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    Been around for a week or two and have small portfolio so like to think so.

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    Amazing

    Hate to say no lender is actually going to tell you that you could get a better deal up the road with another institution and to be honest my experience with most Bankers is that the dont even own their own home let alone an IP or two so advising clients on credit structure can be more a matter or telling you want Head Office want them to say or sell.

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    If the question is have you ever done a flip or two then Yes more than dozen but we use a Put & Call option rather than a simple flip because we tend to focus on large development style properties that i may or may not want to settle on and develop.

    I cant see why you would change lenders each time in fact your credit score is going to be affected if you do and would strongly suggest that you stayed with the same lender to establish a track record.

    These days lenders dont have early repayment penalties so other than any application they may charge they earn their income from interest.

    I have a few clients i have mentored into working with instalment contracts, wrapping to increase cash flow and capital.

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    Tesst

    Just ask the lender a simple question.

    What securities will be used for this loan application.

    If they say both and it is a single loan then they are cross collateralised.

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    Tesst

    Yes the loans will be separate but the investment loan will be over 2 securities your new IP and the existing PPOR.

    This is known as cross collateralisation and is the evil for investors.

    I wrote an article about why such a strategy was bad for investors some years ago for the API magazine and can let you have a copy if you drop me an email.

    The way the loans should be structured are as follows:

    1) 80% of IP purchase price with lender A secured against investment property solely.

    2) 20% of IP purchase price and acqusition costs with lender B secured against your PPOR as a separate interest only loan sitting behind your current PPOR.

    Your current lender will want to offer you 100% of the purchase price + costs secured against both securities and trust me there is a massive difference.

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    Hi Tesst

    Hate to say your lender cannot have it both ways and sounds to me like a nasty case of cross collateralisation. (Of course your lender wont tell you there is anything wrong with that).

    Yes hate to say the deposit funds have been contaminated. Your lender could have given you a Bank Guarantee or Deposit Bond for the deposit both of which would have been fine.

    I am lost as to why they would suggest that course of action.

    No point in crying over spoilt milk now but dont whatever you do Cross the loans.

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    Hi Tesst

    Good for you on wanting to have the property in your name and i can understand you wanting your independance.

    Obviously you are aware that as the property Title is in your name then you are the one who can claim any of the deductions. If your income is lower than your husbands which appears to be then you obviously wont claim as much as he would be able to. Of course in saying this once the property becomes positively geared the income will be added to your current income and taxed accordingly.

    I am however slightly concerned about the way you are wanting to finance the property as it sounds like your lender has suggested that you offer your existing PPOR as security for the new loan and cross collateralise the 2 securities. I really would strongly suggest you avoid this at all costs.

    i am also concerned that you have used your existing PPOR redraw to cover the deposit as you may have contaminated the loan interest from day 1 and therefore lose the deduction on this.

    Structure the loan correctly and i wouldnt have a problem. I am not saying that it is the way i would proceed but i can understand your reasoning and as long sa you believe the property will perform strongly over the long term can't see an issue with your way of reasoning.

    Definately seek some professional advice on loan structuring though before you go too far forward.

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    Wendy the amount a lender will advance will be dependant on your own personal situation and they will weight up your current income, expenditure etc.

    In saying this if you are referring to the particular property then many lenders do not like multiple living arrangements like this and therefore you may well find there are some lvr restrictions.

    Of course without any property details it is difficult to provide you with any real structured answer.

    On the surface and assuming the second dwelling downstairs is Council approved the numbers stack up reasonably well.

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    A lender will want its own valuation (in fact more and more lenders are using Valex and not allowing re-assignments of other valuations) and will want it done for mortgage purposes.

    If you are not happy with the Banks lending policies Nooob prepare your own valuation and then go into the open market and arrange private finance. If it that good a deal i am sure you will be able to negotiate a rate of interest similar to Bank rates.

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    Should cost you next to nothing assuming RAMS dont have any exit fees.

    Would have the Govt registration & transfer costs but would probably find these costs are made up in a very short period with a better overall product.

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    Exactly as Terry has mentioned.

    You dont think they are going to give you some of their money to invest.

    The funds will come from equity in your property.

    All you would do is arrange the line of credit or similar at a cheaper interest rate invest these funds in a higher performing asset class than the interest rate you are being charged and chanel the surplus funds into the non deductible debt.

    Remember you still need to pay Tax on the profit over and above the associated expenses so the rate would want to be very good.

    We have been similar for years with clients who want to buy high yielding properties rather than ASX or US Stock.

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    Agree with Terry the current set up does not sound ideal.

    A loan restructure to IO with 100% offset would be the way to go and then you can always look to set up a sub loan against the available equity and use these funds for the next deposit on either your future PPOR / IP.

    Have to admit Rams are not the ideal lender for such a requirement.

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    Renel dont you think there is a reason why they offer in house finance ……………….?

    Wonder how many deals come back down valued or do they condition you in advance telling you how evil valuers are and that they always down value and there is nothing wrong if the valuation is $30K less than the purchase price.

    You have to be kidding me.

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    Hi Beaka

    Why not try a locally based General Insurance Broker and see what the can offer you.

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    Hi Max

    Mhhh sorry to hear thatyour so called Professional Advice was not as Professional as you thought.

    Only way around is to:

    1) Either sell the property in the open market.
    2) Look to Transfer the ownership of the current investment property (i.e if it is in 2 names you might look to purchase your wife's interest or similar or alternatively look to sell the property into Trust and borrow 100% of the current value.

    Downside is that Stamp Duty will be more than likely payable on the Transfer and depending on the current value and original purchase price you maybe liable for CGT. There are then Land Tax considerations if the property is held in Trust.

    The numbers need to be worked thru before making a final decision and will be also be dependant on your Marginal Tax Rate.

    It is a question i get asked almost weekly so you are not alone.
     
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    Wade which State are you referring to ?

    Sorry should have read the post more clearly before responding…..SA sorry mate cant help you there.

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    I wont repeat what everyone else has already said.

    Financing a purchase in the US through a traditional lending source is something we have done for Foreign National buyers for over a decade and is not out of the question. Refinancing where you have already paid cash for the property is a different matter.

    As a Broker it all comes down to rate of return. We have to charge our clients a fee for arranging their US finance and the fee versus the number of hours spent makes it debateable. As Nigel mentioned you can finance a client into a better returning investment here in Australia and earn 3 x as much.

    We are also finding a lot better returns throughout the UK & Germany where we can get genuine FN finance at attractive rates and where property management like here in Australia is treated as a profession.

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    Or you could do it yourself at a fraction of the price and shop around for the best loan etc.

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    Like Jamie i have a leaning towards API because i have appeared in it on several ocassions and they managed to do wonders with my photo (took out all the grey bits).

    I enjoy reading all of them but wouldnt ever rely on any magazine to do my due diligence solely.

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    If it merely property conveyancing you can't go past CSM Conveyancing.

    Leonie Dixon is my Solicitor and has acted for me personally on well over 200 property transactions as well as for dozens of my forum clients.

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    Leonie is on holiday this week but back next week.
    Tell her i sent you and she will look after you.

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