I've been running a variation for 6 years. Twice I had windfalls on the ASX and housing market which blew my estimates considerably.
I rang the ATO they gave me a BPAY number and I topped my account up on the 29th June. If you are honest and contact them if you are not sure you will have NIL issues. If unsure top your account and you will get it back any difference when you do your tax.
I love my variation I also check my figures every quarter so I don't have any nasty surprises.
Cheers
I should add you can update the variation anytime, every month if you so desire.
I've been running a variation for 6 years. Twice I had windfalls on the ASX and housing market which blew my estimates considerably.
I rang the ATO they gave me a BPAY number and I topped my account up on the 29th June. If you are honest and contact them if you are not sure you will have NIL issues. If unsure top your account and you will get it back any difference when you do your tax.
I love my variation I also check my figures every quarter so I don't have any nasty surprises.
The change process will hurt as it occurs but the outcome will be an improvement.
Think of a bushfire. Dangerous while its burning but makes way for new flora and fauna to flourish. The new life makes the decrepid memory of the burnt past seem like it deserved it.
perhaps.
I do agree that propping up the credit binged western world will only see a GREATER crash later. But I simply can't see the financial markets BEING allowed to do so by goverments.
I am with Alistair they maybe wonderful but anyone who charges upfront for a residential mortgage brokering service linked to debt reduction is taking advantage of you.
I tell you what for half that amount I would do it through in a Financial Plan and provide you with a free email monitoring service for the first 12 months.
Seriously how can someone tell you over the phone they can save you $6500 of Tax rebates.
The quicker these tele marketing companies are out of business the better.
Hi there, I have a few thoughts about Premium Finance. For example, the $6500 rebate mentioned probably would have been a conservative estimate of the amount of income tax Australian property investors can claim back thanks to generous government tax incentives. After all, the government can't afford to support everyone in retirement. Having said that, it isn't a competition between the knowledge of their accountants and yours. The advantage is in the investment options that allow you to claim the extra tax back, options that your accountant may be well aware of, but which you just don't qualify for… yet. It was mentioned above that this company all about creating wealth at a faster rate through property, not just as a mortgage brokering service. So I can't quite conceive how paying $295 for flights, accommodation and a full days wages for at least one employee, all in the name of selling a property by which there's a very good chance of making the customer a lot of money, is taking advantage of someone. As for the telemarketing companies, you should try to look past the momentary interruption of your dinner and consider the idea that while your relaxing at home, someone is working to offer you a service at no cost that could show you how to make a lot of money. There is a reason companies don't squander precious resources on regular forms of advertising. Most notably the fact that telemarketing allows a marketing campaign to focus on particular socio-economic targets suited for their product, i.e. Mining towns with labour oriented persons (unaware of financial strategies) plus high capital growth (unused equity) and high incomes. By now you might have guessed that I've worked for companies like Premium Finance before. Being cautious is healthy and natural but you can use the ASIC website to find information regarding financial companies like this one before making any judgments. All things said and done, if you do your homework and end up with a property, it was probably worth the hurdles and the dollars. Try to keep an open mind about you. Jonathan
As for ANZ… what does that word 'May' mean to you? Besides, I am 75% certain that NAB and ANZ won't survive the brewing depression. Safe loans are going to be with Commonwealth or Westpac and, no, i don't work for either. Don't even like them, let alone have a vested interest. It's just that they have more local investments and, though exports are slowing with China's economy, they will pick up again in the next 5 years or so.
Ummester, with all due respoect if ANZ and NAB fail in the great depression of 08/09 then I hope you have a shotgun, as thats what you'll be protecting your home with.
If any of the big 4 go, I'd expect a complete breakdown of the australian social-economic system and any dreams of buying a bargain will lost in thought while we all line up for food stamps.
I was looking buying a couple of cash flow + IPs for my wife, I'd give her the deposit etc. I just don't want to be on the title. Maybe I should look at a trust.
I have a 40k LOC that funds the shortfall on my negative geared IP's that is just about maxed out and i've arranged a top up of a further 40k. Even though the interest is tax deductable the LOC is still a debt. Would it be wise to start paying down the initial 40k?
God has stopped making land but hasn't stopped making people.
Would setting an ITWV with the ATO assist you in increasing your payments – at least you wont need to wait the full financial year to gain your return.
Good question. 10+ years is a long time, and true, at best what rates will be like then is only an educated guess. Fixed interest loans work a little bit differently, but even so, many lenders will not offer one for more than 5 years. One rough guide used to be to compare the rates for 2,3 and 5 year fixed rate loans, which gave a bit of an idea what 'the experts' were thinking. Fixed rates from many lenders have snuck up a bit of late, and you can bet another rate rise or two , or in the casr of some lenders if they get a whiff of a rate rise, the fixed rates will go up again. …….and those rates you qouted will no longer apply of course, unless you signed up for one and had it settle first – which is not a bad idea (but not for 10 years!)
As a sidepoint, I wonder how many people would want a fixed loan for that term? If they sold their house, the lender will get a huge early penalty payment, that will more than make up for the fact that th money may have been able to be 'sold' for more meanwhile.
I guess if you look at the Interest rates in NZ, they are what Steve is talking of now, which is more than possible, and maybe quite likely – who knows? Cheers.
well I signed up at 6.25 for 5 years, 5 years ago.. so my payments will go up soon (on 2 IPs anyay) I wish rates were still at 6.25
Cars Depreciate & Houses Appreciate so I have never bought a new car or anything over $20,000.
Bought my car for $40,000 two years ago. Now worth over $125,000 tax free. HO phase three fords were under $100,000 grand a few years ago. Now you will not find one under $500,000 with some for sale at the mystical figure of 1 MILLION. So all though i do agree in general , at the moment there is a muscle car boom on and big profits are being made for early aussie muscle cars. So for those looking for something different its worth checking out.
Yes it would involve duty at the normal rate charged however the SD is then added to the cost base for any future sale and the entire debt becomes Tax deductible.
At the moment i probably do a deal a week for clients in the same position.
Usually they have paid off their PPOR and then decide they wish to buy a bigger home yet keep the old PPOR as an IP. When you explain to them that the interest on the new loan would not be Tax deductible they are stunned and want a way to be able to claim the interest.
Richard,
I am faced with this exact dilemma atm.
We are settling a new PPOR on the 9/11 and have taken a 141k deposit against our current home for the new PPOR.
I have a broker that I use on a regular basis, but I'm not sure he is to clued up with trusts etc.
I did ask the other day in the forums about trusts and got some good feedback and went away and do some research and spoke to my accountant etc. But the idea of selling the old PPOR into a trust didnt seem clear to me..
As it didnt seem worthwhile unless the PPOR was CF+ and extremely so? As the trust cant distribute losses?
If I take a bigger loan against the old PPOR in the trust and pay down some of the new PPORs loan (or buy more IPs ) then whats the advantage if the property is geared so high its no longer CF+… or am I really confused
I went through the build your own family trust process on http://www.lawcentral.com.au ($275.00), assuming I set one up, how do I actually use it?
Assume I sell my current PPOR to the trust which would be a CF+ property, am I now able to claim the interest against it (The debt against this property has been used to butya new PPOR, so it would not normally be tax deductible).. what other benefits are there?
or, should I just my accountant and not ask a ton of questions here
Have had a lotta dealins with ATO folk in various lives over the years … and ya know somethin? …. these folk are human
They will beat ya ta death with the great tomes of legislation … particularly the tax avoidance bit .. if ya do the wrong thing (and so they should )
But I have to say .. if you are up front with them … they can be a great ally .. and (as I said) great folk (and NO .. I don't work for em ) …
So? .. they was a 'screw up' … be up front with em.
If you didn't use an accountant to step through all with you .. tell em – your bad .. you'll use an accountant next time .. can they recommend one … etc etc ..
If you used an accountant .. tell em .. sack the accountant .. tell em the truth … and why ya need the variance etc etc ..
Get the advice on ya next year BEFOREHAND … take it to them .. explain it to them .. ask their view .. is there anything you or your NEW accountant missed .. whatever .. but YOU must make the first move … and be up front.
and … DO NOT yak at the counter .. tell em ya want the super .. or whatever .. get a meeting room and talk through it ..
You'd be suprised .. they really only want the genuine baddies .. lotsa folk screw up … from experience … 9 times outta 10 … they understand that (ya may get a whack) … but thats ok …
give it a go
your right they are human and I've never had an issue with seeking assistance from them. BUT if you are so far over that its OBVIOUS you lead them down a garden path, forget a ITWV for the next year.