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    Thanks,
    I have made an appointment with a tax agent as I will need to manage my normal income tax anyway. Also, I got new curtains earlier this year, they cost $2500 and I was wondering if I should take them down and put up some cheap ones or if I should leave the ones up I have.

    It is a 3 bedroom free standing unit/villa – whatever you call them in a block of 8. It is near two universities, with a bus stop outside the front of the common garden, and an Australia post box at the other end. There is an aquatic centre 5 minutes walk away and a major shopping centre about 15 minutes walk away. The bus from the door goes to the shopping centre.

    I REALLY need to have it renting the full time and I have paid the mortage 5 months in advance. Sine I will be storing all my stuff, which will cost me, I want to get as much $$$ as I can.

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    Hi Rubbachook and Sue,

    I’m sure it’s Fatboy (Paul, where are ya?) who gives a week’s free rent to his brother. Yeah, good for families, saves buying presents for us lazy buggers.

    Don’t forget to load the rent by 2%+ to pay for the feel good Christmas present of a week’s “free rent”. The initial idea of course is as a thank you to a tenant who continually pays on time and looks after the place.

    I like starting a new tenant with a token thought too. I left a bottle of wine with a note telling them things about the property, services etc.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    What’s the difference between Jacko the Whacko and a shopping bag?

    One is made of plastic, the other is used to carry your groceries.

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    Hi Redwing,

    Ah so !! .. we all want to be Landlords, but only when it suits us right? It’s a two way street. Your tenant has ended a 6 month lease. That is the end of his commitment, else he would have been signed up for longer. Your tenant would also want security of tenure, it has served his purpose. It is normal practice to follow on month by month. I’m with your partner, relax will ya, it’s all part of the game.

    Old Chinese Proverb .. “Another tenant will arrive when the property is ready”.

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    Hi Allan and Wirrumbirra,

    Another way to see it is that it’s because there are 52 weeks in the year. If you divide the number of weeks by one half, or multiply by two, you get 104.

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    Hi Matt,

    I reckon you’re right. It sounds to me that the vendor is doing all they can to make it easier for a prospective buyer to settle quickly. They may have most probably exchanged on another property, so have to push this one through. It would not be in their interest to provide a “vendor friendly” property inspection, as for all they would know you might be a builder yourself.

    Bear in mind though, both a prop report and pest inspection are only valid at the point that they are conducted. Next doors rats might return tomorrow and a storm might hit next week!

    This gives me an idea. As you will get a copy of both reports, for the sake of a few hundred bucks, why not get another inspection done anyway? It’s also cheap insurance and a negotiation tool. It will be highly unlikely that both reports will be identical. So, use the contradictions to your advantage on the purchase price.

    Next bit is, you can’t settle in 2 weeks. Yet they have accepted your offer. Put the pressure on, then ease off with a part solution. From your words “wanted a 2 week settlement”, find out the real motivation they have. Is it really urgent for them or not? As their reports were done 4-5 weeks ago, they may simply be getting tired of inspections over 2 months. Depending on your state laws, why not offer to rent it from them between exchange and settlement, to extend your own settlement date? Whether you move in or put someone in there to cover your costs, their own public liability should cover any “visitors”. If you move in, you get a good look at the place in the mean time. Once you have exchanged (depending where you live), you have exchanged, full stop, yet conditional to any clauses such as inspections that you include in the contract.

    Just thoughts mate, I’m sure others here may have simpler solutions.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    >>Talk to Small Business Victoria if it is property development or the like you want to get into and you need money partners for this.<<

    I would think that bureaucracy is only good to tell one what licences one may need and what department to go to in order to apply for a licence or where to check something out.

    There isn’t any way they will be in a position to supply one with a list of people lined up with bated breath to hand out money to partners in need of a money partner.

    Dell mentioned that ‘At Steve’s seminar on the weekend, Steve asked if there anyone looking for money partners etc..so that people could network.’

    That is about the one place where one may possibly find people with money who haven’t got a clue as to how to go about things and who therefore may be interested in teaming up with someone in a deal.

    Looking say in the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturdays under ‘Money Stock and Shares’ one will find every now and then an advertisement where someone is offering 20% or more return trying to find people with spare cash. It may be worth it to advertise there trying to find the right kind of person ?

    One could also talk casually (but enthusiastically) to all of one’s friends about a particular project but ……….. without asking them whether this could be of interest to them (as they may get frightened or they may be suspicious.

    If they are at all interested they will soon enough ask you how they could participate (in which case participation will be THEIR idea, not yours)!!

    What about one’s parents ?

    And, if all else fails, what about a sugar daddy Enjo ? [;)]
    No, not me, I am a diabetic so all sugar is banned within 50 yards of me. [:D]

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    Of course Bill.

    It looks like you are a nightowl like me.

    Cheers,

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    >>I myself have an investment/development company which finances relatively large real estate projects in Australasia<<

    I don’t know what exactly you are saying in the above paragraph Michael.

    Are you lending money or borrowing money ? If it is the first then please let us (me) have your email address.

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    Anyone who is afraight that the bank will take too long to approve a loan, well the solution is simple : Ask for a pre-approval for the highest loan you can get on your income.

    Then you can even go to an auction, make a bid and sleep that night.

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    Hi Kenshin, [:I] I sure misread your post. I thought the post said that you had dug up some course on the internet. On re-reading your post I see now that isn’t the case at all.

    I am sure Tafe is fine.

    I am sure however that many would find it interesting to see the figures you used.

    (That is, your salary income, deposit and loan amount in each instance, the envisaged rent on a property worth $ 550,000 and the interest rate used for calculations.)

    Also, the bank appears to think that you can only comfortably service a $ 260,000 loan.
    If you now, instead, buy a $ 550,000 house and it will not produce any rental income (as you will go and live in it) and your salary remains the same it appears as if you may have problems servicing the higher loan !?

    BTW BIll, I NEVER have a bad day. [:D]

    Cheers,

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    MichaelR, it isn’t me who stops one getting finance.

    Say one found a site suitable for even just 10 townhouses and the deal stacked up. If one hasn’t got any money , well find a moneyed partner for the deposit etc.

    If one thence approached a bank or a finance company to borrow the rest one will find that one will be refused if one hasn’t got experience despite the fact that one can come up with a sizeable deposit.

    The lenders are in a position to pick and choose the borrowers so why would they look for headaches with inexperienced people ?

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    Mastermind, a profit of $ 30k per dwelling isn’t all that good considering that many things can (and do) go wrong.

    Perhaps you have paid too much for the blocks to start off with ?

    Can you detail the costs involved (purchase price of the land, building costs, landscaping including driveways, supervision by a builder or architect, selling expenses, holding charges until sold, legal expenses – including perusing the building contract etc, etc.) ?

    You definitely need someone to check the construction as it is happening as many builders aren’t beyond taking shortcuts or making mistakes (for which you may have to pay the price later).

    Has the builder given you a fixed price or is there a possibility of additional expenses you may not expect at this stage ?

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    Hi Uncivilized, (any chance we can refer to you with a more positive handle??)

    I clicked on your link from your post:

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    Any other suggestion.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    Hi James,

    It’s a wrap in disguise.

    Not dumb at all. You should see some of myquestions !!

    Shared equity describes something that I thought of some time ago. I wondered why the lending institutions had not thought of it earlier. If they lend so readily, then why not get two bites at the cherry with direct ownership in capital growth, particularly over the past four years.

    I guess they see it as the same as wrapping a client. Politics have most likely averted their creativity.

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    Hi Uncivilized,

    My sentiments exactly, in theory.

    Neg gearing can work while you are still working. To properly work however, the long term CG must outstrip the shortfall for the term of ownership.

    You have already realised the limited serviceability of buying pure neg props. The trap you have fallen into however, is in thinking that you have paid $78,000 for a $120,000 property from your example. Not so. Without CG, this property has cost you about $39,000 after your tax relief on the highest marginal tax rate. Over 30 years, you will have paid out for repairs, rates etc. The bit you have forgotten about is the principal purchase price, plus interest on any borrowings. You still need to get back your principal, be it cash or a loan.

    On a better note, your thought of a balanced combination is far better. Having a foot in both camps sounds best to me for two reasons. 1/ Neg props will prove profitable in a rising market, provided that the CG is greater than your nett costs. 2/ Pos props with marginal passive income chance the risk of quickly flipping over to neg with moderate interest rate rises, all other conditions remaining.

    Therefore, gain is required to hedge against positives turning to negatives, and positives in place, can fund the negatives. I hope that makes sense. Both are good given certain market conditions, but even better when balanced. At worst, CG props could be sold off, if and unlikely that all pos props flip to the negative.

    As Josh points out, you can’t expect high gains and growth on the same property. It’s one or the other, which again you have already come to conclusion. That’s why the pos geared props are found in the boondocks and growth properties are located naturally closer to the CBD’s. I would suggest that the only contradiction to this is units in CBD’s. High rent return, but little growth.

    In thought, thanks for yours. Phil

    ps You don’t sound too “uncivilized” to me.

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    Hi Kenshin,

    Please explain why the bank would only lend
    $ 260,000 as a house ofr your personal use and lend $ 480,000 as an investment.

    You mention the words : “to start my life/career in the property industry.”

    If you are thinking of a career in real estate (as a valuer or whatever) why would you study (presumably) obscure course instead of doing so at the regular places (like for example – if you live in Sydney – The university of Western Sydney ?

    I don’t think anyone would give a fig if you were to change your mind about the property and decided to live in what originally was meant to be an investment property PROVIDED the payments are made as they fall due.

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    Hi Sue,

    Well, I reckon so. This site will become busier later in the week, just watch. However, I feel that interest in property in general will decline. It’s just an observation, not a point to prove nor disprove. As you say, it will ripen again, but it’s about timing. I’m also one of the sheep, but I’m hoping that by having open discussions with those like you, I won’t end up being a lamb roast.

    I had never intended nor considered that I would have any influence on anyone by the way. I see this forum as a collective thought, from which we choose to gain or dismiss knowledge that fits or contrasts our thinking.

    Kind regards, Phil

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    Thanks guys – am looking in the Brisbane area – so will take your advice

    Regards
    Chris

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