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    Sounds lovely. 

    Have you thought about how you will power your house if the power is 2-3km away, look into the cost of getting the power connected from that distance away or how much solar panels and batteries would be.  This could add quite a bit to the initial cost.  Rainwater tanks will solve the water problem assuming they can be transported to the island, check out the cost  of doing so?

    Lastly ring a builder who works on the island and find out what the costs would be to build on the island, there's probably extra transport costs of either brining the goods by barge or boat.  Not saying it can't be done but go into this with your eyes open, know exactly what your costs would be.

    Gook Luck
    PK

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    No you can't put up the rent that soon, however, I noticed you said you were in Perth and doing this on your own.  Ring DOCEP on 1300 304054 or 08 9282 0777 and request a copy of "The Landlords Handbook".  It's a free publication that has all the rules and regulations that a landlord must ahdere to in WA as well as samples of common forms etc.   I think you'll find it most helpful.

    Regards
    PK

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    Reading is a great way of learning. Although I have also been to seminars in the past I feel that reading has been one of the greatest ways to learn as you can go over bits as many times as you want.

    Now, do read one of Steve’s but also read some other authors as well as there are many different styles out there and you need to read a few to find out what investment style suits you best.

    My suggestions would be:

    a) From 0 to 130 properties in 3.5 years (Steve McKnight) although his second book was good too and I haven’t yet read the latest.
    b) How to Create an Income for Life (Margaret Lomas)
    c) Building Wealth through Investment Property “or” More Wealth From Resdiential Property (Jan Somers)

    I probably found Jan Somers books the most balanced as in it gave examples of negative and postive geared properties and the outcomes etc. For us Margaret Lomas’ way is actually the easiest to follow while Steve’s would be my ideal. Basically after reading lots we picked the path of least resistance (I think that’s one of Steve’s lines) and for us that meant going the Margaret Lomas way most of the time, although we did manage to do one Steve’s way.

    What I’m trying to say though is read more than one book, read several. Don’t get bogged so down that it all becomes confusing and you don’t know what way is right, because they are all right for somebody, just look for the way that will work for you.

    Best Wishes
    PK

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    OK, your appearance is fine, so I’d say it comes down to being young and a first time renter. It means that if you and another applicant apply and both stack up, but the other applicant has a rented before and has good references and you don’t then they will most likely choose the other applicant. (As a property owner I would. You see, in general all Property mamangers usally ring the owner if there’s more than one suitable applicant and give the owner the choice). This is nothing against an individual, it comes down to looking after the investment ie: go with a known good tenant rather than risking finding out if the other guy is or isn’t a good tenant.

    Yes, this is tough, with vacancy rates everywhere being low, it makes it diffcult to get a start.

    The only suggestions I could give you is to do as others above have said, firstly, get the work reference and see if a parent would be willing to be a guarantor for the first place. I know you want your independance and having a guarantor feels like you’re not totally getting your independence but if it gets you a rental history then it means you won’t need this next time.

    Lastly, you sound like a reponsible person in the way that you have asked for advice here etc. Have you considered buying instead of renting? It may be that it’s not currenlty affordable, but just want to check that you have checked out this option as well?

    Regards
    PK

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    I have the PIA software from Somersoft and always found that to be wonderful. I’m fairly sure that McKnight has software advertised here that does that type of thing too, so hopeuflly someone will come forward as to what that is like. Plus try looking up “Jaffasoft” posts, I seem to recall reading his posts, offering free or cheap software.

    I realise my reply is a bit vague but do recall reading of different things on this site in the past, so hopefully the odd thing above will give you a couple of leads to follow up to find something that suits you.

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    PK

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    It’s called Centrepay and the tenant can cancel the authoristion for funds to be deducted at any time or if their payment is less than the rent then you will only get what is there ie: if they do some casual work and their Centrelink payment drops to say $100 on the fortnight that your $300 rent was supposed to be dedcuted then you will only get $100 and you will still need to chase them for the shortfall.

    We know that the tenant can definitely cancel the authorisation they put in place anytime they like as our tenant did. The only way they wouldn’t be able to is if you got it as part of the court order.

    Having said that for many tenants who really do want to pay the rent but are just bad at budgeting this works as the rent is paid first and they are happy that that happens and won’t cancel the deductions from their pension. However there’s also bad tenants who just drag out the time they stay in your house for little or no rent then they’ll use this as a ruse to prolong the agony by letting the rent come out the first one or two times then they’ll cancel or change the amount authorised to be deducted so that you don’t get rent and then you need to start the eviction caper all over again.

    Also, a fee of $1.01 is taken out of each lot of rent money sent to you, this is Centrepays charge for doing this (they say 99 cents, but once GST is added, it’s $1.01). It clearly states in the Centrepay agreement that you cannot pass this charge onto the tenant, it’s something you need to absorb, however, it’s small bikkies if it means that the rent does actually come through on time.

    So yes, this is a good thing, but you do also need to be aware of the pitfalls and if a problem with rent occurrs even with this in place then get them out pronto!

    Regards
    PK

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    Is the CGT going to be as bad as you think! Before trying to avoid it which is unlikely, look at what it would be. My rough calcution (worst case scenario) would be around $35,000 each but that’s based on the very little info given and it would depend how it was purchased ie: names on the title (joint tenants or tenant in commona nd percnetage etc), what costs need to be deducted etc etc. That would still mean a profit of about $130,000 EACH, not bad for 4 years.

    If you need the funds then pay the tax and take the funds, your still well in front.

    PK

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    Also read the article in this months API magazine about “secondary market properties” (page 50).

    It doesn’t answer your question but it’s food for though on resale prospects.

    Good Luck
    PK

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    I have never bought in Kalg but live in WA and have investigated the market several times.

    What I have found is that when resources and doing well so does Kalg. When resources are not doing so great then often you’ll need to reduce rents to get tenants or you’ll ahve periods where the property is not ntenanted and the porperty doen’st appreciate duirng these times. However, if you’re holding for the long term then the good times probably outwiegh the “not so good” times. When it comes to selling though, you’ll want to do that in a “good time”.

    I don’t believe prices drop in the bad times but often houses sit on the market for a long time without growth in the bad times.

    It could be a good place to invest, just go in with your eyes open and be open to considering who rents the type of property you’re looking at. If it’s suitable for single accomodation only and the resources boom busts then who do you rent it to? On the other hand if you buy a unit or house then perhaps you can tap into the family market or something, rent may not be as high as renting to the miners during the good times but it gives more options. It’s only a suggestion, you need to make up your own mind on this.

    Regards
    PK

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    I don’t’ know anythinga bout “off the plan” buying, but is there anything stopping you selling your “off the plan unit” now? I know it’s not built but you bought it that way, can you sell it that way too?

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    You could get a valuer to value the property, explain what you are trying to achieve so he can separate the values for you.

    Or try ringing the valuers general office in your area and see if they can help with land value.

    Or ring a different agent in town and ask if there are any blocks for sale around the area of the house, if so, ask the price of the blocks, this will giv eyou an idea of what your block would be worth.

    Good Luck.
    PK

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    Get a valuer to value the property at this stage of development and they pay out your half of the valuation figure..

    Or go halves in the current land value and they cover the house cost in full.

    Unfortuantley it doens’t sound like a contract was written up prior to starting covering this type of thing. Perhpas next time do, as this could cause ill feeling if not handled well.

    Good Luck
    PK

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    Hi Jeff,

    Are they on a lease? There may be a section in the lease, if so you will need to abide by it.

    Secondly if they are on a lease then I think they have to stay while you are selling, but if they aren’t then they need only give you 21 days notice (in WA anyway that’s the standard notice) that they are going to vacate and then you are receiving no rent while selling. Is that a problem?

    If it is then I can only suggest that you don’t give too much notice.

    We recently advised our tenant that we intend to sell in a couple of months even though his lease had run out. We knew he was on the State Housing list so asked him if he could check for us how far away he was. Unfortunately it seems he’s 6 to 12 months away so we simply apologised and said we couldn’t wait that long but he’s welcome to stay on at reduced rent while we sell if he’s willing to keep the place looking good. He was very happy to take this option, so it meant we were still receiving some rent while selling and for him it meant he could put a bit aside towards moving in the event that an investor doens’t buy it. Do you think reduced rent may entice your tenants to stay and keep the place looking good? Some may just want to be out of there, only you can assess what may be work in your situation.

    Good Luck, and check the lease first and see if says anything.

    Regards
    PK

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    Hi Niki6,

    Firsly I know nothing about Sydney and the market there so can’t hlep with specifics, but I guess the things I’d look at are:
    A) why do people say not to buy them, is it a good reason or is simply a personal view they are airing?
    B) Check what vacancy rates are for these type of places ie: ring agents in the area and pretend you are looking for one to rent, is there a huge amoutn availalbe, if so then it may mean that you may have trouble renting it out yourself until you do want it. If there’s not much supply then try and find out why ie: are tenants looking for them but can’t find enough to rent in whihc case you should have a problem renting it if you bought one.
    c) I’m assuming these are strata titled so when you purchase, check out the strata fees and the company that manages it, see if you can get a hold of the last minutes of the last meeting as it may give you an idea of what’s happening ie: are there any major works planned, do they have money if anything comes up that needs fixing, do they have a plan for future maintenance etc?

    I don’t know if this is of any hlep as I don’t know the market at all in sudney, but hope it gives you a lead or two.

    Regards
    PK

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    Hi there Islandgirl,

    First thing I’d do is ring another agent that manages property in the town and find out what vacancies are like and if $120 is the normal rental rate.

    I’ve known owners who will pay the rent for twelve months themselves so that they can sell the property so just make sure that after the intial 12 months you will actually be able to rent the property for the same amount and it wasn’t inflated to “get the sale”.

    Secondly, if you really can’t inspect it yourself then put in a “Building Inspection” clause and have a building inspector check it over so you know it’s not about to fall down the day after you settle. This will give you piece of mind.

    Also make sure that there is a property manager in the area because otherwise you may end up having to manage it yourself and if your 7 hours away, then it’s difficult to do inspections or worse still if you had to go to court then it has to be at the court nearest the IP and not nearest you. If there’s a PM they will do this for you, but if your managing it yourself then it’s a long way for court hearings. Hopefully you never need attend one, but you never know.

    The others have already asked about the population and proximity to a bigger town so I won’t cover the same ground there.

    Bascially if you’ve done your research and think it’ll work for you, then go ahead and good luck.

    Regards
    PK

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    Also check you can get insurance and the cost (this may drag the yield down) as you are willingly letting people into the home to view it so not insurance will cover you for some types of damage. Check it out before buying.

    Could be a good thing, just check everything out first to be sure.

    Regards
    PK

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    Before you purschase you should have your exit strategy worked out so you know what you are trying to achieve.

    For some people this may be a buy and hold until they retire and then sell some to pay off others so you then have the rent as income on the ones that are now paid off.

    For others, they may wait for a ceertian amount of growth and then sell so that one sale may then fund two new purchases etc.

    Others may buy properties that they can add value to so they then have a postive income immediately.

    There’s many different scenarios, but firstly you need to work out what you what your end goals are and then work out what will work to achieve that end goal.

    PK

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    Can’t be done in WA either unless your spouse has died and the home was as joint owners (not tenants in common), then with the production of a death certificate they will transfer the name on the title to the living spouse.

    PK

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    Hi Pilum,

    Back in 2004 when this thread first started, properties in Balga were around the $200,000 mark. Seems I picked a right suburb becasue as you started the prices have grown remarkedly. Shame I don’t have an IP there![annoyed]

    PK

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    Yes, I’m happy to buy, been checking out various states other than WA but haven’t found what I’m looking for yet.

    PK

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