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You have to transfer the funds from your Offset Account. They cannot just take it. An Offset Account is a name given to a transaction account when it is linked to a loan and offsets the interest on that loan when funds are parked in it.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteI am not offended at all. I just like using punctuation!!!
I think the person from the ATO just neglected to define the full scope of borrowing money. What if you borrow from a friend and pay back with interest under an agreement and the funds are for investment? They are not a financial institution but the funds are clearly for business purposes.
Besides purpose of funds, I think enforceability of a loan agreement is important. An Accountant should be able to clear this up quickly.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteYou need to have the facilities to save a file as PDF on your own computer. If you can no longer do it, something on your computer has changed. You can always save it as an email or word document or just leave it in your email folders as is.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteYou should be ‘permanent’ casual. I assume you would be since you were previously full-time.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteYes. It relates to percentage return. The underlying currency is of no consequence.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteWhy would you waste your time on the loan document????
What if the loan is only 10% LVR. Is this what you will offer?
It is none of your business what the owner of the property owes on their home anyway. It cannot possibly help you in any way.
Your time and money would be better spent comparing prices in the area and offer something reasonable.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteA PERFECT reason to have a loan with Offset structure!!!
Moving into your investment property will see your non-deductible debt jump from 150k to 450k!!! OUCH!!!!!
Personally, if I was certain about moving in for a long time, I would sell the house to a company I own and then rent it back at market ‘rent’ and then all loans would be deductible.
The initial stamp duty costs etc would be a small price to pay if you really want to move into that home.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteWhy not have contributions to your newsletter from forum members?????????
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First Home Buyer WebsiteForget the LOC. They are an expensive waste of time unless you want to be ‘fashionable’. You would be better served with a loan with offset regardless of your personal situation!
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First Home Buyer WebsiteI am a little disappointed in the most recent newsletter. It has a lot of very familiar content!
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First Home Buyer WebsiteOriginally posted by JKM:I was like TMA & thought it could be lent onto wife & they are saying NO. Obviously I am doing some more research on this.
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You are not like me!!!
I clearly stated “Just sign the right loan document”.
What this means is that money can be borrowed from anywhere as long as it can be proven to be a loan and the funds were used for investment.
Your example outlines a completely different issue which involves 50% ownership of the property. You will never be able to deduct more than what you own.
The ATO can not refuse the deduction if the husband borrows money and then onlends onto his wife. Onlending money is an investment even if you charge the same rate you are paying. They just require a loan agreement be in place. The wife will then be able to deduct her 50% if the property is an IP.
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First Home Buyer Websitemtairs, whoever told you that is blatantly lying to you. If anything, your lending would be restricted more using multiple asset protection structures as lenders encounter more difficulty recovering their money from you if you default.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteOriginally posted by CoopsT:…is offsetting basically having an amount of money (say $10k) in a separate account but the interest that the $10k would normally earn just comes straight off the loan interest amount instead??
Sort of…
The Offset Account is linked to the loan account. If you had the 10K sitting somewhere else, you might be earning 5.40% on this money. You would also have to pay tax on the income.
If you put the same 10k in the offset attached to your PPOR and your loan was 6.75%, it would be the equivalent of earning 6.75% tax free on this money. If you were in the highest tax bracket, ths is around 13% return before tax.
The second that 10k hits your account, the principal amount is reduced, not the interest. For example, if your loan is 100k, with the 10k in the offset account, it would be calculated as though the loan is 90k (but in reality it is still 100k assuming you are only making interest only payments to the actual loan). Interest on 90k is a lot less than interest on 100k.
You can also take the 10k out at any time and the interest will just be calculated on the 100k again.
hence more of the fortnightly loan payments is principal??This only occurs if you make the same P&I payment every month. I still suggest only making interest only payments as it has the same effect if the money is sitting in your offset account or in the loan. The difference is, once in the loan, you lose some tax benefits later if you change a PPOR into an IP.
What are the major pro’s and cons of this type of setup??As far as I am concerned, there are no cons to using a properly structured loan with offset account. Regarding using a LOC, I will just give you two cons…. HIGHER COST & LESS FLEXIBILITY!
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First Home Buyer WebsiteI love presenting my views to the group. Not every comment adds value but I think if 99 are positive and 1 is negative, why does so much attention get directed at the 1 negative post?
It is a part of life on the net!
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First Home Buyer WebsiteWife can lend to husband. Just sign the right loan document.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteWith any loan, it is ONLY the interest that is deductible. It does not matter where the money comes from or how it is borrowed as long as it is used for business purposes. It is the USE of the funds that make the cost of those funds deductible or not.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteIf your properties are positive cashflow and your equity growth is non-existent, your deposits come from the positive cashflow.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteYour credit history can be incredible but you will not be able to buy a commercial property without 20-30% deposit and sometimes more if a first-timer.
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First Home Buyer WebsiteBest loan structures….
Investment Property – Interest Only Loan with Offset
PPOR Property – Interest Only Loan with OffsetThere is no other choice in my mind for those buying property and wanting flexibility!
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First Home Buyer WebsiteI think some serious stamp duty changes will occur very quickly when the Libs take the Senate. Howard hates it!!!
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