Aaron, I have been using Mailwasher at work and it’s been working really well. I used to get 30+ spam per day, but now only about 1 to 3 sneak through. You can make it bounce spam, (but they usually have bogus addresses) but the best part is you can set it so that you don’t even see them. It takes a bit of fine tuning with your blacklist and filters, and you have to be careful not to bounce your friends. You can get the basic version for free, but you’ll need the pro version (still fairly cheap) to be able to look at multiple email accounts, and to get a preview panel. The freebie is available at: http://www.mailwasher.net/ and the pro version at: http://www.firetrust.com/
regards, Jim
Just don’t get overcommited Investron! A lot of us are going to have egg on our face if interest rates hike back up to 17% again. That 5 year fixed rate of 6.5% is starting to look a bit tempting, because I don’t have much leeway in my cash flow. It’s getting easier every year though. Lucky I’ve been putting a bit away in the form of principal![]
I’m glad to hear that other people are waiting too.. I havn’t purchased anything all year and I am starting to feel worried that I am being left behind![^]
I’m afraid that today I think the prices are over-inflated, however, tomorrow, I will wish that I bought more today as they were soo cheap![]
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The only thing is (and I haven’t followed previous threads and thus may be a dumb question), what does the POW formula do?
ie POW((1+r),n)
Thanks for your response EZ. The formula above is just (1+r) to the nth power. Its just how it’s expressed in the database language (Paradox Application Language). It’s just what happens when you compound interest, ie if you’ve got 7% interest, then the loan will increase at 1.07 X 1.07 X 1.07 after 3 years, ie (1 + .07) to the power 3, except for the part you pay off.
It’s difficult to display the formulas in this text only forum, and difficult to display code when it strips off leading spaces. Hopefully you can see how the code is bracketed.
A good website reference for the discount formulas can be found at http://www.eng.ufl.edu/home/env5075/envdocs/econfac.htm It displays them properly with superscripts etc.
I’m sure it’s not over your head Peter, its just compound interest as I’ve shown above. You don’t really need to know exactly how the formulas are derived anyway. All financial calculators and spreadsheets have most of them built in. All bank (etc) websites have calculators to derive repayments. I’m just highlighting the effect when you bring all payments back to present worth, and mainly the fact that the loan doesn’t really cost you much in real terms if it’s tax deductible at 48.5%. Silly as it sounds, paying principal back in this situation doesn’t actually change your net worth much in real terms, as it is only a 3 to 4% investment after tax, and that is negated by inflation.
I guess it’s all about risk. You can pay down your principal to reduce your exposure to increased interest rates, or park it in an offset account which does the same thing, or put into an investment that pays at least 7% after tax.
I guess I’ve compromised with 30 year loans, because (a) paying principal “feels” better and (b) I managed to buy 4 properties, all negatively geared that I could only just afford at the time. It would have been easier with IO loans.
Sorry to ramble on. Hopefully some food for thought.
Jim.
Hi Rebecca
i live at Thornton, contact me if you like?
i have not invested in any, off the plan
developments, i have seen people make
heaps of money and some break even.
Some great develops have happened and some
great ones in the pipe line.
But you would be better talking to someone
that has put money on the table.
i like your thoughts hgwells. i’m in
the phone book a group get together would be great.
how bout getting your property depreciated? usually that offsets the +ve gain you are getting, however, that would depend on your property itself and how old it is…
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All ya need is a Year 10 Certificate for a wage job. I’m not in prop mgmnt, but had considered it many times as opposed to sales. 4 family members have been/are in the Real Estate game since the ’70s. Guess I have had influence from older brothers. Anyway, contact your REI office as a start. Courses are available to understand the law. e.g. A tenant is responsible for light globes; but a tenant also has more rights when it comes to vacating a lease. Licensing will sort the men from the boys if you choose to start up your own office, especially as there is in my opinion an over supply of agents. Commercial leasing operates differently somehow from residential. I’m not afeau’ (sic) with the conjunction/leasing/listing agreements here. This might be another specialised area for you to consider.
Failing that, just jump in. I considered offering my time free (on holidays from wage job) to learn prop mgmnt. If you’re keen, who would knock you back if you offered say a month of your time to them?
Keep thinking .. kind regards Phil
Thanks Lucky Phil for your reply,
What kind of qualifications do I need to have?
Are you in Property Manangement yourself?
I’m thinking of starting out in a Real Estate Agency in Property Management there.
Do any of you buy in different states to effectively combine the land tax thresholds? I’m just under the Qld threshold, and I’m assuming I get a new threshold for say NSW properties, ie the total values in each state are treated independently. Sorry it’s a bit of a digression.
Jim.
Hey, congrats on the job! I would like a new job too, however, I think that I am too comfortable where I am. I think that I could jump jobs and earn like 20k more, however, I think that I would actually have to start doing some work! here, I spend half my time on the net, and if I happen to find a nice IP while I am at it.. )…(I hope none of my employers see this)[]
I could earn much, much more than 20k, and I am doing way, way less.. (I found my last set of units while at ‘work’ and it has recently over doubled, plus giving me a small but passive income)..
so all in all, I think that I am better off earning less and doing less and finding IPs in the meantime…
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thanks for that comment Mcdeyees.. I understand totally what you mean. I have just heard, (don’t know if it is true or not) but units in the Sydney CBD are set to fall.. they are totally overpriced and under-tenanted… and that there should be many mortgagee sales coming in the next year or so.. should be interesting… I would like to be ready when that happens.
I guess it should not make a difference if I sell some IPs now or just use the equity later.. []
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Thanks VH. As I wrote above, I couldn’t find any mention of it in the ATO website. It should be clarified, as it could make a $30,000 difference to your capital gain.
Jim.
I think that my main concern is that I think that the prices might be going slowing down or even going down soon. However, the more I think about it, the more I think that I shouldn’t sell.. as I will have to pay loads of tax and do not really require the money anyways. The properties are sort of positive, so I don’t really have to worry about them financially.[]
It just looked like a good idea to get out before everyone else started getting out aswell and the market is saturated with sellers instead of buyers![]
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Hi Arty, I once used a smaller lender which was an unpleasant experience. They charged me an extra $900 for loan costs (I had to pay for their solicitor which was never mentioned in initial consultations) plus they had a little $700 sting in the tail if I refinanced within 3 years, plus their statments were an amateruish shambles, their website never agreed with the statements, and pre-paying interest was far too complex for them. I waited for 3 years and refinanced them and all my other loans into a single professional package with Westpac.
I’m very happy with them so far, although I haven’t tried to get finance for another property through them yet. I get 0.7% interest discount 5.97% from 6.67%), no ongoing fees, zero establishment fees for new loans (normally $600) and no annual fees (normally $199pa) for each account. The package costs me $300 pa however. I also get 100% offset accounts with each of my two loans. I’ve set them at 30 years P&I which is not too different to IO, but I can switch it easily if I wish.
Other banks offer professional packages I believe. I’m not sure how they compare. Qualification criteria may be different also.
Jim.
Because mencsh has ignored my question I finally asked my accountant about the fittings depreciation. It’s very simple really, our cost base is decreased by $1 for every $1 we claim as a deduction, and increased by $1 for every $1 we spend on new fittings we have replace during the ownership of the property. His wording was a little different, but that’s the result.
In mencsh’s example above then, $5k was claimed for depreciation of fittings, but only $3k was added to the CG (not CGT mencsh!). This means that $2k was spent on new fittings at some stage. Is this what you meant mencsh?
Jim.
Hi Prop16, funny how nobody has factored in depreciation in the analysis. I estimate you would be able to claim about $11k to $13k in the first year alone, dropping to about half that in 4 to 5 years. The effect depends on your tax bracket of course.
Jim.
To make money in property management, I believe the answer is in owning the rent roll. Wages are not good, so you need to own the risk. If you have time to spare, do both. An owner may move back to the house or change agents, but therein lays the value/risk. Rent rolls run at about $2-3,000 per house. Do the sums. Buy a 100 props management at $2000 each. Average rental say $200 a week. Standard management fees of 10%. That’s $100,000 a year self managed under a license. OR .. do a deal. Using an agents license, buy all or part of the rent roll. Go halves in the fees. Both win. Cash injection for the Licensee and a 25% return for the both of you before outgoings.I want one. Cons – maybe difficult to borrow against a rent roll without putting up another asset and risk of loss is based on the fickle choice of the vendors; Pros – great return and a base to build on.
Regards, Phil
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Lawry,
Im in IT as well…Analyst Programmer….hate it with a passion
Wanna Change Career…
Wondering any property Managers out there..
Whats involved getting into the Real Estate Properety Management area.
Can someone tell me the Pros and Cons
Oops, sorry about that Chief!! I will get the hang of this, I promise. Apart from your handle Agent86, I’m at about the same point as you. I’ve read the book and am gathering info. Hope to share some insights. Regards, Phil
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Hi Guys, first time posting but have enjoyed viewing the forum posts for a couple of weeks now. I’m also in IT (for a large law firm in Melb.)
Like some of the other IT people here, I’m bored!!! and I want to live an extraordinary life.
Haven’t purchased any IP’s as yet, but I have just finished Steve’s book.
Look forward to chatting with you guys in the future.
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