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    Hi Dazza,

    We use BMT & Associates for our properties.  They have offices around Australia Melbourne Contact # 03 9654 2233

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    How about you just ask them to deduct the $6,000 and send you $294,000. 

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    Hi Rafael,

    Just a thought – why not purchase now at possibly a lower price than that which may  be on offer next year and pay what you where going to save over the next 12 months off the mortgage in addition to the rent I am assuming that you are paying now.   Without knowing your financial circumstances this suggestion would probably be more than you would be required to pay in mortgage repayments, hence allowing you to pay down your mortgage a bit more quickly and as a result create some equity and get a good headstart into the property market.

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    Hi Nitrodrops  You can download from the Qld Government website for free.

    Go to Departments – Look up Fair Trading there is a section for forms and you will find it there.  If you have any problems send me a fax number and I'll forward one to you. 

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    Qlds007

    Minimum 6% ?  How do you know this to be a fact?  

    If developer sells property at the same price to the public as you can purchase through TIC how does this mean property is usually overpriced?  More importantly – how is it then construed that because a higher commission may be paid to such groups that the buyer is buying an overpriced property. 

    Are you suggesting that a developer only market his property through "traditional" type agencies? 

    Many developers as you are aware rely on a certain percentage of off-the-plan sales before commencing a project.  The best method for marketing is to utilise the services of groups such as TIC.  Sales are made at a quicker rate, allowing the developer to commence sooner and hence reduce holding & construction costs, making the end product  cheaper for ALL buyers.  Longer lead in times for sales always ends up in higher costs to all.

    Be aware that some of the larger "traditional" agencies have project marketing divisions and make no mistake THEY ALSO are paid higher than normal commissions.  Are these also to be classified as groups selling "overpriced" property?

    A developer has the right to sell their property for a price that the market is prepared to pay.  If they don't sell then the market  price is too high – the buying market today is very aware of value for money and proper research by any buyer will show value of a product in the area.  

    If a developer is able to sell more properties through groups (be they traditional or non-traditional) and is prepared to negotiate a higher commission to reward effort, BUT still keeping the price the same for ALL buyers then the only person "losing" money is the developer. 

    There seems to be an underlying sense in these forums that groups such as TIC are somehow doing the wrong thing by buyers.

    Has anyone investigated just how much money some of these groups contribute to a variety of charities throughout the country.
    The amounts might just stagger you.

    It's about time people took responsibility for their actions when it comes to spending their "hard earned."  There are plenty of safety measures in the market place today to protect consumers when it comes to property investment so why not utilise them first instead of blaming everybody else after the horse has bolted.

    That's my rant and no I am not a member of TIC or any such group. 
     
    The best safeguard I have found to save me from paying for an overpriced property is to structure my fiances so each property stands alone as security for the loan.  Lenders will soon tell me if I can't secure finance based on valuations – alarm bells ring and I don't proceed.  Simple.

    Glad that's off my chest. 
     

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    doubledown trent wrote:
    hbbehrendorff wrote:
    I'm sorry that my quickly blotted out 1000 word thesis on very broad economic fundamentals contained some bad grammar,  Obliviously I have been caught out for the fraud I am and no longer have any credibility

    Because the truth is I failed every grade past the 7th and didn't even complete year 11,  Also English and Art where always my worst two subjects,  I could never quite grasp them with adeptness others could…. wow,  If you could only see me attempt to draw a stick man,  Then that really would prove me to be wrong about my economic theory's

    Perhaps you could write your own 1000 word opinion ?…

    See, I have pondered writing much longer and in depth post,  But it would probably reach 5000+ words and I would be ridiculed for a few grammar mistakes so there is no point…

    Wow, I've obviously touched a nerve there (or is it their?!). You're overreaction amuses me.

    The bad grammar makes me wonder what your background is, and where you have picked up all this economic wisdom you are so keen to share with the rest of the forum. It does damage your credibility, whether you like it or not.

    As for me posting my own 1000 word opinion, I wouldn't be so presumptuous to believe (as you clearly do) that the world longs to hear my opinions on economic theory, on a property forum.

    And by the way, it's 'theories', not 'theory's'.

    By the way doubledown trent please learn to correctly use YOUR  not the abbreviation of YOU ARE when writing.  Incorrect grammar is off putting  and not acceptable from anyone who criticises another for the same offence.

    People in glass houses?? 

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    I have used a company called BMT Quantity Surveyors for our properties in QLD.  They are a national company and have an office in Adelaide try them.  We have been happy with their services and my accountant likes their reports – helps at tax time. 

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    Hi AndrewD

    Am I right in assuming that this is the home you currently live in?  If so and you intend to do as you have suggested and claim depreciation etc I'm sure you will have Capital Gains tax implications if you decide to sell.  Just check with your tax adviser to ensure you are not setting yourself up for an unexpected ATO surprise.  

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    Wow congratulations on having the intelligence to buy your first home.

    You say that you could handle an extra $40 per week "if you have to" so why not do it now and have the benefit of building up a good buffer if rates do go up.  This extra payment would have a good effect in reducing your loan much more quickly.

    I would be very wary of fixing rates at this time – one reason is – if you do you will be paying extra NOW because of the higher fixed rate so whyu not just pay the extra into your loan as suggested.

    Also you may not be aware but if you fix your rates and decide to sell your house before the end of the fixed rate term the lender may charge you "break fees"  if they cannot get the same return on the money they lent you.

    I know you are a little concerned and say that maybe you would have been better off using the rental assistance etc, however, property historically does increase in value over time.  You would also have the benefit of any value increases which you wouldn't have if you continued to rent.

    All in all I think you have made a good start and just remember don't waste money on things you "want" as opposed to things you really need.  Example you may "want"  that new car, plasma tv etc but do you really "need" it.  Every unnecessary dollar you waste impacts on your financial future.

    Good Luck and well done.

    Cheers

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    Hi Alister,

    I'm always wary of just looking at the cash flow a property generates. 

    I much prefer to invest in areas that have a wider macro-economic appeal e.g Capital cities/major regional centres, rather than an area that is predominantly supported by one or two industries.  If the industry slows down or shuts down what value then for your property and what about the rent?

    I also believe that you need to have an exit strategy that is stacked in your favour if you have to sell i.e. easy to dispose of without too much anguish.  I believe that mining areas don't provide this.  

    Be careful of becoming emotional because of the cash flow – it's capital growth you need to focus on to help increase wealth for the long term and that's why I believe major centres provide more security.

    You rarely go wrong when you invest close to schools, shopping centres, employment, transport and infrastructure.

    Good luck with whatever you decide.

      

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    dr house wrote:
    I may look at selling a 4 bedroom, 2 bathroom home in Canungra, which has had excellent growth and never any tenant vacancies.
    Current rental return $320, but that is a little low (should be around $350).
    Please contact me if interested.

    Hi drhouse  I could be interested – whats the best way to contact you

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     Terry – I agree entirely.  Thanks for the explanation.

     Much better to keep borrowings simple – sure makes tax time easier.

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    Hi Richard,

    Just querying your comment that the $10,000 in LOC won't be  tax deductible if  Eric uses it towards purchase an investment property.

    I have done this on numerous occasions to buy IP and have had no problem claiming the interest as a tax deduction.  If the purpose the money is used for is to produce an income producing asset such as an IP, then I am sure the interest on the money used is a tax deduction.

    Am I missing something re your comment?

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    Why not go to http://www.realestate.com and look up available rentals in your area to give you an idea of what you will be competing against.

    I think asking a few agents in the area how the rental market is is a good idea.  If you say you are looking to provide a rental property (no need to tell them at this stage where) and you want some recent information re the weekly rental anticipated, current vacancy rates, enquiry rates, length of leases being sought by tenants etc this should give you a good idea of what to expect.

    Once you have this info you can decide what would make your property a priority for a tenant to rent – e.g. maybe consider a rental free period 

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    You have a point, but I feel the market will determine how many tenants are available not a particular property manager. 

    Does the on site manager own the management rights for the complex?  If so they have a vested interest in securing as many tenants as possible as this is how they secure their financial future. 

    If your tenant has an emergency problem with their apartment and the on site manager is also your property manager they may get a faster response to their problem, which may also save you agro.

    These are just general thoughts.  Why not give the OSM first chance to secure a tenant and if you are not happy try an outside agent.

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    I owner built a home years ago – NEVER AGAIN.  Too many issues trying to control tradies being on time, budget etc, lenders reluctant to release funds until they had thorough inspections done on each phase -time consuming.

    Ran over time and over budget, even though I did save some money.

    Was the stress, angst and anguish worth it – NO.

    Have since had all my homes built by registered builder – much happier.

    I make money doing what I do best and I leave the building up to the experts. 

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    We use on site managers.  When they are choosing your tenants they are also choosing their neighbours. 

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    Just a thought. 

    What is all the talk about TIC and the like charging big fees.  If the price of the property is the same for EVERYBODY in the market place regardless of who they purchase through – TIC, Local RE Agent, builder/developer direct –   does it really matter if the developer/builder decides as a marketing advantage  that paying extra money helps him to sell more property?

    All that is happening here is that the seller makes less profit,  the buyer IS NOT paying more than market price so please explain all you knockers how you believe the buyer is disadvantaged.
     
    I am not a member of the TIC nor have I purchased from them.

    I am an experienced property investor who understands that not all operators out there are ripping people off.  Sure there are those who will take advantage of the ill informed, naive "investors" who don't do their homework, however, in the market today there are many safety measures in place to help everyone proceed with adequate protection.
      
    Do your own market research, get your own valuations done if you are concerned – what ever happened to buyer beware??? 

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    For our house/land investment properties we use  Allianz and found them to be excellent.  Have had to make 2 claims in the past 18months and couldn't be happier with how they were  handled.  Very professional organisation.

    For our apartment investments we use TerriScher.  Haven't had to make any claims yet, but  our PM from experience says they are also good.

    As with any insurance – read the fine print carefully.

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    Hi Spudway.

    one of life's little wisdoms for you

    "People who matter don't judge, and people who judge don't matter"

    Forget Crashy and good luck and well done for having a go.

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