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    Hi Oz

    Sorry to hear about your position with the Ex. Never been there but cant imagine it is pretty.

    If the existing property is in your name and you are servicing the loan why not refinance and use the equity to pull out a deposit for your new home.

    Then take a new standalone loan against the new property.

    Structured correctly and subject to equity you would be able to minimise your costs as well as finding something that you can call yours rather than renting. 

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    Terry W from the forum is based in Sydney and I am sure he can assist you admirably.

    If you want to post any general questions then we can all provide an opinion on structure.

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    Hi Marsmac

    Firstly welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time with us here.

    Yes what was obviously a good idea initially sounds like a real mess now given the changing circumstances of the parties involved.

    Tell me where your parents actually on Title or did they merely provide their security as Guarantee.
    If they are on Title and you wish to move forward then YES you will need to transfer the Title into your name.

    Remember any income they receive may effect their Pension entitlement anyway so might be an idea to do so.

    Other issue you may have is that lenders generally are tightening up across the board so refinance the deals maybe harder than initially thought especially the development deals.

    Easiest thing is to get your mortgage broker to have a general look and see what he suggests.

    Once you have cleaned up the deals then moving forward should cause you less issues in the future.

    Still a couple of lending options left for clients wanting cash out when they refinance.

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    This is the sort of information your mortgage broker should be providing especially if he is Licensed to provide you with investment advice.

    Certainly wouldnt be taking the SGB special due to the post year rates and the associated costs.

    I would be taking an IO loan from day 1 irrespective of whether the property is a PPOR or IP as you want maximum flexibility and also increase the interest savings.

    Also look at linking an offset account to the loan. Remember unless your MB is a Licensed Financial Planner he cannot discuss an offset account with and the penalties for doing so are quiet high. 

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    Hi Devo

    Yes you will still be elligble for the Grant as long as you occupy the property for 6 months within the first 12 months after settlement.

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    Skuz

    No problems in the property being an investment property iniitally and you then moving in within the required timeframe and collecting the FHOG.

    Depending on the State you may find that you wont get the exemption on the stamp duty however so that maybe a consideration.

    Also make sure your mortgage broker structures the loan correctly from day 1 as otherwise the flexibility and interest savings maybe lost for good.

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    Yes the Goverment might give you the Grant but might find it harder than you expect to obtain finance as lenders dont like Owner Builders especially at the higher LVR levels.

    Also mortgage insurers dont like them either so that will limit your borrowing.

    Might want to get a contract builder to build it for you.

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    Think you might find the non conforming lender is almost a thing of the past as most have packed up shop and gone back to the UK.

    Would need further information before I could ascertain whether the deal could be done.

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    Just your income and expenditure that would be a start.

    He could merely do a 2nd mortgage carry back.

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    Hi there

    Yes there is no issues in doing what you want to achieve but i think SGB are one of the more expensive lenders when it comes to split loans like their Portfolio rate loan.

    You can do a lot better than the Dragon as under their Professional package it is a condition of the letter of offer that all loans are cross collateralised…. Not good.

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    More information would be required before answering that one.

    As Terry mentioned both mortgage insurers have dipped out of the Lodoc refinance market.

    How much are you looking to fund over and above the current balance ?

    St George policy on Cash Out Lodoc is

    The Low Doc Home Loan is NOT AVAILABLE for:

    • Relocation loan
    • Strata title with extended settlement period
    • Building Loans – Owner Builders
    • PAYG applicants (except where there are joint self-employed and fully verified PAYG applicants.
    • Company borrowers
    • Trusts
    • Cash outs >$10,000 (cash out limited to refinancing expenses)

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    oh sorry maybe i misread the post.

    Definately look to refinance it again especially when you have a non deductible debt.

    Maybe time to review the rate and features to see if you could better.

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    Who has said that your borrowing capacity is only $50,000 ?

    Each lender has its own serviceability criteria and there is a massive difference between the highest and the lowest lender in terms of serviceability.

    Is your Cousin able to offer you any Vendor Finance to cover your deposit and acqusition costs ?

    If you can cover these then anything is possible.

    Further information is of course required to give you an assessment.

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    A lot of brokers would have no idea about how to do a multi unit complex.

    As Terry mentioned doing it lodoc maybe a thing of the past due to the recent mortgage insurance restrictions.

    In saying that with the equity you have in the property there are a couple of lenders who would do the deal as is but unfortunately the Dragon is not one of those.

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    Just make sure he really is a Licensed Real Estate as it would be unusual for the agent to be Licensed in both Victoria and Qld.

    Are you sure he is not from a marketing firm offering you these areas where both properties are brand new and the amount of kick back commission he would receive from the developer is difficult to assess.

    Normally what happens is that you end up paying over the odds for the property.

    Just get your mortgage broker to undertake a valuation of the property prior to go to contract.

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    Personally i am believer of the Never Sell brigade so would not be selling an IP and paying CGT just to pay down a small non deductible debt.

    If you pay down the loan probably the first thing you will do is then use as security for a loan to fund a new IP.

    With interest rates as low as they are if you reqlly want to focus on paying down the PPOR debt why not convert this to P & I linked to a fully 100% transactional offset account and use this to reduce your interest.

    Just make sure your Bank dont cross collateralise your loans if you stay put with the same lender when you buy your next IP.

    Most have absolutely no idea how to properly structure a home and IP loan. 

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    Which State are you in and do you qualify for the First Home Owners Grant ?

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    As Eddie mentioned it depends on if it is treated as a business.

    We have a separate Company that's sole purchase for establishment is to provide Vendor Finance and are Taxed under the emerging profits rule. 

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    Hi Gomez

    Always good to share the negatives of cross collateralising loans with a fellow forumite as most banks have it in their interest to ensure that all of your loans are crossed and one or two lenders have their staff on inventive schemes when it comes to maximising security.

    All i was referring to with the split was that you would have the loans separate to easily identify what interest related to which loan.

    Let us assume that you have a property valued at $300K with a loan balance of say $160,000.
    You could take out a line of credit to a level of say 80% of the $300,000 which you would then use to cover deposit and acquisiton costs on your new IP's.

    Imagine the first IP cost $250,000 and you wanted to gear to 90% LVR.

    From the LOC you would draw down an amount of say $25,000 representing 10% deposit and a further amount of $15,000 to cover your purchase costs. You would then split the loans so that you had the following splits:
    1) Original interest only loan for the $160,000
    2) Interest only for the $40,000
    3) Remaining Line of Credit for $40,000 ($300K x 80% – $160k – $40K )

    Each loan has a separate statement and makes it easier to account for the interest on each individual property come June 30.
    The loans dont have to be secured against the individual IP's although over time with increased equity this can be done to tidy them up.

    Point noted on the website with thanks.

    Hope this clears up the confusion.

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    Pleasure michael as i said only an email away.

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