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    >>Many people however refuse to accept what these forms of data analysis do for us (predict) and prefer to try second guess the market.<<

    The word ‘predict’ should be banned in our vocabulary as the consequences of making predictions is that one is inclined to lock oneself into one mindset and thus walk around with blinkers. The effect of these blinkers being that it causes us to minimise and discount the importance of any negative factors.

    It is infinitely better to get into one’s head that we use data to project, rather than to predict.

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    >>Where is it? Because I have seriously never heard of this joint. that tells me it’s probably not ‘close’.<<

    Next time you are in Sydney have a look at a street directory Mini.

    Do not however confuse it with Meadowbank.

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    >>tall, dark, handsome, in possession of a job and money in the bank.<<

    Any age group ?

    So how much would an introduction to someone like that be worth to you Mel ? [:)]

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    I would think that they all would love you Jay.

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    Even if the plans do not show wastes, it doesn’t mean they can be omitted.

    My first call of port would be the council.

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    (Talking about Ashfield NSW) >>i think they are 1 bedders with parking for $199k “ONO”…<<

    Not having seen the units, that price sounds a bargain.

    I have a client who buys blocks of flats (or units), renovates them and thence sells them off.

    He certainly is still in a buying mode and mood. And, he surely doesn’t talk about $ 199 K units.

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    >>And another thing. In my view its never a time for shares.<<

    Yack, shares is just another avenue which allows one to spread the risk.

    The outstanding feature of share investing or trading is that one’s money is immediately accessible.

    The problem with shares is that it requires a lot of knowledge as well as a considerable time spent on keeping an eye on them.

    For most people it is a lot easier to make money in real estate than is the case with shares.

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    For many years there was a mob around flogging off shares in syndicates. They were called something like ‘D.F. Johnston Syndicate No XYZ’ I think.

    Haven’t heard anything about them for years. Does anyone know whether they are still around ?

    I believe they were well established (and probably didn’t have much competition at the time) and were apparently succesfull operators.

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    You may be right Michael though I read Wrappack’s first post as him looking for investors in the form of co-investors whilst you appear to think Wrappack was looking to raise funds as in borrowing money.

    What is it exactly you have in mind Wrappack ?

    The other question is : ‘Do you have a spare $ 100 K to $ 200 K to initially get the ball rolling ?

    And, are you prepared to place that kind of money at risk ?

    The way some syndicators have gone about their business in the past is by tying up a property first via a longish option, long enough to get a plan approved and then raising money via a syndicate and the property being sold into the syndicate at a higher price than the promotor’s actual total outlay, thus providing an upfront profit to the promotor.

    A nice way to have an almost guaranteed end buyer.

    Whether such things would still be allowed to go on I don’t know. I guess it is provided the director’s interest as a seller is disclosed.

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    There is a suburb called Bank’s Meadow which is also very close to Sydney which I wouldn’t be surprised about if that is going to be the next Paddington.

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    Congratz!!!!!!!

    *doing a happy semi naked dance*

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    Alf, to confuse you even more let me ask you a very simple question.

    If you ask a mortgage broker whether he is any good and experienced you can basically receive two answers.

    1. ‘I am very experienced.’

    or

    2. ‘I am no good.’

    My question is, given the choice between these two, which one would you pick, the liar or the honest (though self confessed incompetent) one ? [;)]

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    I wish that those people who pose a question to which one then answers would stay with it and reply.

    Especially if being asked to provide some further information.

    Nothing gives me the s…. more than such type of (mis)behaviour.

    My second wish is that those do-gooders who are so prolific in their condemning of the behaviour of others, so sarcastic in their posts, had the brains, the civility, the decency to respond to a rational comment on their idiotic post.

    Their silence is oftentimes deafening.

    They are only one step removed from the ‘I am right, you are wrong’ attitude of dictators who want to force their opinion onto others and who think that they are the ones who have the Godgiven right to decide how others should live their life.

    They are really invasive bullies, religious zealots at that.

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    Sometimes it is easy to make money. It is also easy to lose it.

    The most important thing is to always keep an eye on the big picture and to learn to listen (and act) on your ‘gut feelings’.

    Don’t let the fact that you are anxious to get started and buy something make you act in a hurry just as one’s fear shouldn’t prevent you from buying something.

    The big quest is to buy something at the right kind of price.

    Forget about people like Weston for example buying 50 houses or more per year. You are you and if you ‘only’ manage to buy one good buy a year don’t punish yourself as you are doing fine.

    One good buy a year may produce more profit and less stress than buying ten houses at a so so price.

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    The interest rate is usually a bit higher than for a home.

    I say ‘Usually’ though I have learned that it is possible to get similar rate as applies to residential.

    The secret (if there is such a thing) doesn’t lie in the lender so much as in the approach to the lender.

    Also, generally the length of the lease to the main tenant determines to a great extent the term of the loan.

    With a bit of luck count on a 10 year loan term.

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    Some are dumb or inexperienced. Some spend a lot of time and work hard at trying to get you set at the right kind of loan. Others don’t go to a lot of trouble.

    The problem is how will you know the guy is good ? [;)]

    It ain’t any good asking them as they all will say they are the best. [:)]

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    >>One thing concerns me though, there are no Floor
    wastes in the bathrooms and laundry except in the
    shower.<<

    Strange.

    Go and see the building inspector at the council before you settle. Plus, tell your solicitor.

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    Paddington, quality, in high demand.

    What is important however is your reason for buying this particular property ?

    I have just been reading some of your posts and am sure you would have to be one of the last persons on this site who would be in need of advice.

    Perhaps you are looking for a reason to justify not to go ahead ?

    It also appears strange to me why you wouldn’t buy such a property outright if you harbour any thoughts of using it for yourself at some stage in your life.

    Yes, I am well aware that this opportunity allows you to not put any deposit into the deal.

    BTW, have you thought about including a clause in your agreement which allows you to sell your part of the property if ever you want out of the partnership ?

    Having such a clause in writing beforehand would go a long way towards avoiding the possibility of any bitterness arising between yourself and your proposed partner in the event one of you wants out.

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    Mel said :”Freedomfinder, I would certainly look at that deal.”

    Apart from the fact that the arithmetic is off.

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    Westan, what is the population for Wanaka ?

    WANAKA is by Lake Wanaka in the Southern Alps and is a predominately
    tourist and holiday centre. Treble Cone and Cardrona skifields are near
    by. The Warbirds Over Wanaka Airshow in April (usually in Easter weekend)
    is an awesome show but unless you’ve booked accommodation you won’t find
    anywhere to stay within 100 kilometres – it’ll probably attract about
    50,000 visitors. There’s the MAZE in Wanaka if you like solving puzzles.
    It is an excellent place to while the day away.

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