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ANOTHER pointless and belittling post Phil.
BTW, did you ask repetitive newbie type questions when you started out on the road to your “incredible wealth†or where you just born with unlimited knowledge?
Hi Natasha,
Check potential yields on this set-up. Sometimes the vendor has a slightly higher price on this arrangement. Tenants could possibly shy away from this (potential privacy issues, fighting tenants etc) and the only way to attract them is to lower the rent! Worst case you might have a situation where the yield equals a standard house in the area, so why bother………..let your calculator decide this one!
Ready to leap into the unknown? Make sure you know the “unknown†before you leap anywhere!!
I would seriously consider buying again once I saw prices starting to trend up which won’t be for a number of years yet in most areas.
In the meantime keep reading guys and improve that “unknown†bit.
Hi mermaids,
I’ve been property investing since the mid 80’s and you only get to enjoy PI 2 years out of about 10 (the boom phase). The rest of the time is full of repair costs, vacancies, rent defaulting, damage, overheads, crappy PM’s, etc, etc, etc.
Sometimes you should look at the “smart guys†and observe what they do. The smart guys once used to be buy and holders!! They buy into the market before a major rise in prices and sell once they’ve got their capital gain….. In the market and back out again with their GC’s in hand ready possibly for the next big thing or for a bit of a personal treat (holidays, car, new house etc).
I‘m a buy and holder and you certainly have to have the right temperament for this game.
Hi Jess,
Check with a few panel beaters as they deal with them everyday. Tight insurance companies usually “force†the panel beater to do a lower standard of work just to score the job.
I have found AAMI to be a good compromise between quality repairs and reasonable premiums. AAMI will also allow you to increase your excess and lower your premium if you want.
Hi JULES1,
When the RE market’s not so red hot as it’s been in the last few years this issue may come back to haunt you. Buyers become very fussy when the market cools. If the new buyers get an inspection done repair work will be noted and they could try to negotiate a lower price or just walk away.
IMHO, repaired termite damage can be just as bad as active termite damage in the eyes of a buyer!!!
If you’re still interested revise your offer accordingly.
Hasn’t Rocky already gone up considerably over the last year or so? Check the SS forum there’s a lengthy post about Rocky (lots of great info too).
The vendor is probably selling to grab the CG’s for something better. This deal could leave you with a property that will stagnate in value for years without providing an income.
Do your DD…….Hi glenirish,
What you have in place wont save you in the event of your defacto claiming non-financial contributions in the event of a break-up………
Purchasing a property between you should just be done as tenants in common to spell out the desired % you wish to hold.
With solicitors (and tradies etc) you pay for what you get.
Good Luck
Hi Thames,
Just had my domestic relationship agreement finalised about 2 months ago…….lucky you!
If you can keep your financial affairs seperate to you GF you dont need a DR agreement although, she can claim from you non financial contributions to the relationship. Non finanacial contributions are, for eg, her forgoing a career to raise your children from a previous relationship. A court would seek to have her compensated for that.
Your DR agreement can also become your pre nup agreement if you so desire. Alternatively it can become redundant at the time of your marriage if that’s what you want.
Dont bother trying to do it yourself as there are set rules to enforce this agreement and if they are not followed to the letter the agreement might be set aside at a later date.
My solicitor took about 3-4 hours to do the agreement which finally cost me a touch over $1000. This also includes valuable advice that is probably unique to your situation It’s a small price to pay to know it’s been done properly.Good Luck
Hi Michael,
My experience with kids is that once the first bub comes along the maternal instinct kicks in big time. Then number 2 comes along….[blink]
I had a lot of trouble getting my “career†wife back to work!!!See you on the beach at North Narra some time. (BTW imagine what that caravan parks worth!!!!)
I remember pre boom Tasmania had houses perpetually for sale from the last boom! (some 10 years!)……………Then along came the investor………..
You can see why remote some vendors resort to dirty tricks to move ‘em because out of a boom he might be holding it for a mighty long time.
Stick to the EAST side of Pittwater Road and you’re laughing.
Hi Michael,
In my view the CG’s at the northern beaches has been way too hot over the last few years. I put it down to the baby boomer phenomenon. Well off north shore people are selling up and buying units/ townhouses down there for cash mainly (with a little bit left over to “party†with). These people are less affected by interest rate movement so talk of interest rises are less of a concern to them ……….more demand.
If you owned a freestanding house there you were sitting on a goldmine, as the developers would offer you just about anything to secure it. The suburbs median sale price was severely distorted too as developers would pay double the street value to get stock to develop! If you were doing your usual DD this suburb would look incredibly good hence even more demand ensued. Unfortunately where there is huge demand the developers soon create an oversupply. This is what’s happening now. Nothing like oversupply to curtail and further CG’s.
Although, don’t get me wrong, I still believe in the Northern Beaches ……….long term.Real case of my brother will show you the price volatility (and CG’s) of this suburb:
House purchased 1992 (fibro dump on 1000sq m) for $212k
Best developer offer late 2003 2.3 mil
Today approx $950k and probably take a lot of time to shift!
A few more:
Brothers IP at Sydney’s Northern Beaches. Late last year could get approx 1.3 mil (based on sales in the area) today agent reckons “high 900’sâ€.
Same brother same area has a property pursued heavily by developers. Last offer 2.3 mil. Market’s changed and the developers have lost interest. Street value today is $950k (if his lucky).First Mistake, don’t believe the agent when he tells you that it will be worth high 300’s when its finished. Things are pretty lean for agents ATM and he’s probably looking for his commission above your concerns! See what refurbished places like this actually sell for. Note carefully what the market is doing in this area. Is it stagnating or worse is it falling? You must do your own investigations to get the truth.
Renovating in a rising market is easy. You should make a profit. I know of one forumite (on another forum) that painted the front of his IP, put up a picket fence and made $85k in 12 months. He honestly believed his “renovation†attributed to this. Unlikely, in fact the area was on an upward swing with prices, that’s what gave him the CG’s.
I have an old acquaintance who used to renovate a lot (many years ago, now retired) and he reckons in a flat market renovations get you your money back plus 10% “hassle factorâ€.
Have you renovated before? It’s NOTHING like the shows on telly in fact its bloody hard work if you do a lot of it yourself and if you don’t you’ll make your tradesmen rich.And what DD said.
Good Luck
Marc1,
Your last post was absolutely spot on!
I have been paying land tax on my IP’s since 1987 and its a tax that isn’t easy to pass onto tenants. Although, over time, landloards do raise the rent to cope.
Hi muppet,
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…. there’s fear of further price softening in those areas…….I know every successful investor is supposed to go against the herd to make the “real bucks” but sometimes the herd can be right!!
IMHO I don’t know if owning property in Hunters Hill is the answer either. Two things that come to mind is if the property sits on a substantial block land tax would kill you and your potential pool of tenants is considerably smaller.
I’ve noticed in the past that when the economy is going bad these high ticket properties become difficult to rent because the corporate high flyer who rented it has now downsized because he’s been retrenched, etc. Sometimes these properties can rent for not a whole lot more than an average house in the suburbs.
I like the Steve Navra principle: Buy in suburbs which have a median price that equals the capital city median plus 25-30%. This will keep you out of crappy suburbs with crappy tenants but not expose you to the expensive properties that demand the high rentals.
So what’s your answer Phil?
Before you respond could you possibly run spell check and grammar check over your reply so it appears reasonably credible?