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    Hi Sam,

    As I mentioned I am not really a big fan of one bedrooms, however I personally would look at a smaller block as they tend to – not always  – have a smaller B.C. and I feel a better chance at resale, if you were to sell to an owner occupier I feel they would prefer a smaller block. As for O.T.P. verse second hand, I am a believer in second hand markets have established them selves, O.T.P properties haven't and also lots of headaches involved and Body Corps can be a little misleading, or perhaps a better term is they can require some "adjustment" after all have settled. Having said that i am sure there are plenty out there that would much prefer a new property for whatever reason.

    I would believe it would be very easy to rent a unit in a residential area of owner occupiers and in fact would be preferable, as for 1 bedders grouped together, here on the Gold Coast it can lead to unsavoury situations, but I don't know Perth at all so can't really comment too much.

    Hope that helps.

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    Adrian,  Studio apartments in my neck of the woods generally come under the holiday let which  – for me anyway – is a good enough reason to give a wide berth, however the headache you will have to go through to even try and  get the money for a studio is a another very good reason to keep away. The resale factor down the road when (if you ever do) you want to sell is the third reason, as the prospective buyer will have to go through it all themselves. If you do manage to find a lender and you can get it leased as long term (6 to 12 month leases) then the yields can be rewarding, however bear in mind the capital growth will almost certainly be minimal. I am on the Gold Coast and while now i do not advise any of my clients to buy studios I have been involved with them over the years and i can tell you the tenant (on the gold coast anyway) is likely to be  transient in nature, single and probably spends more time at work and out socialising more than living in it and not being in position of owning very many worldly goods- studios are almost always furnished. This can sometimes lead to tenants not keeping up with rents and being in a position to disappear into the cold dark night without too much trouble.

    One bedrooms are again not what i would advise for everyone, but they are certainly a big improvement on studios, the size factor is a big plus, it will be over the 50sqm and could even have secure parking. Generally speaking a one bedroom can be rented to all walks of life including young professional couples, the elderly (ground floor is good), singles and separated couples looking to find their feet again. A good sized well proportioned one bedder can be a real jewel in a portfolio and i know of  at least one investor who buys nothing but one bedrooms, and as his plan is never to sell than it works for him.

    just bear in mind those big yields you see are generally gross figures so take a bit of time and get all the costs before signing anything. Body corps are horrendous in buildings that have holiday let leases and even if you can do a long term lease you still are liable for the same body corp fees regardless. Also long term lease management fees will should be around 7.5% plus GST as opposed to 13% plus GST plus cleaning fees and more for the holiday let..

    I had some studio apartments located in Cairns offered to me to market for somebody not so long ago ( which i politely declined). They had unreal expectations of what they were worth and after looking up the sales in the complex, in which 16 had been sold in the last six months- again, not a good sign, the average capital gain had been after four years,  less than four percent. I am afraid I do not see that as good investing.

    The main thing is Adrian, which ever way you go do the homework first and try not give in to the urge to buy something purely because it is affordable,

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    julee.d wrote:

    I'm often told that investing in property is a risky business, usually by people who have never owned a property.

    ahhh, how true and also family members, who may or may not be just a tad jealous.

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    Terry is absolutlely right, I tend to direct my clients away from them. Particulalrly in my neck of the woods, very hard to sell and if you are looking at a big block, my experience has shown me there are generally a lot on the market at the same time. But if you are going to get the 50sqm or under you would be well advised to get a one bedroom, not a studio.

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    you really need to state the area you are looking at, my suggestion is have a look at some of the investor magazines, plenty of BA advertise in those. Although not a specific recommendation, a good start.

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    Thanks Jas,

    Small operation and low overheads keeps me floating and i do have a lot of return clients which hepls immensely. By all means give me a call if only for some guidance.

    Keiko,

    it's amazing how right you are, I have slow periods when you can't give a property away, then one goes and itseems to go crazy again. Lets hope we catch up on the same path one day, going the same direction.

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    [Hi John,
    'not always as cut and dry as flick and make some quick bucks. You need to go into that totally aware of costs etc. if you don't flick them quickly holding costs could easily eat any all or more of the profits to be made. Buyers are not always that easy to find. Don't wish to be negative but I have seen some disasters occur from people who have not thought out all scenarios.

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    Hey Jas,

    Staying positive is definately the right way to go. I like your thinking!! lol.

    Thanks for your input.

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    Hi Sara and Singer,

    Thanks for the replies. As the main jist of the topic was the effect of media, it just shows two very different views. Both of you have also made excellent comments on the state of affairs in RE. Although i would like to point out to Singer, it is not only RE agents  that have opinons leaning towards the beating up of facts by the media, far from it. I guess though in my industry you have to maintain positivity.

    Sara you are absolutley right the government and banks (begrudgingly perhaps) are holding up the market and are obviously doing so with the hope of an economic turn around and a return to an economy of days gone by. Fingers Crossed.

    SInger, I am one of these people that don't believe the USA market can be directly comparable, the banking institutions over there were in a terrible mess where as the Australian banks were/are still reasonably strong in comparison. The one thing I totally agee on is who does  these facts and figures regarding the housing statistics that are reported on a regular basis, it seems experts are plentiful but few seem to agree with each other, it's like certain magazines and subscription services have to come up with Hot Spots each month, and the ones from the month before disappear of the radar. Just gathering figures off RP Data dosent strike me as real research. Good luck with your search for answers, I am sure i dont have to tell you be careful around vendor financing, what ever your end result is I really hope it works out for you.

    However, as some of my clients were quoting the press as the reason for being a bit gunshy, i really just wanted to gauge other peoples thoughts on the topic and don't want to turn this post into pro's and con's of buying into this market, so i do appreciate both of you sharing your opinions.

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    dbt,

    while your right, the first home owner grant has kept that market bouyant, I would not say it has really forced prices up too much. There are still plenty of Developers and vendors looking to sell. Doom and Gloom isn't always a bad time to buy either. Make offers, they can only say no – and heres a tip, even if the salepeople tell you the vendors won't budge, chances are they will. Infrastructure and local gov. activity is a great way to gauge a place but is not the be all and end all either, a bargain is a bargain is a bargain and that can be anywhere. I am not saying cheap is good, but a bargain is good. if that makes sense. Homework is the key.

    I read a post a few minutes ago and some one mentioned it is a looonnnggg time coming for price increases, while i am sure he was a little bit tongue in cheek and commenting in general on the current "crisis", it was not entirely accurate, depending (of course) on where you are, prices in some areas have not dropped much , if any at all. and some places have seen prices still going up – snails pace granted but still heading north. Certainly Brisbane is a strong market to come. Good Luck and remember do your homework.

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    oh , okay it does it automatically, boy is my face red. lol. if you only knew how long is was trying to find out how to do it.

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    Thanks richard.

    Okay I give up… I have tried to make my signature "live"with my web addrsss and email address but see how to do it. Can some one lend a helping hand.

    The website is basically for information, no bells and whistles i am afraid, but have a look. I will be adding a half dozen more proeprties tonight and tomorrow.

    Thanks in advance for any help with my signature.

    Cheers

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    Thanks everyone for the warm welcome, sorry to take so long to reply, but I have been away for easter and my wife bans me from anything more than checking work emails when with the family.

    I will get  my signature sorted out today and look forward to joining the community and hopefully being of some help to the folks on here.

    Regards

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