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  • Profile photo of Paul DobsonPaul Dobson
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    Hi PJ

    Yes we still have a number of -cf buy & holds but these are in areas we think have good capital gain prospects.  Others, that have been -cf in the past have now move forward to neutral and positive.

    Yes setting up a JV / Mentor arrangement in Perth is quite possible.  Please PM me or call.

    Cheers,  Paul 

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    Hi Tracey

    If you'd like to have a read of some great information from a VF specialist lawyer, have a look at:
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au

    However Tony, is a NSW based and you're looking for a Victorian specialist. We use Lewis O'Brien for our Vic transactions. His contact details are:
    Lewis O’Brien & Associates
    Suite 113
    89 High Street
    Kew Victoria 3101
    phone: 03 9888 6388
    email: [email protected]

    Cheers, Paul

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    Hi realdream

    If you'd like to learn about real estate vendor finance in Australia, I suggest you do a search for Vendor Finance here and in the Somersoft forum.  You'll get an immense amount of reading material in both these forums.

    A few web resources that may help in your search for information about vendor finance are:
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
    http://www.jvpropertypartners.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=75
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/
    http://www.vendorfinance.asn.au/   The Vendor Finance Association of Australia
    http://www.vendorfinanceinstitute.com.au

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi PJ

    On average we work it so that one property sold with a vendor finance Instalment Contract will support one buy and hold of approximately the same value.

    For most of our JV partners this turns into two +cf properties to one buy & hold while they're learning, i.e. most of our JV partners want to learn how to "do it" so they share the profit from their first one or two +cf properties.  After that they should be in a position to "go solo" and get into a one for one position.

    This allows them to have a "hands on" learning experience, as against sitting in a room with many others, learning the theory.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi PJ

    Unfortunately I don't know of any VF specific forums in OZ.  However if you do a search for Vendor Finance here and in the Somersoft forum, you'll get an immense amount of reading material.  Also, I don't know of any specific books on Vendor Finance in Australia but a few web resources that may help in your search for information about vendor finance are:
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
    http://www.jvpropertypartners.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=75
    http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/
    http://www.vendorfinance.asn.au/   The Vendor Finance Association of Australia
    http://www.vendorfinanceinstitute.com.au

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Corza

    We started our Vendor Finance business on a part time basis and as it grew Karen, my wife, moved into it full time, followed by me later.  Of course we could have stayed part time if we'd wanted but it had been our dream to have our own business for many years and, after many false starts in other business enterprises, we obviously got our heads right for this business and took all the action that was necessary.  Although we have seen people go full time more quickly than us  ;-)

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "come rates time" but, if you mean council and water rates, the vendor finance buyers pay all the rates.  If you mean how do we handle paying the negative cash flow each month on our -cf properties, our +cf properties pays all that, along with paying for our lifestyle.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Corza

    We've found using both both positive and negative cash flow properties has helped us to accelerate our portfolio building.

    Our +cf properties are properties we buy and on-sell with vendor finance and our -cf properties are the properties we plan to hold forever ;-) Our +cf properties maintain our lifestyle and support the -cf on our long term buy and holds.

    We've bought and sold lots of our +cf properties but not sold any of our buy and holds. They're our long term wealth. The +cf properties, for us, are just a cash flow business, just like any other business you might own.

    Using vendor finance to help our portfolio building works for us and we certainly enjoy being able to fix the cash flow and capital gain on some of our properties.

    Cheers, Paul

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    Hi Clint

    We too use Tony Cordato.  His contact details are:
    Cordato Partners
    Level 5, 49 York Street
    Sydney NSW 2000
    P (02) 8297 5600
    F (02) 9290 2784

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Vony

    I agree with both Richard and Terry.  I'd also suggest that you make sure you get the legal paperwork drawn up by a solicitor that works with VF regularly.  He/she could save you a lot of money and can quickly let you know of the latest "best practice" when it comes to VF.

    If you'd like the details of a VF savvy solicitor in your State, let me know.  Hopefully you're not in S.A. as S.A. is the only State in Australian that makes it very difficult to conduct VF transactions.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Darryl

    You mention your living a a growing town with a population of 5,500.  This size town would probably support at least one vendor finance (VF) transaction, i.e. buy a "standard" family home and, instead of renting it, on-sell it with the help of VF.

    This type of transaction will typically give you positive cash flow at three points, i.e. the deposit as the new VF buyers move in, approximately $500 per month positive cash flow (after all property expenses) and a back-end profit when the VF buyers refinance into a traditional loan.  The back-end profit is the difference between what you buy the place for and what you on-sell it for, with VF, less what the VF buyers pay off while they're with you.

    Another interesting point about this type of transaction, is that the profit generated by the complete transaction, will often be sufficient to buy two more of the same.  For us, fixing our positive cash flow and our capital gain has been great for future planning.  It's meant that we haven't had to rely on market driven capital gain and rentals.  Sure we might miss a boom or two but they've been a bit thin on the ground in NSW of late  ;-)

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi D

    Sounds very suss to me.  I recommend you have a talk with Steve Harvey at the Harvey Law Firm in Argenton.  Steve is a real straight shooter.  His contact details are:

    Harvey Law Firm – Solicitors and Conveyancers
    Postal:  Box 3042, Glendale NSW 2285
    Phone:  (02) 4958 8889

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Actually the Polies are just catching up with what has been a talking point in the Lending world ever since the NCCP Act came in, i.e. Exit Fees have to reflect the real administrative cost of closing a loan and should not include fees for lost business opportunity.  Even ASIC's Regulatory Guides have been indicating this.

    Obviously there is an administrative cost for closing a home loan/mortgage and if the polies think that banning exit fees will stop this administrative cost from being passed on, they're dreaming ;-)

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Lora

    I've always used a Broker and always will.  It just makes sense to me that a bank will try to minimise their risk by tying you up with things like cross collateralisation that will greatly reduce your flexibility as your portfolio grows.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi James

    In relation to your question about whether you can buy a property on a Bridging Visa, I suggest you have a read of the Foreign Investment Review Board's brochure "Buying a Home in Australia" at:
    http://www.firb.gov.au/content/publications/buying_a_home.pdf

    Once you've ascertained if you can buy, I'm sure there are a lot of people here on the forum that will be able to give you information concerning the various operating Structures available.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Asoka

    My experience as an expat allowed me to get a USD denominated loan from one of the Australian Big 4 Banks but this was only allowed if my income was paid in USD's (which it was).  This effectively shielded me from exchange rate risk.

    If your income is earned in AUD's, I don't know of an Australian or US Lender that will give you a USD home loan, for an Australian property.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    I've been watching the various protests from local residents, protesting that the new NRAS projects are the slums of the future and they don't want them in their area.  I think I'll stay away.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Justine

    Sure.  Feel free to give me a call.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi justine08

    Yes we have been doing vendor finance transactions since 2003 and we're very happy we got into the business.

    I've got to agree with all the comments here, especially Richard's comment that somewhere along the way, you are going to need "some" money.

    One person also mentioned the "terrier" idea.  We call them "bird dogs" ;-)  They bring prospective transactions to the table and, if the transaction works, we do it on a JV basis with the "bird dog".  For one person we're currently working with it has worked and we're onto our second transaction with him.  However I'm surprised at his "stickability" as he's bought a lot of transactions to the table but only two have gone ahead.  And it's cost him a lot of time and transport costs.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Mario

    I'd suggest you have a JV Agreement for each project.  As a number of people are putting great faith in you by putting up the funds, I think the last thing you need to do is try to draw up the JV Agreement yourself.

    The first JV we got drawn up by a solicitor cost us $450.  It would cost a bit more now but, with the right solicitor, you'll learn a lot about JV Agreements.

    Considering your current uncertainty about an appropriate structure, i.e. loan, JV, company, trust and MOU, maybe let the forum know what State you're in and we can recommend a good solicitor.

    Cheers,  Paul

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    Hi Martin

    Tom Forster from Litigation Law Queensland does a lot of Lease/Options.  He should be able to help.  Tom's contact details are:
    Tom Forster
    Litigation Law Queensland
    PO Box 777 Main Beach Qld 4217
    Phone: 0428 777 007
    Fax: 5591 5571
    Email: [email protected]

    Cheers,  Paul

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