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Attended a Breakfast Seminar last week ran by Kendalls (4th largest Accounting firm in Qld) and the offset question was raised amongst other..
Their attitude was as long as the funds were drawn down and intended for investment and could clearly be seen to be used for investment they could be parked with non investment funds short term and certainly would not be contaminated.
I cannot remember the details of the case but the circumstances were different and hence the interest deduction was disallowed.
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Not unless you use the $160K as deposit to be the business and borrow the balance.
Alternatively ask the vendor if he will offer terms on the purchase.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
I think the issue is more with the Vendor than you as the purchaser.
As a buyer you have the same right as the seller when it comes to Settlement and if they cannot produce the Title Deed then you can look to sue for Specific Performance.
Tell them you will be charging a default interest rate as per the Terms fo the Contract. (In most States the default rate is shown on the purchase contract or if not the Standard Law Society Rate applies). Do not settle without a Title and seek compensation for your incoenience or loss.
I cannot believe your Solicitor os not putting them on notice on this one.
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Hi Laurie
Firstly welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your stay with us.
Doesnt sound to me like your Accountant is particularly switched on when it comes to property investment and wealth creation.
I am not aware of the location of the property in Brisbane but the value certainly isn't falling and i fail to see why you would sell it to buy a PPOR and then gear off the PPOR to buy more IP's.
If you wish to buy your own home and retain the IP then why would you not sell the IP to a Trust structure, borrow the full 100% of the market value and use the net realised amount to use as deposit for the PPOR.
This enables you to reduce the non deductible debt and increase your deductible debt.
Whilst stamp duty would be payable on the Transfer here in Qld it is certainly worth consideration.
If you are happy rent in the ACT then why not merely use the equity in the IP to boy more IP's and carry on renting.
Only consider would be the structure of the loan as from what i can work out your current loan appears to be an principal & interest loan which is probably not a prudent course of action.
If your mortgage broker is experienced with investment property structures then he should be able to suggest a few ways to set up your new purchase. Drop us an email if you have any further questions.
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I own a couple of blocks of unit similar to the one you mention here in Brissie and they provide an excellent return and good long term CG and strata prospects.
Yes if the block is on 1 Title you will be looking at a Commercial Loan rather than a standard residential loan but the rate of interest isnt that much higher.
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Hi Dave
Wrong Hemisphere here we spell bargin with an "a".
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Hybrid
From a serviceability perspective certainly you will be able to borrow more with some lenders if your purchase an IP with deductible debt over a PPOR with non deductible debt as they add back the negative gearing claim to your net taxable income.
In saying this remember that if you are paying rent this will be treated as a liability and will reduce the amount you can borrow.
Moral of the post is give all of the information to your mortgage broker and let him play with the numbers for you as the amount you can borrow from 1 lender to another variables considerably.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Yes a lot of them especially now just understand.
It is easier to say NO than listen.
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Hate to say Hybrid very unlikely CBA will accept that as they just dont like 3rd part y loans
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi Jas
Unfortunately Yes they can set the Terms and Conditions.
Have a look in the original letter of offer and see if there is a charge for switching to IO. If not then I would guess it is not an option under that Wizard loan.
Could well be that for the package of RMBS they were not accepting IO loans.
Regretfully the non Bank lenders are really feeling the pinch and therefore refinancing could certainly prove a cheaper option in the long run.
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Not so lucky
That says a lot if it is CBA. They are never the easiest to deal with in situations like that.
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Hi Fujitsu
Firstly welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time with.
This day and age you dont have to sit down with your mortgage broker as you can deal through email and online and in fact many of my deals are done for clients througout Australia who i have never actually me.
With regards to brokers i guess it all depends on what you are after. If you want a discount job then sure go to someone like Refund but dont expect much. If you owned a new mercedez car would you take it to the dealer or some back street cash only garage.
What i am getting at is there is often more to the loan than merely a quick fix low interest style product. Most clients use a Broker as they are lokming for a longer term relationship and for someone to structure the loan correctly so that they can buy additional properties in the future whether they be IP's or another PPOR.
Personally i am not a great lover of the CBA/Colonial deal as the MISA offset is not a real offset in the full terms of the word and think there are a couple of better options.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Yes you are missing something SG.
The offset account is your savings account and has no bearing whatsover as far as the ATO are concerned.
You an have all types of income and expenditure going into this account and it makes no difference.Their is no actual interest being paid to you so there is nothing to declare on your Tax return.
You certainly wouldn't have 2 offset accounts one on your PPOR loan and 1 on your IP loan when you still have non dedcutible debt.Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
HI SG
Yes Qu makes sense and Yes you can.
I would probably prefer to see the LOC funds drawn down into the offset account and the monthly interest come out from there.Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi SG
No never get tired ask as many questions as you like.
Yes depending on who your lender is there would be no problem in a loan of that size.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi SG
No never get tired ask as many questions as you like.
Yes depending on who your lender is there would be no problem in a loan of that size.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi gibbo
Oh dont worry i did get some lovely offensive emails after i posted my 2 cents worth but no pack yet.
Glad to see Mel you saw the light and saved your self a cool $40K.
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SG
All about right this time
If you are suggesting turning the LOC (A) to a P&I loan linked to the offset could you explain your thinking here as i cannot see why i would do this. Don't think i would get a P& I loan for $25,000 – Yes i would suggest this.
To my understanding $85000 is the amount that i can claim interest on i cannot increase this – CorrectRichard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
It used to.
Maybe i should become a Moderator….
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi Again SG
Sorry i think i might have misread a earlier reply.
I was under the impression that the LOC for your personal purposes was not drawn at all. If this is not the case the convert this to a P & I loan and link the offset account to this loan and not your IO loan on the same property.
Make sure that the loan for personal purposes is totally separate to the loan for your shares.
Have ALL of your income going into the offset account liked to the separate P & I loan which you used for personal purposes.
Then each month have the interest for the other loans coming from the offset account.If this is still not making sense shoot me a quick email and we can take it off forum.
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