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    GERALDTON IS THE BEST PLACE TO INVEST!!!! EVERYONE SHOULD BUY SOMETHING THERE!!!!

    Please note, I do have property in Geraldton and will always talk up this area so my investment increases in value!!! :)))

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    You should always set up your loan structuring sooner rather than later. As to how much to borrow, I prefer to go to the maximum I can afford every time I restructure to save me having to do it again more often. There are also ongoing costs and unexpected costs that arise so more than what you need is always better. You only pay for what you use and it costs the same in application and setup fees to get more upfront as it would cost to get just what you need.

    Offset accounts are always best used against non-deductible debt. I think you have got it.

    Regarding your thinking, it comes down to what you want. If you want to improve your cashflow, negative gearing should be avoided as this reduces cash flow. Other implications such as capital gains should be considered and discussed with your Accountant.

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    How is that a ‘rule’? It is just how the agreement was worded. It is no big deal!

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    In NSW, the only thing a vendor can do when a contract falls over is recover the deposit they are entitled to – 10%.

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    A real estate agent’s commission is not protected by the deposit. It only comes upon settlement. The deposit makes no difference to an agent besides showing who is more serious and ready to go.

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    I prefer houses. Also, I would invest now if it was affordable. Smart investing will improve your cash position and help you pay off your home quicker.

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    There are no benefits of P&I versus interest only that can not be bettered by using an interest only loan with an offset account if you want to reduce debt unless you are very bad with controlling your money. You also have the option of maximising deductibility at any time using IO with offset.

    P&I should certainly never be used on an investment property if there is other non-deductible debt (eg: home loan, car loan, credit cards, personal loan, etc.).

    P&I payments stay the same whereas IO payments can be reduced if you choose.

    I am not a fan of fixing either as flexibility is extremely restricted and costs to change lenders are usually high. Some people do make excellent choices though as Simon has done with his loan.

    If you want to reduce your debt levels, seeing you have such a high salary, I would suggest using an offset account. Direct all income and rent from investment properties and you will make good inroads into reducing debt.

    Regarding tax, using an interest only loan will maximis deductions. Also, make sure you have a good depreciation schedule organised. Talk to the depreciator who posts on this website about that.

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    You only need to live in a property for 6 months to be eligible for the FHOG…

    http://www.fhog.info

    You can borrow 106% in some cases. This depends on your ability to service the debt. If you borrow more than 95%, the interest rate will be considerably higher. If you borrow between 80% and 95%, mortgage insurance will be payable if they accept the property. The mortgage insurers do no like studios and they do not like inner city (especially Sydney) so you are facing a double whammy.

    Going to a lender who does not mortgage insure their loans above 80% will cost you in fees and interest rate.

    Talk to a different mortgage adviser / broker for all the options.

    As for data, try some of the Property Research links at…

    http://www.themortgageadviser.com.au/index_files/essential_links.htm

    I can assure you that there is not much capital growth in studios as I have an office in Darlinghurst and watch these prices all the time. There are some exceptions though.

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    As Steve says, preference is for the interest only loans and NO LOCs. There is no need for them.

    Also, staying with the majors usually provides the most flexibility when considering the fully transactional offset account as they have a lot of branches.

    mitm, regarding an overview, it is pretty simple. Your company or trust buys the property, you ‘rent’ it, your company or trust pays the loan off. You do lose CGT benefits so you should speak with an Accountant first to see if this suits you.

    Regarding Government abolishing something that is legal, I have never known them to act retrospectively so the biggest concern would be losing your CGT benefits.

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    I am totally against using a LOC as everyone here knows. As for a P&I loan on an investment property, this is the most ridiculous advice I have ever heard offered to a borrower by a mortgage broker. I would not be using that broker any time soon.

    Investments should always be interest only as it maximises your options. If you want to reduce debt, don’t pay into the loan but attach an offset account so you still have a lot of flexibility.

    I don’t know why you think it is frustrating and costly to change loans as it is usually a very simple and fairly cheap process (less than $1,000) unless you are tied down with fixed loans or other break costs.

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    I personally think the ship has sailed on Mandurah. I don’t expect too much more growth.

    Clients of mine bought there early last year and had amazing growth. I don’t know how sustainable this is.

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    Originally posted by balihai:

    can I use the offset for deposit and the purchase cost for my next IP?

    If you use your cash in the offset it will not be deductible as you are paying cash and you will increase your non-deducible expense. This is a bad idea.

    As outlined earlier, you should have another split loan for deposits and expenses for deductible expenditure. This loan should also be interest only so you can continue to obtain benefits from your offset account.

    I may want to knock at least half of my homeloan first as I don’t think we can service our next inv loan if we neg gear it.

    You can knock off half the ‘cost’ of your home loan in the same way using an interest only loan with offset account without having to pay it into the loan. You should only use this if you are good with money.

    Why do you want another negatively geared property if you cannot service it? It will only make your cashflow position even worse especially if there is no tenant for a period of time or something else goes wrong.

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    Don, I think you have it back to front. The purchaser is the only one who can seek specific performance on the contract. The vendor gets to keep the deposit (and chase up to 10% of the contract price) and that is it. That is the point behind my argument of securing your entitlement by taking a deposit.

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    Property is not the only investment that is positive cashflow. The time to invest is always now. I think looking at your 2000 purchase that has doubled in less than 5 years should be a good influence.

    Have a look around at your options before settling on property. You might even consider idirectly investing in property through Listed Property Trusts. The return should be higher than the cost of funds you borrow to invest and you can get out pretty quickly should things go wrong.

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    I break down property contracts to include two parts. The first part is the exchange which I believe the deposit is the consideration. The second part is settlement where the obvious happens.

    Another reason why I believe this is because a purchaser can pull out. The loss of deposit only applies in States where the legislation states this. Even WA has this after the standard subject to clauses are surpassed.

    In any case, there may be legislation in place to cover the issue of no deposits as property contracts are the only ones that must be in writing.

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    When you start tossing fixed loans into the mix, it gets more expensive. Your loan contract will tell you how much it costs to get out.

    You do not need to refinance anything to buy additional properties. Even if you have a fixed loan, you can add a split loan if you have additional equity. The new property can stand alone.

    I say stay away fro LOCs and stick to the simple stuff. Interest Only all the way on investment properties and Interest Only with Offset on non-deductible debt. This provides the most flexibility and the cheapest costs.

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    The no deposits has been discussed in another thread. It does not always work.

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    In my opinion, ‘consideration’ in contract law must be something of tangible value. A promise is not something of tangible value. In any case, I consider the ‘promise’ to pay a certain amount as the offer. For example…

    Buyer A OFFERS Seller A 100k with conditions.
    Seller A ACCEPTS Buyer B’s OFFER with those conditions.

    Where is the ‘Consideration’?

    West, No Deposit has been around forever and a day. It comes down to negotiation and what motivates the parties. As I said earlier, I would not waste my time with someone who would not pay a deposit. The only exception may be where the person demonstrated they had a lot of equity available from where the funds were coming and were just illiquid at the current time.

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    Seeing Derek is finally back, I thought I should also bump this thread up.

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    Seeing Derek is finally back, I thought I should bump this thread up.

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