>>Why should you discuss it first with your accountant??<<
It is always better to discuss it before, rather than later, with one’s accountant. [] (bad joke)
The real reason I said so ?
I am not an accountant though I try to look at things and situations from a common sense point of view.
Firstly, properties owned before a certain date (1986 ?) do not attract tax when sold.
The moment one strata titles and subsequently sells
all or part of the property it looks (to me) as if the issue may become clouded.
The tax department may well take the stance that you are a developer and had in mind all along to do so so as to produce a profit.
The tax in this situation may be more than if one only were to pay the tax on a capital gains basis.
It is a similar situation to when one owns a property which is (or becomes rezoned to) a development site.
Again, in my way of looking at things, I would either have my buyer apply for development approval (or I may even sell the property to a company I own) rather than applying for the development consent in my own name.
Paranoic ? Perhaps. []
BTW one will generally be able to sell a development site for more money with, rather than without, development consent.
I spent a few hours today calling on a couple of real estate agents in a large town within the Sydney area and learned that people are looking but not really buying.
Is this a bad thing ?
I don’t think so as one will be able to get a better deal from those vendors who, for anyone of a number of reasons, are motivated to sell right now.
I would be surprised if the building wasn’t managed by a manager.
The storage space would be hard to resell. And, because of the manager and security probably impossible to have a tenant for the space without having the management involved.
Crackles, obviously I cannot argue the point when you say that no survey is required.
I am however wondering when you use the term ‘although you generally don’t need a survey. Accurate site and floor plans should do’
I am wondering how one would know they are accurate without a surveyor attaching his moniker to the plan ?
It may prove very costly to sell a unit without the dwelling plan having been prepared by a surveyor as the buyer may well come back later on (even years later) and say ‘You told us (via the plan) that the living area is 72 sq. metres. I have had it checked and it is only 64 sq. metres. I therefore make a claim on you for compensation.’
Worse still, the buyer may want the contract rescinded because he was misled !!
My suggestion would be to employ an architect rather than a building surveyor or good builder (to first have a look at the units, particularly in regard to fire safety).
In actual fact, council should be one’s first port of call to find out for example what parking requirements they would be looking for and what landscaping needs to be undertaken so you know right at the beginning, before you have even started yet whether it is feasible to proceed.
So what are the true odds of turning over the same card at the same time in both packs ?
I would have thought we would have some mathemathically minded people here.
Anyway, if no-one is interested in the subject I won’t bother to tell a similar story of how to win money by looking at car number plates.
The odds are some 90% in one’s favour.
BTW Chan, well done (nmice effort – albeit incorrect – if you added up all the numbers in your head. If you used a calculator, I suggest you replace the battery []
Michael, are you at all able to give Wrappack some idea what both the legal setting up cost would be for such an entity (I am talking prospectus here) as well as (in your estimation) the cost of raising the funds (i.e. advertising + manpower) ?
Let us assume Wrappack raises $ 2 M , as a rough figure (I may be way out however) the total cost of achieving that may be say $ 200,000.
I cannot even see it worthwhile the money and the effort to obtain what ultimately is a small sum of money only.
How much can it be done for on the cheap ? I know someone who did all the work involved in preparing the prospectus himself without having a lawyer involved.
One still has the task ahead of publicising the issue.
That particular person happened to have a mailing list
he could use for that purpose.
Have you given any thought at all where you would get your subscribers from Wrappack ?
For anyone to provide some answers it would be helpful to know the following :
Location ?
Land value ?
Construction cost ?
How did you arrive at the amount of construction cost ?
Council aspproval ?
Will you employ a builder to build ?
Your cash contribution ?
To me the choice between the two properties is very clear and easy.
Go for the one at Clayton, purely because of its size.
A property of 30 sq. metres is very difficult to obtain finance for.
If you had asked whether either one appears a good buy
I would say : ‘Absolutely not. You indicate as much yourself by the words you are using : “Location for capital growth not huge.” (Clayton) and “(although serviced apartments dont grow as well” (Richmond).
Pisces
(However, I have been known to be wrong sometimes []
>>All you can do is be fairminded with tenants which means not buying so many houses that you are under pressure in order to become the next property tycoon<<.
Another do-gooder’s ‘wise’ albeit unthinking advice ?
I would have thought, Markpatric, that providing a rental opportunity in and by itself is already ‘doing a rather good deed’.
Are you now telling us to dry up the market of rental properties ? Whose side are you on ? Who or what are you ? A wolf in sheeps clothing ?
What is so difficult to understand about the subject of supply and demand ?
Don’t you know what unavoidably happens if there is a shortage of rental properties ?
Reading the posts on this website I don’t see any evidence of scrooges anxiously at work shaking the last shekel out of people’s pocket.
What I do see are normal working people concerned about providing for their retirement.
LOL I gotta admit…..I love that choc body paint…..but damn its soooo fattening!! [}][}][}]
The cats we have (2 still missing) and the rats are fine!! After losing 2 dogs…….we went and adopted the most sweetest (dumbest, ripping everything up and god help my washing) kelpie cross from the Lost Dogs Home.
Arty is working hard (so he tells me) and hates that he doesnt get time to Forum.
the house………hahahahahaha PLEASE DONT ASK!!! We have had gas leaks and sewerage leaks….the dishwasher is on the fritz and the ducted heating died from god only knows what disease. The gorgeous mutt we saved from Death Row brought home fleas so ALL the animals have them now LOL (I swear Arty wont stop scratching hahahahahaha)
No, no, no, Chan cannot tell us as he told me he isn’t superstitious.
Well, not much. The fact is that most people claim they aren’t (superstitious), yet ………., many appear to have a healthy respect for numbers. (I guess that is ‘just in case’).
Many years ago a chinese got shot (and killed) on the doorstep of his house in Maroubra.
The house went to auction and the family didn’t know how to get rid of the (cursed ?, unlucky ?) house quickly enough.
Internally the house was very much decorated in a typical chinese style (lots of red wallpaper etc. on the walls etc – as you sometimes see in some chinese restaurants) and because of that was attractive to chinese homebuyers.
My friend found a chinese buyer from overseas who exchanged contracts.
After the buyer discovered the house’s history they walked away from the sale losing their 10% deposit.
I joked to my friend that he could make a lot of money by continuing to sell the property to unsuspecting chinese people coming from overseas and, after contracts were exchanged, disclosing what had happened.
That way he could obtain many lots of 10% deposits !!!
(He didn’t. The house eventually got sold to someone of another nationality).