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    Just as a point, in the future I will be monitoring bank’s fixed rate rates over time instead of relying on what the RBA does.

    In my opinion, what ever reaction (to fix or not to fix) is made after the RBA changes rates is too late….

    Happy Debt servicing……

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    The Juggernaught continues….

    With all due respect, it seems that all of you have missed one important point when you choose to remain on a variable home loan mortgage rate …..INTEREST RATE CYCLES……

    In case you are not aware, we have just seen (last 12 months) historical (40 year) lows. Rates are not going to get lower – so why remain on a ramping up interest rate…?

    Yes, it is generally not good to fix rates for those who buy and sell property for short term capital gain – but the implicit nature of real estate investing is (and should be) long term and long term only.

    One should realise that we have just seen a very rare event in interest rate cycles (40 year lows) and if one was tuned to the banking cycle, fixing your mortage rate surely is the only way to go….

    In other times of the cycle, yes, I would leave my rate variable…but not at this stage…

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    Hey Bill,
    am interested as well in ads and stuff.
    Send to
    lrobbie at netspace.net.au
    Cheers!![:D]Lisa R

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    That’s good news, I had been waiting to hear what was happening – bank appointment next week to sort it all out!!

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    Mel,

    My sincere apologies for my momentary lapse of attention to your rivetting story.

    Do go on .. tell us more about the implosion. I was born in the same hospital a few short years prior to your arrival there. I took photos of the implosion that went wrong, as bits of the building exploded into the lake.

    Remember Katie Bender?

    Kind regards, Phil

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    Bill,

    I reckon you’re right, again!

    I posted just to make contact with Shaun and we end up with Mel’s life story. Bloody hell.

    And still no sign of Shaun.

    Have you totalled up the rentals in today’s paper yet?

    Regards, Phil

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    >>registered in his wife’s name (who was Turkish nationality whilst he wasn’t and he could therefore actually own property in his own name). <<

    Sorry I made a typing mistake. Even tough my friend is married to a Turkish citizen he cannot own property in his own name (so the above paragraph should have read ‘ ………… he couldn’t therefore actually own property in his own name’ )

    However I have just thought of another risk guys.

    If you were to invest in a country where you cannot own property in your own name and if you placed the property therefore in your partner’s name because he or she can own the property because of his or her’s nationality that partner can leave you and take the property with him or her !!! [:O] [:D]

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    Investing in other markets than one’s own does provide some risks as well as advantages such as :

    1. Unless you live there it will be difficult to manage the property efficiently or for that matter to locate a suitable investment property.

    2. Currency risk. The economy of some of these countries you seem to refer to is in tatters so there is a distinct possibility that in terms of your own currency at home the actual value of the overseas property actually goes down.
    Then again in Aussie terms the overseas country’s currency may increase in value. So we suddenly find ourselves in asituation where another area has come into play which we have to take into account.

    3. Some of these countries have a lot of crime and violent (mafia type) people. You may lose control of your property to ‘the wrong’ type of person and not being able to regain possession.

    4. you may not enjoy the same kind of protection by the laws as in the country where you presently reside.

    5. Some countries are politically unstable. Do you really expose yourselves to all kinds of risks which flow forth out of a county in upheaval ?

    6. Possibly hard to near impossible to get a mortgage loan.

    7. You may experience language problems.

    8. Different type of laws compared to the system you presently are exposed to.

    9. Where you live now you can use your spare time to locate the right kind of properties. To buy in far away places likely means you cannot work there so you lose income whilst you are looking for suitable properties.

    10. some countries (for example Turkey) I understand you cannot own property being a foreigner.

    11. I know someone who whilst living in Turkey
    owned a multi million dollar vacant development registered in his wife’s name (who was Turkish nationality whilst he wasn’t and he could therefore actually own property in his own name). well this development site was ‘stolen’ from him by Mafia type people who obtained a replacement copy of the title deed and thence sold it. My friend couldn’t in this situation recover the land.

    That person’s story isn’t finished. His share broker took off with a couple of hundred (US) dollars’ worth of shares belonging to him. (about 800 other people found themselves in the same boat). In the mean time the perpretators of these heists disappeared to another country.

    However I have to admit that this kind of thing could possibly happen even in Australia I guess.
    The point is that there may not be the same kind of rules in place in a different country.

    The main point of the above is that in some countries they don’t (as yet) have the same kind of regulations (to protect one) in place as in Australia).

    11. Do you really want to spend a big part of your life in a cold and miserable climate ?

    Some advantages ?

    A. Well you could obtain some reduction of risk (both currency and other factors) by spreading your investments out over different countries.

    I would guess that the subject is really a very hypothetical exercise for us as how many of the people on this website would actually be in a position to pursue investing in another country on a largish scale ?

    BTW my understanding is that property in france is relatively cheap.
    Then again, going there means that one eventually will be living in a Muslim country (dealing with new kind of laws and customs).

    Now if france was only France it may be a different matter. france is on the way down even though its leaders are desperately trying to
    re-establish france’s earlier glory and importance. Yes, you are quite right, obviously I don’t like the frogs anymore.

    B. If you are about to run away from the law (or your wife or your creditors [:D] ) where you live now you could of course try to find a suitable country which can serve as both a safe haven where not only you cannot be touched but where you also could do some real estate investing.

    I have no doubt there are some other pros and cons as well.

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    It may be some consolation to you, Shannon, to know that historically one would have been better off to remain with variable rather than a fixed rates.

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    Arty, I cannot see why a patch would be the solution.

    After all I have no difficulty copying and pasting from other websites.

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    To all…

    I think this interest rate issue is all a SCAM!

    I fixed my $200k loan @5.75% for 3 years back in August this year.

    Before the RBA raised rates last week, all the banks (including mine) had silently creeped up their fixed and variable rates since July this year bit by bit. Now, the public will think it is normal for the banks to raise their rates AGAIN just because the RBA raised their official cash rate!

    There was not one sceric of media since July this year that rates were in fact rising all the time!

    Pity you Shannon (and the rest of the unaware public) who missed out on the rate differential to make fixing worth while…

    Good LUCK!

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    Hi again Westan,

    I wanted to tell Shaun .. hhmmm .. some inside info. Can’t really say here.

    Gotta keep it small talk for now .. Renee should be back in here next week, if the Doc’s give him the all clear. We miss Pauline’s weekly visits. Tried to teach her the 11 second rule, but all she keeps asking is “Please explain”.

    Gotta go, the screws are about to turn off the generator.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    Bill,

    In last Saturday’s Crimes I counted 32 columns of rentals. A quick count excluding private ones. I believe the type-set is becoming smaller too.

    I will tally up tomorrow’s to check for a further increase.

    Phil

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    Hi Westan,

    Neither of the terms “chick” nor “bloke” are apt descriptions of Mel. She is a lady with a great sense of humour and acumen.

    Anyhow, great to get 8 replies to a post meant for one.

    On that point I must digress and share this with you, considering that you have posted. (Makes the time pass as we await the respondent of the intended message!) I was taught by Catholic nuns when I was in primary school. One teaching sister suggested that the only way to get us to read the bible was to mark it with “Only for those over 18 years of age”.

    I reckon she was right. Perhaps she would have made for a great Moderator!

    Seeya, Phil

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    Sunshine,

    Dark Corners

    Each cloud a silver lining
    It be propogated Sunshine
    Droopy corners find their place
    Within fake smiles to pine

    As a Labrador is placid
    His outward smile asks of yore
    Check the corners of his mouth
    His story tells much more

    Memory’s corners dark within
    We each have rooms of solitude
    Scrape the tape, open windows
    Invite the homely mood

    Dunno, just scrape ’em back and start again by the sounds of it.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    LOL mel…..shhhhhhhhhh!! You were supposed to keep that a secret!! it isnt my fault my boss cant live without me!! hahahahaha

    and what Arty is really worried about is the fact that I have brought home stuff from work that needs checking and watching and all that…..and hes worried the family will find something embarassing!! hahahahahaha

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    awwww another little forumite will be joining the world!! Aint that just the cutest!!!!

    Aussie have you considered the name PINKY? hahahaha

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    >>Howard holding the RB back from making an interest rate rise until after the election was so wrong- could the RB be independent after all?
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    The RBA is an independent entity. Whether Howard can tell the RBA what to do depends whether or not you believe in ‘wink wink’ conspiracy theory.

    As it is the government cannot tell the RBA what to do. There may well be discussions and no doubt the gov. has got a representative on the board who can possibly put the the govt’s point of view.

    How the RBA then votes is up to the board.

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    The topics a bit way off anyway Ghoti, so don’t worry about it. Anything that appeals to our basic materialistic instinct will always be an interesting topic.[:)]

    With regard to laptops, I got mine with salary sacrifice. There is no FBT on laptops, so my company can get it GST free, and then we sacrifice our pre tax dollars for the rest. The end result is a laptop costing 47% of the retail price.

    Jim.

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    Hi Ksafik,

    And I own and have read the same book at least 7 times.

    Bring thy fiance and thy finance unto the family moat.

    Judgement day comes not from thy first post, but from thy last.

    Phil

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