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Hi PaperChaser
Banks tend to get off peoples backs when loan repayments get caught up and repayments become regular again. If you can buy a couple traditionally, more power to you.
However I like to buy properties with as little of my money in the transaction as possible. I'm not saying that you don't give the vendors a fair price, you do. You just negotiate with the vendor on how long you can take to pay off your debt to them and the repayment schedule that fits that arrangement. With that done and the necessary National Credit Code checks complete, you ask the solicitor to draw up the Instalment Contract for you. And you make sure that both parties get independent legal advice.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi NHG
If the mother sells the property to her daughter with either a vendor finance Lease/Option or Instalment Contract she should not have to pay CGT straight away. In relation to a Lease/Option, often called a Rent To Own, the property is not 'sold' for CGT purposes until the Option is 'exercised' and the sale is completed (settled). Obviously it's then up to the mother and daughter to set the term of both the Lease and the Option.
A similar situation, with regard to CGT, also applies to a sale with an Instalment Contract. See ATO Interpretive Decision 2004/407 at: http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=AID/AID2004407/00001
In regard to your alternative 'b', it's generically called Deposit Finance. It's not as easy to get across the line as it used to be before the GFC and the new National Credit Code but there are still a few lenders who'll look at it.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Chris
It's been mentioned by Luke above and I too would suggest your friend look at selling one or two with vendor finance. If you're able to buy one or two traditionally this may not be necessary but, if you can't get the finance, s/he may be able to sell you one or two with an Instalment Contract.
Your mention of a vendor finance transaction above is more like a Lease/Option (Rent To Own). An Instalment Contract is more fully described at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
The information on Rent To Own's is at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
Cheers, Paul
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Hi PFrankyX
Leaving you with an approximate tax saving (not including medicare levy) of $16,200 and a resultant loss for the year of about $28,800 for the 3 properties. Hopefully Capital Gain was kind to you.
Cheers, Paul
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They sell the NSW version at: http://www.smokeball.com.au/ProductInfo/2649/P/9026/34058001
Cheers, Paul
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Thanks Richard. As usual, great information
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Allan
Why not get your friend to see if the owners of the block would sell it to him with vendor finance. My guess is he'd probably have to offer a premium price to the owners but they don't seem to have a very sale-able asset and they might be able to work a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi hjseo
I don't have a course for sale but I'd suggest you read a thread on the subject at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forums/property-investing/creative-investing/4324169Cheers, Paul
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Hi Johna
Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your time here.
As you are fairly new I'd suggest you have a good read of the information on this website about flips. It's at:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/flips
I believe it will answer your questions.Cheers, Paul
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Hi Martin
As Rent To Buy is one of the 3 most popular vendor finance (VF) strategies and because there are a couple of misconceptions above, I suggest you do some general research about VF. Some suggested places to start are:
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/wraps
https://www.propertyinvesting.com/strategies/lease-options
http://negative2positive.com.au/information/about-vendor-finance
http://www.vendorfinancelawyer.com.au/vendor_finance_intro.htm
http://www.vendorfinance.asn.auThe second link above is the one about Rent To Buy's, i.e. a Lease along with an Option.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi yofruity
We often help people who are suffering from a small amount of negative equity (mortgage larger than value) with our negative2positive vendor finance (VF) process. However 'upside down' to the tune of $100,000 is too much negative equity to handle, even for VF.
Yours is the second time in a week I've run across negative equity in the $100K range and trying to mark up the price of the property that much, for a VF sale, just isn't going to work.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Kathryn
A few friends have good things to say about:
Despina Priala
Director, Priala Legal
Property Development Lawyer, Qld
Mobile: 0400 141 269Cheers, Paul
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Hi Zac
As I mentioned my VF contacts in SA are pretty well non existent. However if you can contact a vendor financier in SA, give him/her a call and ask if they would be interested in receiving referrals from you.
We have a couple of people who are great net-workers and they refer frustrated landlords to us who are looking to try to turn their IP(s) from negative gearing to positive cash flow. Possibly you could work out a similar referral arrangement.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Jay
Here is the information for Qld:
http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/fair-and-safe-work/electrical-safety/for-householders-and-consumers/safety-switches/safety-switches-and-domestic-rental-propertiesCheers, Paul
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Hi Zac
I haven't answered your post earlier as I've specifically kept away from SA due to it's difficulties with vendor finance. I believe some people are still trying to make Lease/Options work there but they are 'somewhat' modified and, possibly, operating in a 'grey' area. Happily 'deposit finance' is still allowed.
A good friend of ours , who had been building his VF business in SA for years, finally threw his hands up in the air a couple of years ago and moved to Vic so he could operate in a more friendly VF environment. Are you stuck with operating in SA?
Cheers, Paul
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Hi A
We use Gumtree to advertise the properties we have for sale with vendor finance (VF), i.e. Lease/Options and Instalment Contracts. We also know vendor financiers that use Agents to sell their VF properties.
Could you give us a bit more information about the project and your marketing thoughts?
Cheers, Paul
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We use Office Autopilot but we found a good place to start was it's little brother Sendpepper. Have a look at:
http://sendpepper.com?ref=450576Disclosure. That's our affiliate link.
Cheers, Paul
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Hi John
You may get a better price for the business if you offer some form of vendor finance. A couple a friends of mine just bought businesses in Qld with vendor finance. One was a plant nursery, the other a fish & chip shop.
You could offer to vendor finance the whole business, via an Instalment Contract or a Lease/Option, or you could offer to partially finance the business with Deposit Finance. Either way you do open up the purchase of your business to a lot more people and because it is a business, the transaction wouldn't be regulated by the National Credit Code.
Cheers, Paul
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I agree with Matt
Cheers, Paul
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Hi Liam
As we use this model all the time with our JV Property Partners business, I can confirm our experience is the same as Richard and Terry outline above.
When you purchase the property, you pay Stamp Duty. For the on-selling of the property, NSW requires Stamp Duty to be paid within 90 days of 'exchange of contracts'. As you 'exchange contracts' prior to the VF buyer taking possession, you are required to pay Stamp Duty within 90 days of that 'exchange'.
Cheers, Paul
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