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Marshes,
Prop 1 is obviously better. It is not just the free $14K you are getting but remember you also get stamp duty relief of about $10K for your own home. So we are talking $24K free money really.
Prop 2 will reduce your tax for sure but this is also available to you after you move out of your PPOR and make 2 x IPs out of it in 6 months time. 6 months of earlier tax relief will not come close to the $24K free money you get out of Prop 1.
All the best
I hope it goes well for you too Nit, because you have paid over all the money on settlement and hold no bond – so it appears there will be no financial penalty to the vendor if there is damage or missing stuff. ??
Shannon,
I don't think the market is going to slow down for the following reasons:
1. FHBs are back to their 'normal' levels of approx 20% of the market and yet prices continue to rise
2. We have seen a steady increase of upgraders back in the market. Some months ago there were very few upgraders & some investors were dumping stock onto the market that was purchased by FHBs. But there are lots of upgraders who have sold to FHBs, now supporting the middle and higher end of the market
3. Investors are making a re-entrance into the market. Recently published surveys have 3 out of 4 investors who intend to purchase, waiting for the boost to expire.
4. The threat of interest rate (IR) rises are seeming to be having the effect of bringing forward investment purchases. Lenders' serviceability calculations are done on present IR + 2% – so, “better to get more funds now while standard variable rates (SVRs) are at their low point”, seems to be a theme we’re hearing.
5. People who were held back by fear because of media reports or people like Prof. Steve Keen, now see the folly of expectations of 40% falls. They are now facing the reality of paying 10% more than they could have paid, 6+ months ago.
6. While-ever the share market is volatile, people retreat to the relative safety of bricks & mortar.
7. Unemployment is not expected to get to the levels predicted. Gee – we did not even enter a 'technical recession' while the global financial markets were in meltdown.
8. Demand is still exceeding supply. New housing starts are still weak. This pushes up prices of existing stock.
9. Immigration still high, etc. etc.
I think the longer you wait at the moment the more you'll pay.
Keep them if they provide the cash flow you need for servicing more loans for proper property investments. If you are looking for CG then get out of them as soon as you can – its not going to happen.
Will you be holding a bond type amount to be released to them on satisfactory condition after move out?
Buy a copy of Australian Property Investor Magazine.
Buy some books advertised in the back in the Business Mall section (or borrow them from the library)
Go to some free property seminars but don't sign up for the $5K week-end ones that follow
Join a local investor group in your area
Read this and other property forums
Then buy 1 house and repeat at regular intervals.Another vote for CGU and I have claimed a few times – all good and looked after me well.
I'm a big fan of buy & never sell. Selling triggers CGT and REA commissions. Buying costs stamp duty etc also. Very often you can suck cash out of a good IP which has had CG.
But I understand the sentiment of you are paying down PPOR non-deductible debt.Macnatt wrote:Is it worth getting a private valuation from a valuer who is on the banks panel before approaching the bank.Yes in my view BUT as others have said you may get a different val amount when it is for mortgage purposes – so tell the valuer that that is what it is for when you commission him/her.
Macnatt wrote:Has anyone ever done this??Yes BUT in the present credit environment if there is MI involved, then the MI may not want an assigned val from you. They'll possibly do their own.
Macnatt wrote:Would the valuer look past the price the proerty is advertised for sale??Yes. Valuers calculate value based on past comparable sales. An advertised price is completely irrelevant to a valuer. Actually an advertised price is completely irrelevant to a me as a Buyers Agent too.
Cheers Nat.
No – they do not make good investments.
Yes, there are trps. Low Capital Growth, high fees. Low LVR loans to buy them. No easy to sell if you want to get out.
There are better ways in my view to get good CG & high yield than this.
There are cf+ deals to be had in Sydney & major regionals like Newcastle. (which I mention only because I am familiar with it. I am sure there are others like it). I don't believe you have to go out into the counrty to buy sub-optimal property with low CG prospects to get good yield.
You need to think a bit laterally. You can rent by the room to students near a University for example or buy a house with a small flat attached. Both these kinds of property we buy a lot for ourselves (as investors) and for clients. That way you get the best of both worlds CG & yield.You can find the best rates on the day @ http://www.canstar.com.au/interest-rate-comparison/compare-100k-term-deposit-rates.html
Jaffasoft wrote:I lied. I lied to a property management agency.They already know. They have a saying: "The buyers are liars" – the sales department told 'em so.
hgwells wrote:Has anyone come across a website where you can punch in a suburb and get the rental vacancy rate for the area? thanks HGYes, there is a very good website that does this. Just put the postcode in here:
http://www.sqmresearch.com.au/graphs/graph_vacancy.php?t=1KyleT wrote:Does anyone know the best way for us to start looking at Sydney/Melbourne properties? Like is domain.com.au and realestate.com.au good places to look, or is there other places to look at?Those two websites are the biggest in the country. In reality nothing much else amounts to anything much by comparison. Kyle, most people find the distance both in travel time, cost of flights, accom, different time zones to WA difficult to deal with when buying out of state. Then when you get to the Eastern States you don't know what the good or bad areas are anyway.
Some with the time & $s available do several trips and lots of internet research. Some develop relationships with real estate selling agents and then get trusted friends to do inspections for them. Others hire Buyers Agents like ouselves to do all that for them. It comes down to personal choice.KyleT wrote:I am also curious to how all the offers/paperwork/conveyancing is done due to the distance.Until we get national conveyancing standards in this country (like road rules) each and every state & territory has their own quirky things. You don't want to be paying your Perth-based conveyancer for their education in Victorian or NSW conveyancing in my opinion. Hire a local mortgage broker by all means and you can do the conveyance remotely by e-mail / fax & post.
Cheers,KyleT wrote:I guess what I am after is some advice from past experience or future opinions or pros/cons, etc. I would ask some family friends, however, the only ones that seriously invest through property use Moneychoice!Kyle, you need to choose your family more carefully
I would not be buying in Perth right now – IMO it still has a way to come off
Neither would I be buying in the Docklands:
– with rentals so freely available
– with so many units for sale now and still to come online
– with no ability to make yours stand out from the crowd
– as you've already identified.But I would be buying in Melbourne or Sydney. Adelaide is OK but a lot of growth has occured, same with Brisbane. Sydney is starting to make some gains after a long flat period. Do some more research.
Good work buying the PPOR. Try the pool fencing panels for front fence. You can get them cheap at Bunnings. They last and come pre-painted / powder-coated – so maintenance free.
And finally, what sounds like a silly idea but it isn't. Buy it in black. The black fence simply disappears whereas a lighter colour comes to the forefront and becomes the feature you never wanted. Black will also disappear into the hedge you want to grow.
Lisa J wrote:I would really appreciate some advice…We are a couple in our early 40s with kidlets.. have been investing in real estate for 20 years now. We have generally done really well with our PPORs – buying worst house in best street and renovating and getting good CG.Congratulations on all counts.
Lisa J wrote:does anyone know of a financial advisor in Darwin who IS up with positive cashflow PI?Financial planners, consultants & advisors mmmmmmmmmmm. It is very very difficult to find just one (I'm sure there must be) who actually recommends direct investment in property. They are mostly commission based and make their money from recommending managed funds. There is therefore no incentive for them to recommend property – no money in it for them.
Paying off your PPOR was dumb advice IMO, as was buying in Darwin (at the peak).Lisa J wrote:does anyone have some pearls of wisdom to share to help us crystallize our action plan? please!Afew perhaps:
1. Darwin is at the peak of its cycle. If your posting there is 2 – 5 years it may be better just to rent (even though the rent is high). Transaction costs going into and then out of property is high too. 2 years is definitely too short and 5 years would be the absolute minimum to hold any property anywhere. What you want in a PPOR is not necessarily what you'd look for in an IP in any event – if you had plans of turning a Darwin PPOR into an IP when you left.
2. Even thought I am a Sydney based Buyers Agent , I'd be buying in Sydney or Melbourne at present. Sydney has Australia's most unmet demand and is starting to move up after being flat for the last 6 years since 2003.
3. For a balanced portfolio you should have some shares. BUT before you do direct share investing you should know about shares, what you know now about property.
4. The conditions that existed when Steve did what he wrote about in 0-260+ have changed. You need to adapt the strategy for today. It is still possible to buy cash flow positive in major metro areas like Sydney, at the moment. You can do it too in larger regionals. We have found some gems lately for our clients in Newcastle.All the best with the relocation – I hope you & the kids all settle in for the duration. All the best with the investing too.
tom89 wrote:tell me what you think of this one the rental yield is what attracted me mostI can see why you are attracted – the yield is good. But there is, as they say, "no free lunch". At <50m2 there are difficulties getting finance or getting finance at decent LVR's. There are very few lenders that will do it.
Shared laundry is not a big seller as already mentioned.
You could perhaps do better.leok31 wrote:you are very specific….Well my apologies for being so direct but if you don't give specifics I will not be able to give you specific information to assist you.
Here you go (click around here):
http://www.realestate.com.au/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=ncs&cy=24&t=nc