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Hi Paul
Feel free. Anytime is fine.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Scott
No, it has no "put" component to it. It's just a "call" option that we've modified significantly because, when we first started doing these transactions, we were frustrated by both the vendor and the final buyer seeing the complete transaction.
We figured that we'd negotiated a price that the vendor was happy with and likewise, the final purchaser, so why should we use paperwork that makes our profit completely visible to all concerned. This is pretty much like investors who undertake "flips". They don't want their "purchase" and "sell" prices disclosed to the other parties.
With this in mind, we utilised the services of two law firms to end up with what we finally wanted and it works for us. Thanks.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Dan
We operate mainly in NSW and, as far as we know, there's nothing stopping us from making multiple offers. Of course, as always, check with your solicitor.
In fact we use the concept of multiple offers and a time limit on our offers, to insert some urgency into the transacction, e.g.:
"Good Until: 10am Tuesday, xxth May, 200x. Please be aware that we are making multiple offers."
Good luck.Cheers, Paul
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Hi Lou
My guess would be that it's more usual for the purchaser's solicitor/conveyancer to pay the stamp duty prior to settlement but, as you can see, lenders sometimes offers to do this. Just check with your conveyancer, to see what she had planned.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Paulyp
The challenge with a traditional option is that the final purchaser usually finds out what you optioned the property for. If you're looking for an easy sale, you need to be able to give your final purchaser a standard contract of sale, not an Assignment of Option form (as with a standard option).
We use a system of legal paperwork that prevents the final purchaser knowing what price you're controlling the property for, i.e. it's an option but it's very different from a traditional real estate "call option".
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Khiem
We are still using both Lease/Options (Rent To Own) and Wraps (Installment Sales Contracts) in the current market. We find that it's the particulars of each property transaction that steer us towards one of the many vendor finance strategies. Not so much, the economice situation. However starting off with just one (or two) strategies is a good way to get going.
To ensure that you know the difference between a Wrap and a Lease/Option, may I suggest you have a look at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps and
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-optionsAnother interesting resource to read concerning Vendor Finance, in real estate, in Australia is:
http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/page28.htmlGood luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Charlie
To ensure that you know the difference between a Wrap and a Lease/Option, may I suggest you have a look at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps and
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-optionsIf we go back to your question on Wraps (Instalment Sales Contracts) you can pretty much structure them in whatever way you think is most ethical for you. This is done by simply instructing your lawyer accordingly while she is drawing up the legal paperwork.
Another important point about Instalment Sales Contracts is, when you sell a property with an Instalment Sales Contract, you are regarded as "supplying credit". Therefore all your legal paperwork must comply with the Uniforn Consumer Credit Code and you must abide by all the Code's requirements. This is the same Code that Banks, Building Societies, etc have to conform with.
Another interesting resource to read concerning Vendor Finance, in real estate, in Australia is:
http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/page28.htmlGood luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi John
I believe you rang Karen this afternoon. I'll be back in Australia tomorrow (Tuesday) lunchtime. Give me a call on 0447 973 235 and we'll talk about that idea. Thanks.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi JNM
The challenge with a traditional option is that the final purchaser usually finds out what you optioned the property for. If you're looking for an easy sale for $800K, you need to be able to give your final purchaser a standard contract of sale for $800K, not an Assignment of Option form (as with a standard option).
We use a system of legal paperwork that prevents the final purchaser knowing what price you're controlling the property for, i.e. it's an option but it's very different from a traditional real estate call option.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi hitambakar
The one we use is 11 pages.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi JNM
To complish what you want to achieve, you need to "control' the property (without actually buying it), along with the right to on sell at a higher price.
As part of our Vendor Finance buisness, my wife and I do this regularly. If you would like to talk, our phone number is bleow. Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi
There is no such thing, in legal terms, as a rent-to-own contract. A rent to own/buy purchase is usually accomplished with:
1. A residential lease agreement and
2. An option to buy agreementThese two pieces of paperwork will definitely be more than 4 or 5 pages. We operate in NSW but a lot of our Vendor Financier friends in Vic reccommend Lewis O'Brien. His phone number is 03 9888 6388.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Gav
Karen and I do a lot of vendor finance joint ventures but the first question we always ask is why? The property you mention looks to have $70k of equity in it and I'm sure it would help all the experienced Vendor Financiers here, to know what your motivation is for selling the property, with or without vendor finance, i.e. with a wrap or a L/O.
Once we have an idea of your motivation, I'm sure other options will be put forward and you can look at what suits, e.g. you may take some equity of of this property and buy another property, especially for wrapping, L/O purposes. This way you retain the on going capital gain in your existing property.
Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Gav H
As Tamar mentions above, one way to get a positive return in real estate, without relying on your income, is to consider the "Seller Financing" section of the residential real estate market.
Let's then look at the example of one of our Joint Venture partners. He paid $17,526 to buy a $230,000 house which we have on sold for him using Seller (Vendor) Financing. The house now generates $212 per month positive cashflow for him. He is also getting $97 per month to cover the interest on the $17,526 he's invested.
When we refinance the new purchasers into a traditional loan, in two to three years, he will get somewhere between $14,000 and $15,800 as a gross payout.
Good luck with your research.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Sanjiie
We use positive cashflow properties to support our higher capital growth, negatively geared properties. More specifically, we use Vendor Finance as our positive cashflow technique and utilise this cashflow to build wealth in our buy and holds. Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Ian
Overton Insurance Brokers have had a Vendor Finance Policy for quite a number of years now. It is underwritten by Australian Unity. It fully declares in the policy that the property is being purchased via vendor finance, by your wrapees and shows all the relevent "interested parties".
We normally deal with Stella Tolios at Overton, on 03 9499 7411. Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Beck
Is the unit currently tenanted? The reason I ask is because a couple of months ago we succeeded with a long distance lease/option (rent to buy) sale in North Parramatta. Drop me a PM if you'd like further details. Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi again AdoubleU
As you are thinking of becoming involved in vendor finance, you may be interested to learn a little of its history in Australia. A great commentary on this subject can be found at:
http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/page28.html Then scroal down to "A Century of use for the sale of Real Estate in Australia".Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi AdoubleU
WA has its very own rule about real estate Instalment Sales Contracts (often called Wraps), i.e. WA requires that you have a Credit Provides licence if you are going to provide Instalment Sales Contracts within the State.
We are not WA based but our vendor finance friends in WA tell us that the licence is easy to get and not too much of a pain at all. Good luck.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Becky
This link should help:
http://www.mortgageworldaustralia.com.au/calculators/amortisation_calculator2.htmCheers, Paul
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