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Yes wouldn't have an issue with the structure recommended.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi Dave
Hate to say i think it unlikely as it all boils down to risk.
Why would an investor want to lend you 10% or similar and risk loosing his funds on a second mortgage when he / she could do the deal themselves.
In saying this of course nothing to stop you looking at doing the deal with the vendor leaving say 20% plus yours costs in the sale and then you paying him/her off over say 5 years.
This sort of deal is fairly common especially if you can find the right motivated Seller.
Good luck.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
No Steve is correct even adding back the negative gearing deduction on the interest into the equasion your income is is going to be a barrier to moving forward and purchasing again.
Whilst some lenders are using 8.25% as their serviceability rate a couple of the Big 4 are using 8.91% or thereabouts and this will dramatically reduce the amount you can borrow.
I think the exercise will be harder than you initially think and will need a little massaging from a good Broker.
There are still some lenders who take only the actual repayment and not a sensitised rate into consideration so using 2 separate lenders maybe the way to go forward.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your time with us.
How would show your wife can support the loan when she is not working irrespective of the lvr.
Secondly once you have purchased the property you will find that it wont be so easy to get a LOC in her name if her income is limit.
Why would you not purchase the property in Joint names either as Joint Tenants or as Tenants in common.
Alternatively with a little on the way and assuming the property will be cash flow positive why not look to buy in a Discretionary Family Trust and protect the asset as well as being able to distribute the positive income to the lower marginal tax payers i.e your wife and your child. (Children can for the current Tax year receive cira $2666 without paying anything in the way of Tax.).Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Subject to other 101 details and timing (When interest rates incresae affordability rates also go up so the amount you can borrow goes down) of your purchase you should be able to show serviceability.
As stated this would depend on you other loans and liabilities, number of adults, children in the family, potential rent on the property etc etc etc.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Secret agent the better mortgage management loan is thru Adelaide Bank and still requires you to state an income.
The income you declare is what the Bank will accept so if your Broker must have manupulated the stated income to suite the servicing criteria.
Adelaide Banks rate is 1% higher than the Anz rate but in saying that the Anz product is available across their complete suite of loans.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Very good GOM.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Must admit i have never noticed another post from him.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Intersting GOM 7 posts from our friend steve and 6 of them are self promoting.
The last one relates to wanting to find a property investing club presumably to sell his wares there.
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drs
Yes thats right Bank lend against cost not against GR.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Yes GOM and that will almost certainly disappear when the new National Credit Laws come in.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Must admit i have absolutely no idea.
If they can support the borrowing in their personal names they can support it in Trust.
Maybe the Mortgage Broker was just not comfortable in dealing with a Trust structure.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Course you can insure against a lot of these potential risks by fixing all or part of your loans although i am still not convinced you haven't missed the boat.
Also bear in mind that whilst the Mortgage Rate may go up 1 or even 1.5% the Banks use a affordability rate which is currently between 1.5% and 2.25% higher than the current standard variable rate so if they approve a loan they have a large amount of fat built into the deal to ensure that you dont over commit.
Secondly they are working mainly on the fact that they accept 75-80% of the Gross rental income so have allowanced for vacancy maintainance and repairs etc etc.
I have always taken a variable rate and believe if you buy in the right area you eliminate a lot of the issues that come with vacant properties.
Structuring your loans correctly and have flexibility such as lodging your 221D and having a QS report done on the properties upfront can ease some of the case flow burden.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Course you can insure against a lot of these potential risks by fixing all or part of your loans although i am still not convinced you haven't missed the boat.
Also bear in mind that whilst the Mortgage Rate may go up 1 or even 1.5% the Banks use a affordability rate which is currently between 1.5% and 2.25% higher than the current standard variable rate so if they approve a loan they have a large amount of fat built into the deal to ensure that you dont over commit.
Secondly they are working mainly on the fact that they accept 75-80% of the Gross rental income so have allowanced for vacancy maintainance and repairs etc etc.
I have always taken a variable rate and believe if you buy in the right area you eliminate a lot of the issues that come with vacant properties.
Structuring your loans correctly and have flexibility such as lodging your 221D and having a QS report done on the properties upfront can ease some of the case flow burden.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Ok sorry bit clearer now.
From an income perspective and making a couple of assumptions you certainly appear to qualify for both.
Non of the interest will be deductable on your PPOR but i guess what i was getting at was do not mix personal and investment use in a line of credit. If you need to split the accounts and have a series of LOCs.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi recruit
If the new property will be an a PPOR then NO definately dont utilise your current LOC unless you have a sub account as the interest wont be deductible.
I think i may have got confused on your post as i thought you were looking at buying a an IP initially.
Use the offset account on the new loan just make sure you make it Interest only as well.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Yours is a common question and one we get asked a lot especially when clients are looking at releasing equity in their own home.
Every lender is different so it is is hard to comment without knowing who the lender is but Yes most lenders want to control where the funds are going and seem to think that if we or another financial planner produces a FP then everything suddenly becomes all ok.
Now some answers:
Can the bank prevent me from borrowing upto 88% of my house. Yes they can as they have the funds you want.
Can the bank prevent me from borrowing upto 80% of my house (with the increased value)(i have not asked yet a i straightaway asked for 88% – If they are being problematic i might need to tone it down). Yes they can.Costs : I have paid LMI once before (9K) ,will the new borrowing (if the banks allow) only be LMI on the differential i.e. to borrow say 110K more LMI = 1.5% of 110K. Yes it will be although bear in mind LMI rates might have gone up since you took out the first loan.
Have you ever heard of the need for doing a financial plan before? To increase borrowings on a house. I thought people do it all the time to invest somewhere else.Yes all the time
Simple answer is tell them you are going to refinance elsewhere unless they agree to it.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Julia Hartwell at Bantics Accountants always has some good information available on her website so have a look at the following link and you should find a suitable download.
http://www.bantacs.com.au/booklets.php
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Hi Paul
I say it ever day Banks and their employees should be held liable like we are as Mortgage Brokers and FInancial Planners.
Clearly the strategy and suggested structure your brother in laws lender has suggested will cause him so many problems down the track it is not true and potentially he could kiss goodbye to the interest deduction not only on the new $150K borrowing but also the current $150K on his present PPOR.
It sounds to me like he is talking to someone without any experience of loan structuring or Tax planning.
This is a minefield and when he moves in it is too late to change.
He needs to think about:
1) The loan structure both now and in the future.
2) The entity or names in which the asset is purchased.
3) Whether he looks at selling the current home to the party on the highest marginal Tax rate and gearing to 100% as eventually this will be the IP and then shifting non deductible interest to deductible.Try and convince him NOT to proceed as is.
God Bankers make me so annoyed when they are so concerned about keeping the client and not loosing them to a Broker yet they tell clients absolute rubbish and then are never there to pick up the pieces down the track.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender
Structured properly your equity position looks ok but can't comment on serviceability without further detailed information.
Richard Taylor | Australia's leading private lender