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    Hey Pocketscience

    You look familiar, where have i seen you before ??

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    Negative Gearing Under Attack

    Tax concessions for property investors – including negative gearing and
    the concessional capital gains rate – are distorting the housing market
    and should be reviewed, according to the Productivity Commission’s
    review of home ownership.
    The investigation into barriers to first-home ownership will also
    increase pressure on state governments to follow New South Wales’ lead and
    effectively abolish stamp duty for first-home buyers. Rejecting the
    states’ arguments that stamp duty does not act as a barrier to home
    ownership, the Commission has indicated that increasing the deposit first-home
    buyers must save introduces another hurdle.
    Both major parties are reluctant to consider changes because of fears
    that it could increase rents and discourage investors. Negative gearing
    was last tampered with by the Hawke government in 1985, which sent the
    supply of rental property plummeting. Two years later treasurer Paul
    Keating was forced into reversing that decision when rents went through
    the roof.
    According to new financial modelling by Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu,
    removing the tax benefit from property investments will increase rents by as
    much as 80 per cent, putting a greater burden on public housing and
    making it harder to save that first home deposit for those still in the
    private rental market.
    The commission has toughened its stance, arguing that current tax
    breaks to investors in property and trusts are overly generous, compared
    with other investments such as shares. At present, when an investor sells
    a property, capital gains tax applies only on half the profits.
    The submission from Professor Cameron Rider of Melbourne University’s
    Law School argued for a change to the tax treatment.
    “With the capital gains tax discount you have an absolute certainty
    that one half of your gain will be tax-free. People have seen the
    combination of negative gearing, depreciation and capital gains tax discount
    can be marketed as a residential investment product to produce a
    significant tax advantage.”
    Mr Costello defended the concessional rate of capital gains tax, saying
    that the objective was to encourage people to put money into
    investments and save for the long term. He has also ruled out abolishing negative
    gearing, despite the Reserve Bank’s warnings that “further examination”
    is required of the laws that allow investors to reduce their tax by
    writing off the costs of an investment property.
    Concern has centred on the ability of some investors to purchase
    multiple loss-making properties under the current negative gearing tax laws,
    with some analysts calling for a limit to be placed on the use of
    negative gearing.
    However, Housing Industry Association chief economist Simon Tennent
    warned that further government interventions in an already cooling
    property market could not have come at a worse time.
    “To be trying to put out the flames of the inner-city investment unit
    market at the expense of mum and dad investors is just dangerous,” he
    said.
    Macquarie Bank economist Brian Redican lays much more of the blame for
    spiralling house and apartment prices on the October 1999 capital gains
    tax concessions, which virtually halved the impost placed on investors.
    There is no coincidence that the biggest surge in investor borrowing
    for housing has occurred since capital gains tax was reduced, says
    Redican.
    However Redican makes the point that negative gearing is simply not as
    valuable in the low interest-rate environment we now live in. Investors
    adopting a negative-gearing strategy normally borrow as much as
    possible against their rental property. The higher the interest rate they pay,
    the bigger the deduction. A property is negatively geared if the cost
    of owning it, including interest on borrowings, is greater than the
    rental income it produces. The owner can claim a deduction for the
    shortfall against other income.
    On the flip side, capital growth has been very strong for the past few
    years, says Redican, making the halving of CGT an attractive incentive
    for investors. Another major driver, he says, is that the increasing
    proportion of households on the top marginal tax rate has meant more
    people have been exploring tax offsets.
    The Macquarie Research Economics study found that negatively gearing a
    property was not attractive unless it also had good capital growth
    potential. It found that even if negative gearing was scrapped, borrowing
    to invest would still be attractive as long as the property was expected
    to deliver strong capital gains.
    In another blow to property investors in a cooling market, the
    Australian Taxation Office recently announced a review from July 1 of
    depreciation rules on residential investment, which allow a building’s fittings
    to be claimed as a loss for negative-gearing purposes.

    Courtesy of Noel Whittakers Newsletter- a great source of Information

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    It’s a Hard Life Milly [biggrin]

    All the Best..[thumbsupanim]

    Maybe speak to some of the Brokers on this site re: your financial structure..

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    PG

    I had a look ..no new pictures [glum2]

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    The interest on your IP is Tax deductible also, unlike your PPOR..

    What are you looking at Achieving from investing in Property, remember, many investors ‘lose’ on property for tax benefits and hope to make up this shortfall with CG ( – Gearing )

    However, you may source IP’s achieving positive cash flow of 8-11%+..look at Westan and Others..

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    Agree in principle with paying off your + geared IP’s faster, however the interest on my PPOR is not tax deductible, so i’m reducing my non-deductible debt ASAP, meanwhile building Equity in the property..

    Negative gearing is part of my strategy, i for one acknowledge the CG prospects with it, however when it becomes + geared.. i wont be selling it as it’s lost its tax benefits..so achieving a ‘balanced portfolio’ is my goal..

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    There’s a company in WA that helps you through the process, they have papers, signs etc etc, potentially could save yourself $6-7000 +

    Can’t remember the name, though i can place the building[angry2] get back to you…

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    Congrats Dean..Midland has potential, and the Council there are “busting a Gut’ to get some solid business happening agian and harrasing the Government..

    Still some cheap IP’s here..

    And LOTS happening up North of WA[biggrin]

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    Agree..

    look at Discharge fee’s, ability to make extra repayments, extra’s etc and ascertain if it truely is the ‘better deal’..do the maths

    If alls good then[thumbsupanim]

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    It’s always been full since i’ve known it..

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    Elvis..[karate]

    Get in Contact with Westan from this site, he’s currently in NZ and acting as a ‘spotter’ for people, he’s a wealth of info..

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    fjficm..

    Why..?

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    shares my dream..’most’ people on this forum, and a great place to *bounce* ideas around

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    Dean, i believe you’d have to have lived there 6months at least ( anyone ?) to prove PPOR status, if this is the case i presume you could delay settlement.

    If you sell…what would you then do ?

    Also, work out your exit costs from your loan , buying and selling costs etc to work out the ‘true’ end figure.

    If you bought the place as an investment to make money, then i’d say it’s achieved that goal, as for your paranoa, why not speak to some local real estate agents and see what’s happening in your suburb..

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    fjficm

    I’d suggest talking to someone like Melbear, who has a good grasp of Trust structures.

    My understanding is that with your current properties, you’d have to essentially ‘sell’ them to your trust, incurring hefty Stamp Duty on this transferall.

    The ATO also is supposedly looking at Trust structures set up for purely reasons of Tax avoidance, however if you’ve set it up for the benefit of your family etc i think you standa better than even chance.

    Someone sueing you i’m led to believe, can still chase your assets in the Trust structure if they are there solely for Asset protection, think having several Family members, children etc would minimize this…

    Please note- I don’t have a Trust structure set up ( have thought about it, spoke to my accountant, approx $800 to set up )My thoughts are based on what i’ve read and interepreted..[exhappy]

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    No Pill in mine.. i looked twice !![angry2]

    Off to Dymocks 2mw to ‘sort’ through the books..I’ll get one of those little suckers yet !!!

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    A lot happening in Darwin as well with the Government spending money on the Port area, think someone on this site mentioned the hospital ?

    The real estate boom over the last 2 years has pushed prices up everywhere, and yes E-States buyers ( and others ) are looking further afield for IP’s, As your probally aware Darwin has Seasonal population movements too, Investors possibly looking at the value for money in NT’s City

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    Agree with the fact many workers travel from Bunbury or Australind..

    Kemerton was the town of 200 rentals required, haven’t looked at the issue though, have you ?

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    Paula

    Have PM you

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    CHAN$

    Still in School has thrown me there also, just when i thought i was getting a grasp of his ‘Offset principles’..[confused2] Doh..!

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