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What starts as a PPOR has a habit of becoming an IP and therefore where possible would always recommend a Interest only loan with 100% offset.
Regretfully too late in 3 years time when you decide to move again and want to retain the current PPOR as the next IP.
Flexibility is key to loan structuring something which i think Bank managers and a lot of mortgage brokers have absolutely NO idea about.
Re-read Terry's post as he makes some excellent and valuable comments.
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Daniel if they are "old school" and i understand their reasons why then they would not be wanting to put up their security for your property purchase.
If they have a loan on the property they would need to refinance to whichever lender you go with as you wont easily get a lender to take a 2nd mortgage behind someone else.
Sounds to me like you might have to save up to get the deposit which could be 10% plus costs and do the deal on your own.
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Realistically you will need 5% minimum deposit saved over a 3-6 month period plus acqusition costs and LMI.
Depending on your Credit score that may increase to 90% so regretfully i think i would read and save at the same time.
10% of $300,000 is $30K and that would be a minimum.
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Realistically you will need 5% minimum deposit saved over a 3-6 month period plus acqusition costs and LMI.
Depending on your Credit score that may increase to 90% so regretfully i think i would read and save at the same time.
10% of $300,000 is $30K and that would be a minimum.
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Hi John
Firstly welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time with us.
Couple of quick points:
1) Certainly wouldnt have the loan P & I even on my PPOR so would look to switch this to Interest Only with 100% offset.
Also make sure it is a true offset account and not a suido non transactional account.2) Yes you could add your parents in as Trustees however in additional to their income being taken into consideration any lender will also want to know their liabilities and this will work against you especially if they own the odd property or two.
Also will certainly restrict them for the future as each loan they will be providing a Guarantee.
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Crests figures are about right however i think you would get a slightly higher lvr on the motel security itself.
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Remember Cairns is not Charters Towers and builder are going to charge a premium for going inland.
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Agree with Terry your parents would be far better off to take out a loan for the 20% deposit and then gift this to you (even if you pay them back at the same rate of interest) than offer their security up for a family pledge style loan.
If the loan is over an 80% LVR both the mortgage insurers will require evidence of genuine savings for a minimum of 3% of the purchase price over a 3-6 month period.
The saving with the Stamp Duty concession and the FHOG could be paid back directly to your parents on Settlement to reduce their loan.
Rule of thumb would be that you could probably borrow around 5 x annual income so if $250K equals 80% of the loan then they will need to come up with $60K + less FHOG.
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Hillbillly
Sorry i dont want to burst your bubble of enthusiasm but this is clear not true
When your current lender wont lend the companee trustee any more money for more properties, move on to a new lender- set up another company trustee and start borrowing again. this is how i understand it.
All loans you Guarantee are required to be disclosed to a lender irrespective of the entity you are using. A Company search will reveal you Directorship and non disclosure will mean the loan is likely to be declined.
I think you will find that Steve has commented on this point a couple of times since the original publication and accepts this is not now the case.
Personally i would not use the same Trust for investing as I would for running my own business.
Sounds to me like your mortgage broker should be setting up your loan structures as it sounds like the existing loans are cross collateralised and this will cause you even more problems in the future.
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Only thing you need to bear in mind is that the lender will want to revalue the security that you are retaining and ensure that the loan to value ratio is mainted within its normal guidelines.
I have financed literally 100's of clients doing just what you are doing and never had an issue.
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Hence my suggestion you look to refinance into a Shared Equity scheme.
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Fredo firstly Merry Xmas to you also.
I thi9nk i read you are in Qld so if correct NO there is no way to Transfer your properties to a DFT without incurring Stamp Duty and YES CGT could be triggered on the Transfer value depending on a 101 points.
Nothing wrong in starting all future acqusitions in Company / Trust name.
Lenders wil go to the same LVR when buying in Pty / Trust however you might find there are less interest rate discounts offered i.e Pro Pack benefits with some lenders and also the set up costs are normally more as the Deed and Constitution need to be read by the lenders legal dept to make sure all complies.
Your Broker should be able to give you other options when it comes to acquiring in such a structure.
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Forget the family pledge just get him to tip in the cash otherwise you have security doc costs and valuation etc etc.
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LMI will be nearer $8K and if capitalised will be more because the LVR is greater.
Remember because the loan is over $500K then the premiums start to leap.
Sure your broker has told you would be better off to split the loans between 2 different lenders to reduce the cost or alternatively use a relocation loan lender.
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Sorry i thought i had done the calculation in my previous post.
Total Loan required = $293K + $309K + 12K = $614,000
Total valuations = $425K + $309K = $734,000$614,000 / $734,000 = 84%.
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To be honest i am slightly unsure as to what you are referring to.
I have never come across any lender that applies a buffer as you have described.
Simply if the lvr (which is the new loan as a percentage of the new valuation) is over 80% then you will incur mortgage insurance.
On your figures loan seems to be at 84% so LMI would be incurred but in saying this you would structure it so that you minimised the loan by using 2 different lenders. (LMI on a total loan over $500K will not be cheap).
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Darren
Welcome to the world of development, time and expenditure blow outs, higher interest rates, cost increases the list goes on
and on.To add to this i assume you have factored in GST and CGT on your sale.
In essense you are wanting to obtain short term development funding at residential interest rates.
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Not sure which State you are buying the block in but at those figures it certainly isnt Qld.
There are not costs for Mortgage registration / Transfer or discharge and not sure who your loan broker but he is kidding himself if he things the deal would be done at 10% especially on lodoc and DEF fees of 1K per unit is ridiculous.
You would add in probably around 3% for application costs and a further 0.5% for both Bank valuation and maybe $2500 for lenders legals.
A GR loan is like no other and you have limited lenders (mainly private lenders) who can and do charge what they like.
I assume of course you aren't going to undertake any "substantial renovation" to the unit as if so this would trigger a GST payment.
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I am with Terry whilst the deal maybe doable with a cash inject from your friend the question would be whether it makes financial sense.
Max lvr is likely to be circa 65% of GR and if you are unable to support the loan the interest rate will be around the 13% Terry has indicated.
If it can be financed you have to ask yourself is it worth.
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Jas
Yes with a decent equity injection from your friend then a gross realisation loan maybe possible.
Mainly these lenders want to see either some previous experience or pre-sales or at least the deal well covered by security.
Subject to the numbers interest capitalisation could be possible but the rate of interest and set up costs wont be cheap.
We have done a couple of similar deal over the last couple of months and very few lenders with such a risk appetite.
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