25 000 people seems to be a fair size town to me considering others on this forum have invested in towns from 9 000 to even 3 500 !
Granted the Growth is not going to be there, but do you want Growth ? income ? or low risk ? pick any 2.
Smaller towns are risky, but consider all the variables such as what is rental demand like in the town, population growth, industry etc.. you may not get huge growth but get reasonable income stream as for selling..Do some value-adding to the property and the ‘forumites’ are always looking for + geared IPs []
Re: Supplements from NZ, you should be able to order them from a NZ distributor without to much hassle, especially anything under $250.00. believe Australia and NZ have an agreement even though products that can be found in NZ take a ‘lot’ longer to eventually be available in Australia.
Friend of mine get’s “Twinlab” supplements from NZ not widely available in Australia
Itsamoorey :
“Body-for-life” and the “success journal” both good buy’s, see there’s now a “Eating for life” book out by Bill Phillips and EAS ( Bill Phillips is a “marketing Guru” in his field).. try doing H.I.I.T cardio – “kills”[xx(]
Everyone else
Sorry to get off track here !!
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
Wouldn’t your rent from the IP then add to ‘your’ income therby effecting a wage for you, especially on a + geared IP !
Tax time comes and you have to declare this income, don’t “blow” the low-rent situation you’re in now, by trying to duck and weave the Housing people you deal with and the tax man. ( over here you’d go on the DOLA register as being the property owner!)
Sorry Department of Land Administration a Government organisation.
You’re doing a great Job with your saving’s i’d definetly be getting proffessional advice, preferably on a referal from someone you know,, as there’s dodgy people out there giving advice.
And remember many a family fued has started over money.. be careful putting assets in a relatives name to save some $ and avoid the Taxman.
In saying that though i wish you all the best, just be careful, caveat emptor
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
Used wisely they are a bonus! We as others have posted pay “no interest” as we operate with a LOC loan and payment of the card comes automaticly out of our account on the due date.
we do not use the CC of our “loans” bank and we redeem our points for Myers vouchers which comes in handy at christmas time [] and we get the presents for the family effectively for free !
Very usefull when travelling or in an emergency and there’s many ways to use them wisely..
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
David Femia, thanks for that, it’s always good to get a referal from someone who has used that particular person, not just someone who knows ‘of’ that particular person, so again thank you, i’ve been thinking about changing accountants to someone who has an interest in my particular strategy ( property investing)
Scott– the only time we got to see the Stella Marris girls where at church or socials!! damn, does it always seem that things get better when you leave school ??
Hamster– St Pats used to have the “old boys” club also used to do 10yr reunnions etc i also suggest contacting them, i’ve also logged onto schoolfriends.com as have ‘many many’ other st Pats students from over the years, do yourself a favour and check it out
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
Would love to recieve your spreadsheet to evaluate, thanks []
Please e-mail to barrytspencer “at” yahoo.com.au
Thanks also for the loan repayment figures, don’t know whats wrong with the computer re; calculator graphs such as westpac, realestate.com… i’ll have to search out better calculators or one’s without a graph!
Annaw2
His property is let by the on-site managers
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
you’d have to be ‘lucky’ to get that loan, as you say in your post “some people were able to obtain 105% home loans to cover all the costs of buying a new HOME“
With the pest control and building inspections, you’d be charged a flat fee for the lot and here is where you negotiate !! ensure you use quality assured companies or someone you’ve previously used.
I’d be speaking with mortgage brokers if i were you to see where you stand, incorporate the rental income as much as permissable and i’d be thinking your whole salary would be in there also..
To loan money of someone you have to ‘prove’ it’s a good deal for them too !!
Hope all works out for you
All the best
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
In and out of the office throughout the night, log on at various times and catch up with the forum- it’s a great place to learn, with some of the people here passing on a ‘wealth’ of knowledge, essentially electronic brainstorming!
I’ve been investing on and off since about 1991, regretting selling the IP’s i’ve had throughout the years looking at thier value now ! currently though we have 2 IP’s and a PPOR in Perth ( Yes- live in Perth )
Currently getting properties re-valued and speaking to my mortgage broker on friday to assess financial situation before making a concerted move again. lately have been building Equity in PPOR by value adding ( renovations with us doing the work – saves cash $ builds equity $)
The folks over East are just like us “looking everywhere” – beleive it or not they’re looking here too, we have a few spots of interest. as has been said here before the best deals are not found on the net..
“Goldwing” is the motorbike… Redwing goes back to Childhood stuff and always a usefull tag that doesn’t too often get copied..
Used to Go to St Pat’s in Geraldton many moons ago.
The Perth investment group care of [email protected] …haven’t heard or seen anything of them for a while ( are you out there ?)
Dolf de Roos was recently in Perth but i decided not to attend, most in the forum suggested and recommended ‘buy’ the book though !
Geraldton has been discussed on this forum at times, though as with most things ‘Local knowledge’ is King, so you’re in front there. geraldton has had a – population growth and some socio-economic problems in some areas, however on that note ” a good deal $ wise is a good deal “
Redwing
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
was reading “an interesting finding from macquarie bank is that more and more under 30’s are using Margin Lending to build investment portfolios before moving into areas like property”
Leveraging and getting into both markets !! []
On a side note
How does
saving just $3 a day and investing it sensibly over a working life, you’ll wind up with over a million dollar$– work ??
Just quickly $3 x 365 days in the year = $1’095
$1’095 x 40 working years = $43 800
Granted this is at a flate rate, but ‘what’ rate would you have to be achieving to compound the interest and investment Dollars to get $1000 000.00
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
“i hear what you say” about prompting accountants, over the years i’ve said to several accountants ” look so and so who i work with claims this and this or is doing such and such, can i also claim or do that”? to be told “yes”, it’s not their fault though as i suppose they are inundated with changes to tax etc all the time, so as you said an accountant who is also an ‘avid’ property investor would be a great find !!
David Femia has mentioned ‘Bert’ ? may be interesting to chase up.. a good accountants worth his weight in gold.
david.. i presume you have dealings with him ??
REDWING
barrytspencer “AT” yahoo.com.au
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
$80 p/wk for cleaners x 52 = $ 4160.00
$1500 p 1/4 management fees x 4 = $ 6000.00
$4’160+ $6’000
= $10’160
$22’000 per year profit – $10’160
= $11’840
Resulting in about $227.69 p/wk cash coming in.
Thats assuming all goes well, can’t seem to bring up any “mortgage calculator” graphs on this computer so don’t know what the repayments would be on a $270 K Loan ?
There’s better deals out there and i believe with these type of things management choose the cleaners, usually themselves ( the caretakers) and all repairs and maintainence are handled by the management for which top dollar is paid and they sometimes get a fee of the contractor for using him.
Was interesting to look at and a nice place.. but not a good investment.
As BLOWIE said in another post there may be stipulations that you have to get new carpet every five years or re-paint etc also what happens if the tenants the management put’s in place trash the place etc, use a dodgy credit card or such, as generally it’s short term stays.. just had a horrible thought “schoolies week” [}][]
REDWING
“The man that thinks at 5o as he did when he was 20 has wasted 30 years of his life”
Anita Bell has made a fortune in her books promoting just this.. you know the “how to pay your loan off in 5 years – by someone who did it in three” author
The early years of your mortgage payments can make the biggest difference, i.e on a loan of $120 000 at 7% over 25yrs, if you made just a one-off extra payment of $1000 in the first year, you would save around $4300 in interest and cut off six months from the loan.
if you made the same payment in the fifth year you would only reduce the term by 4 months and cut around $3000 from the interest bill.
As another thought, Quality property supposedly ‘doubles’ in value every 10 years or so, that means if you buy a property valued at $100 000 today and paid IO, you will have Equity of $100 000 in ten years or more.If you have ten houses well.. you have $1000 000. ‘If’ all goes well, as some properties may ‘jump’ in price and others remain stable for many years untill the next boom- this is just an example of figures