Sorry to hear that the banks gave you the run around over there and wasted your money. I was wondering what happened to your beachfront property so thanks for your post.
And if you're thinking of going to Detroit or Atlanta, you really need to see the most recent Case Shiller graphs for those cities. They seem to be in free-fall….
I'm familiar with both cities. On paper they look like bargains, but the housing stock thats left is worn out, the tenants are the worst possible types, itinerant, dangerous, drug dealing, thieves (they will steal floating floors and coppers). Ever seen a whole 92 unit apartment block trashed AND burnt? There is an old hotel for sale now in detroit at $89k its run down and there is mould and water everywhere. There is no upside on either of these towns until the main problems get fixed. And detroit isnt changing anything even with the new (supposedly uncorrupt) mayor. I'm sure there will be books on what Detroit was. But at the moment its not going to do anything to recover. Let it die and take your money to places where it will do something within your lifetime.
I remember looking at the Victorian town of Moe .. waay back in 1986-1987 and thinking .. wow .. these places are 20-25k per unit WOW cheap! Fact is .. its now 2011 and the town of moe still has the best el-cheapo units (now only 65-100k) still the cheapest on the market. Think of where your money could have been working better in the meantime. And Moe has some of the nicer aspects of bad tenancies. But nothing like Detroit.
Well said ! A lot of people compare these places to our capital cities and think they are cheap. Your example of Moe is a good one.
Hi everyone who's kept this thread alive during my absence from the site. I'm now back in Miami, staying in a small rented apartment near Miami Beach. I have my wife and two babies with me, which is quite a handful.
If any of you've followed my posts from the last time I was in Miami, you'll recall I became obsessed with a water front property (facing the intercoastal waterway, but just a few blocks from Miami Beach). It came on the market at the end of October 2010, and it was a hot REO, attracting so many bids that the bank closed the bidding after about a week. Even though I put in a bid 25% higher than the asking price, I didn't get it. Someone must have bid much higher than me.
It turns out that the person who won the bidding pulled out of the purchase during the inspection period (that's a period the banks give you to decide whether to go ahead with the purchase: if you pull out during this phase you get your full deposit back). I don't know why the buyer pulled out (either he couldn't come up with the amount he'd bid, or he just didn't like what he found out about the property during the full inspection). So the property came back on the market earlier this month. This time I bid nearly 50% above the asking price, and it seems like I have won the bidding. I say "seems like" because this bank is notoriously slow: it took them 2 weeks after they closed the bidding to let me know I'd won, and now it's been a week since I signed the final contract (and paid the deposit directly to them) and I still haven't received the signed contract back from them. The estate agent (who is the REO listing agent, as I made sure I tracked her down before putting in my bid) assures me they're always this sloppy, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I've bagged the property.
Good luck BB. We are keeping our fingers crossed that you get your dream house. By the way, where do I find the Case Shiller graphs for individual cities ?
Steve, Just thought I would share this article from Forbes written last week. Like you, they also say that house prices in Florida are likely to fall over the next 12 months.
One avenue being, cash. Has anyone travelled over with ridiculous amounts of cash. If so, what are your means of securing it and playing it safe? Or are there any other suggestions anyone could share in regards to this?
Many thanks in advance,
Hi Zita
Instead of carrying cash, you could use travel money cards. I know that ANZ travelcard allows you to carry a maximum of $15,000 USD on one card so if you take 2 cards, then you could carry $30K which is the amount that you want to bring over. The only drawback is it only allows a daily withdrawal of $1800 USD per card through the ATMs so it will take about 8 days for you to withdraw all the cash when you are there. You or someone else can also reload the travelcard. Let me know how it goes.
Thanks BB for sharing your experiences. I have really enjoyed your posts. I can understand your frustrations. As foreign buyers or potential foreign buyers, our number one enemy is time because we are not there for very long. The realtors know that and will take advantage of that. They know that we will be desperate to buy something before we leave for home otherwise we may feel that the trip was a failure. They have probably seen this situation time and time again.