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    >>Nowhere in Australia is there a legally mandated level of deposit that must be paid.<<

    One can exchange putting down any amount as long as the vendor agrees.

    However, I believe that if one puts down less than 10% and if subsequently the buyer walks away from his obligations then the vendor can sue for at least the balance of the ten percent.

    (Presumably the vendor may be able to sue for more, I don’t know that bit.)

    Does anyone know ?

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    Hi Russ

    Glad you’re back from your spotting trip. [thumbsupanim]
    Give me a ring or email me ASAP so we can continue our networking and go onto the next step in “cutting a win-win deal”.

    Cheers

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    Hi Russ

    Glad you’re back from your spotting trip. [thumbsupanim]
    Give me a ring or email me ASAP so we can continue our networking and go onto the next step in “cutting a win-win deal”.

    Cheers

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    >>What do ya reckon??<<

    You may be better at it than I Tycoon but my experience is that good deals take quite some time to find.

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    >>Guys be real and try to be sympathetic to the cause.<<

    Which side of the bed did you get up from this morning ?

    A rather unkind remark to make I would think.

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    Hi guys its me again.
    Did the deal today.
    4 brm home $32500
    Rented at $160p/w
    No money down.
    Ah I love this game.
    Russ

    Congratulations, Russ. It’s the Qld guy who rang you a few days ago for a 1 hour chat plus follow up email!. And I was just about to ring you to see if we could cut a deal on that one![grad]

    I’ll be in touch about other +CF deals we might be able to do together.

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    Hi Mortgage Hunter, Derek and Forum devotees

    Thanks heaps. [thumbsupanim]

    I logged onto Mortgage Hunter’s link re FHOG and noted Permanent Resident’s DO qualify. Our friend’s issue is that she doesn’t know whether she’s actually classified as a Permanent Resident or not (she’s never filled out any paperwork, but we assume since she’s on Centrelink benefits SOMETHING must be okay by the Australian government). Do you know of any websites we can research the qualifying conditions for Permanent Residency?

    Derek, we’ve vaguely heard about “First Start”, but you clearly understand more about it than myself. Do you have any further information about it (eg., websites etc)?

    You’re right about her savings ethic. She has $18,000 – $20,000 cash saved up (some in term deposits, and about $5,000 literally “in a sock”)

    As my wife and I’ve never done a wrap before, but have 16 “buy and hold” properties (12 positively geared), frankly we’d prefer to go into a mini-business with her in 2 or 3 small +CF properties which would not affect her Centrelink income, but give her a much more attractive ROI. Her cash plus our lending ability plus an added equity percentage as a gift from us over and above the percentage of actual cash she puts up. If we saved and reinvested the +CF profits from these properties each week, we’d soon have enough cash saved up to put down deposits on other properties which she would also get further benefits from, all without jeopardising her Centrelink.

    Any further input and comments from you guys would be much appreciated.

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    Jancrows said : Procrastination = Wisdom . A formula derived from one who has made mistakes and wont act until he has resolved all the lessons he has learnt and ………..considers the next move. Makes a decision and goes forth in confidence……….

    That sounds a bit like rationalisation to me, an excuse for inaction.

    How do others see this ??

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    Kay I guess it is a process over time.

    My main problem, more than anything else is that I put off necessary tasks like filing etc. And the price I pay is high (too high) as it takes me much more time to find things than if I were more organised.

    On the other hand I don’t mind working long hours and I won’t complain about that, mainly because no one wants to hear me moan.

    But seriously now Kay, I am trying but am not perfect as yet.

    As far as the lecture is concerned I have taken great interest in trying to understand what motivates us (and as part of that why we often have a great lack of motivation), usually to our own detriment.

    So, no, I am not perfect yet. but will let you know when I rweach that stage.

    I have actually had a call from Bear who wanted to bottle it and sell it to those lazy sods who need it.

    I don’t think motivation will work in a liquid form though. [wink]

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    You know the saying George, ‘All work and no play makes …………..’

    There isn’t anything wrong with a bit of diversion. Balance is what is required.

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    From ‘The Daily reckoning’ a daily newsletter dedicated to shares and the economy and in this case talking about Greenspan and deflation : “As they used to say in the Soviet Union: ‘nothing is to be believed until it is officially denied.’”

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    >>However, this may open you (and your client) up to attack by the authorities if they make a decision that the rental assistance monies were to be only for rent and not to assist in purchase. <<

    I see it in the light of someone saving towards an eventual purchase.

    Even the government eventually wins as that person eventually will get off the treadmill of getting rent assistance.

    If one compares what someone who is saving part of his money via a lease option does to what someone else does who spends ‘all his money’ instead of setting something aside towards an eventual purchase.

    BTW, I use the term ‘all his money’ cautiously because the person on Social Security doesn’t receive a whole lot of money. It is a bare existence.

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    Aliens ? You mean immigrants ?

    Nah, the Italian and Chinese marketgardeners are no longer working nor are their children prepared to do back breaking work.

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    One way to reduce the risk is to make sure the property is strata titled rather than all of the units being on the one title.

    I bet right now, sight unseen, that the building doesn’t comply with fire regulations.

    Probably an older style building with timber floors.

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    Well, one certainly couldn’t build a unit for
    80 K.

    Kay suggested the following :

    >>Re your last question, if you see something you consider a good deal, why not go for it? 400k is a reasonable investment for 5 properties :) <<

    However, a commitment of $ 400 K is a large commitment in anyone’s book so what if one were wrong and it is a white elephant ?

    Will it be a case of ‘Act in haste and repent in leisure’ ?

    I would rather play safe than be adventurous. But that is me.

    I am no longer young enough to (think I can afford to) take unknown risks.

    Of course no-one on this site really knows which town you are talking about as you haven’t disclosed it.

    I certainly would want to know a lot more about the town and would spend several days in the town talking to the locals before making a move.

    Better to run the chance of missing out than to make a mistake.

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    What would it cost me? Extra legal fees, extra running around and the general nuisance of it all. I’ve no intention to put myself out (especially out of pocket), for anyone – and I wouldn’t expect anyone to do that for me. There have already been extra solicitor hours that I can’t recoup. Would you really do that just to keep a buyer happy? Why should I worry about her happiness?

    She had the chance to save herself a lot of money – but chose to be selfish about it. All she had to do was throw me a bone (cover costs even) – but in the end it was her call. So be it.

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    Well, I’ve been informed through my solicitor that the buyer has no wish to split the difference – so I’ve told him to proceed with the original contract – meaning the buyer has to pay the full stamp duty amount. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face…!! [biggrin]

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    Just remember, don’t trust anyone – get everything in writng.

    One needs to take it one step further i.e. read
    and understand the agreement – before, not after.

    It stands to reason that interest is due for the money which is drawn.

    That can be capitalised provided there is some undrawn money left in the overdraft account.

    I am not pro banks but I think the heading of this post is unfair.

    The problem more likely than not appears not to have been caused by the bank so much as because of the borrower’s misunderstanding of the conditions of the agreement.

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    The link doesn’t work Stuart

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    Wrappack, it will take the best part of six months (if you are lucky) for you to have council consent in your hands.

    Say one month for a surveyor and an architect to do their task, and four months to get council approval. That takes care of five months.

    Then you need to spent some time to get quotes from builders so there goes at least another month.

    So after say six months the construction commences. It may take six months or so to complete.

    So if you were to start tomorrow you are looking at a completion date of one year from now !!!!

    Long enough for circumstances to have changed for you ??

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