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    Ajax, I think you win with that one.

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    Another

    # landlord puts house on the market and expects the tenant to be completely flexible when it comes to open inspections and showing potential buyers through, even asking the tenant to vacate the premises during these times to make it easier for the landlord despite the fact that the tenant is still paying market rent but unable to make full use of the house they pay for to call "home".

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    There will be a Murphy's law for tenants too starting with

    #1 Tenant signs a lease and moves in, two weeks later agent puts house on the market

    #2 Tenant requests several times that the landlord fix the dripping taps. Landlord "forgets" request or simply ignores it so tenant fixes these things himself in an attempt to get the job done and tries to save stingy landlord a few bucks (because he's always whining about how he has no money).

    # Tenant aks for dishwasher to be repaired because after all it was working when he/she moved in but landlord says "no, not interested but you can buy one if you like". This also happens with other "inclusions" in the home that the tenant is paying for use of and is included in the tenancy agreement. Tenant, who treats the house like his/her own and is exceptionally diligent about making sure the rent is paid up on time finally gives up and moves out to a better, more workable business arrangement.

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    Hi
    As a long term tenant of rental properties I can understand their upset at the sale process but they are still being very unreasonable. I have been in rental homes that have been offered for sale while I've been living in them and it is quite a disruptive process. Mind you, none of them have ever offered me a reduction in rent during the sale period as you have. I believe you've been quite reasonable and obviously they want to not have to move before they can move into their own home. From a renters point of view I would use the proper forms and go through all the right channels as you plan to and if they are still unreasonable give them notice to move out.

    Since we're talking about this. Can all you investors tell me what you'd rather – a long term tenant who is never late with payments and who takes care of the place paying a smaller than market value rent or short term tenants who pay a higher rent?

    My landlord is looking to put up the rent but the house is needing some work. If he increases the rent significantly (which is likely) I will either ask for things to be taken care of or move. We have not been at all demanding due to the amount of rent we pay and have taken care of most things ourselves. We do however realise that this is an investment for him and he is in no way emotionally attached to it and so the less he can spend the better. But, we also need somewhere to live and we've been here for seven years, have rented a house owned by him prior to moving into this one and we are not at all demanding. He has no intention to sell the place any time in the near future. He is also lives in the street with his family and likes the peace and quiet.

    I want to the rent to remain low myself as I'd like the opportunity to save some money in order to some day buy my own place. self interest

    Your thoughts???

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    I got 46 and could apparently survive until 16 October 2007. I better start storing away the nuts.

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    Hi Marc
    We only intend to start out small but right now we're starting from zero so I want to do as much research as I can before I take any leaps.
    We don't have to live so close to inner city Brisbane but when I moved into this house it was on the expensive side but I shared with my sister (my then young daughter also) and half the rent was small. My sister bought her own place, I got married and had another child. The rent here is even cheaper than some of the other outer suburbs right now (aside from way out of town) so we've been hesitant to move unless forced to. If we move to a suburb miles away from work and schools it will be like moving out of Brisbane all together as my daughter would need to change schools and she only has two years left so I'm hesitant to do that to her. Plus the small savings we might make would be chewed up in travel to work. The rents aren't so  much cheaper that it will make it worthwhile. I've heard of people paying more than us in places that would require a 40 minute drive to work. It's one of those catch 22 situations.

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    Hi Louise.

    Wow. You really did do well to get so far. I love to hear stories like this because it just reassures me that it it is possible. You're right though about getting into the market at the right time. Properties are much more expensive than they were only a couple of years ago. By the calculators that I've used which are outlined in all the books I've been reading we could only borrow up to $195000 (that is with a deposit which we don't yet have). What we have to do is get saving and find a property in that price range. My daughter has only two years of highschool yet and does not want to move away. My husband just has a new job which is his dream job and will eventually earn him more money. If we move to a place where the properties are cheaper we have to uproot everything. We have to decide whether to buy an investment place elsewhere and hold onto it and sell later to buy what we want or move. STill, it's not going to happen overnight. We've got a lot of work to do yet.

    I did look into the loss of family payments. When you work more hours you earn more money meaning you lose more family benefits which also means the CCB percentage increases and you're paying more for childcare. To work more hours somewhere through the day would mean working just to pay the childcare fees and we might in fact be a step backwards. I'll try to find something at night. I'm already feeling overwhelmed because life is already incredibly hectic!!!

    I am not prepared to push the issue of the block of land yet with my sister. She has plans to see it sometime soon (she lives less than an hour away). Once she feels able to tell me the location of it (she is not exactly sure either yet) I will take a look myself.

    I have been looking carefully at our expenditures and am working on developing a strict budget but don't know how much room to move there is. We already live very carefully. I have an automatic deduction set up to an ING account and have had for some time. Problem is though each time an unexpected bill comes I have to draw on it.

    I'm looking into perhaps buying shares as a savings plan in the short term but not sure if this is the way to go either. I have invested in many books (all bought second hand) and am reading up a storm. But as you know, with kids there's very little time left in each day after going to work to do anything too productive. My son is an extremely demanding three year old and can't cope with me doing anything that doesn't revolve around him! He is very cute though. It just means I can't do much with him around that requires concentration. While I'm doing that he's usually doing something dangerous that is likely to cause a permanent injury such as building a ladder using the cushions off the lounge which topples over and means he conks his head on something hard …you get the picture…. Ah kids!

    I have plans to eventually talk to a financial planner (still in progress of finding the right one, hence my request for advice from Pendo) to help steer us in the right direction and give us something to get started on.

    My teenage daughter seems to have some unexpected school expense each and every day. Sporting events, excursions, book hire, camps, new school shoes, bus tickets, stationery…each time I think I've made progress we seem to take a step backwards. It's very hard to budget for all those things that you are not expecting. The schools rarely give you an expenses list at the beginning of the year. Then the kids get sick and need a doctor – more money. Then they need medication – more money. Then they break something like the car door handle which means no one can get into the car – more money…but that's life and I wouldn't want it without them.

    Anyway I'll keep you posted on my progress. So far this week though (fingers crossed) I think we've managed to save around $100 dollars by being conscious of exactly every cent we spend.

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    Hi Nicole
    I did. I was surprised! I told my sister and she didn't seem to still think it was worth much. I'm already so much wiser from all the suggestions that have been made on this forum and so glad I found it. I'm well on my way to making decisions about where to go from here.

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    Hi Pendo
    You offered to help me with a list of financial planners/advisors in my area. Can you provide me with your email address?

    Thank you

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    Hi everyone
    I've been away from the computer for a few days but thank you to everyone for your fantastic suggestion. I knew if I put the call out there I'd get some feedback. While what may now seem like a good idea to you all I'm sure it was hard for you too to know where to start. I guess we get caught up in the feeling that it seems impossible and even finding out what is the first step one should take seems incredibly daunting. I am now a whole lot wiser than ever before. I also ask everyone direct questions about their experiences of getting into their own homes.

    Boshy888
    I already teach my children about brand awareness and the lure that clever marketing creates. I don't believe that the most expensive is always the best and nor are any of us driven by the need to have the supposed latest and greatest. I also don't believe that the cheapest is always the best either. I shop for quality and best value for the money I can afford to spend.

    I've been reading a lot of budget saving books and it seems I'm already savvy in that regard according to the tips offered and in fact seemed to have some that others didn't. I will look into the optus deal though but hate to lock into contracts of any kind and have always said I would never do it again after past experiences.

    I agree with you all that paying $280 per week in rent is dead money which is why I am so determined now to change the situation. Where can you buy properties worth $160 000 though. Even in some towns where no one typically wants to live with little infrastructure and few job prospects, no schools and all the usual desirables, it's almost impossible to get anything under $200 000. I'll keep looking but any tips would be very welcome.

    My husbands travel expenses are only repaid for the time he spends driving his car at work while for work purposes. I am working on ideas to increase our incomes etc and I am determined to make it work for us. I know I'm starting late but hey…better late than never.

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    Hi Okkamooie

    We haven't yet discussed what to do with the land. I have no idea of the details of it and my sister claims not to have either. It's always one of those touchy subjects with the family and when I bring it up they all change the subject as if the mere fact of discussing would have my father turning in his grave as we might be considered "greedy" or something. I tell them he left it to us because he wanted us to have something so it can't be considered greedy.

    They all have their own homes and unfortunately I am the only one who doesn't. It will have to be discussed soon and I'll make the suggestions that we sell or build on it to rent. Apparently it's a block between two or three others who use it to store their dumped cars etc on. I have no proof of that as I have never seen it and apparently neither have my siblings. They all say no one would buy it when they can use it for free!

    This is such a heavy but interesting journey for me to be on right now and I am planning on documenting my experiences in a blog as I have never read anything that sets out in detail someone's distinct struggle with acquiring a property, IP or otherwise for the first time.

    I have about one million books by my bed all waiting for me to read! I am currently reading Anita Bell's "Your Success in Five Years or Less" which is case studies of those who have done it. Some of them very low income earners etc. Of course there's still a lot left unsaid but at least it has given me hope that it is possible.

    I have not much time unfortunately so entering into an agreement with another is not really an option right now. I do have a fantastic business idea which I believe would be successful (don't we all) but don't know where to start with that either. Ho hum. More research.

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    Hi again
    First of all to answer v8ghia. We currently pay $280 per week in rent which is really very cheap for the inner city suburb of Brisbane in which we live. We have a private deal but our landlord has just had the place appraised so he can increase the rent. We've been here six years and paid the same rent the whole time. The house needs lots of work doing to it and since he hasn't raised the rent we haven't bothered him too much. If he raises the rent significantly however I will be asking him to take care of some things around here.

    I never thought of buying a house that is not in my own state. I'll do some looking around.

    Elka

    It's taken four years to deal with my fathers estate because he had a friend of his who was a solicitor take care of things. That friend, after my father died, stopped practicing and bought a survey business instead. He's slow to act and we've requested numerous times that he get things in order and forward them to us. It's taken until now. My sister (executor) is not one to share information readily either. That's just the way she is.

    The property is only a block of land. There is no house on it so nothing to live in. It's in the village/township of some tiny farming community near Gympie. Apparently the block is not easily accessible. That's all I know.

    If there's somehow I can use any of his estate as leverage I will try to.

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    Thank you all so much for your advice and interest in my situation and for sharing your stories with me. I'm very glad I stumbled across this site.

    I am determined to make it work and whether it means buying an IP first (I now know the lingo) or not I'm not sure. I have been to one lender to see how much we may be able to borrow and while I wasn't laughed at I didn't come away from the experience feeling any more confident. The amount we could have borrowed would not have been enough to buy even much of a mobile home. I guess one has to start somewhere though.

    I'm going to look for the books suggested and also the websites.

    When I said earlier that the property my father left was "invaluable" what I really meant is that it isn't, apparently, worth much at all. But since none of us know exactly where it is the real value is yet to be determined.

    I have plans to see a financial planner to see if they can offer any help and will watch this sit with interest.

    Strangely I was in a better financial situation when I was a sole parent with my first child. I had less income on paper but also less expense. I was also able to access all kinds of things that low income earners (ie those on a pension) can. I worked and studied while I was a sole parent but only part time. Homes were cheaper then too but I was too scared to take the plunge when I was a single person with a child to support.

    Now it almost feels like I've left it too late. I have a teenager and a three year old and as anyone with children knows, life is busy. Finding time to research, go to work, and spend time with the family and take care of a household is trying but not impossible.

    Thanks too to Chooka for your advice on getting paid a finders fee. I'll look into that!

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    Hi Handy Andy
    Thanks.

    We have no pay TV. The cars are both owned outright and really cost next to nothing to run. My husband needs his car for work (he gets reimbursed for all his travel expenses) and I have to transport two children around and get to work. Hard to do with a pushy or using the God awful public transport system in Brisbane.

    We have internet phone (minimal expense) and internet access with optus (my husband is in IT and our broadband connection is not negotiable. For him anyway). I don't deal with telstra and intend to never do it again. We have prepaid mobile phones (my husband's employer pays for his).

    We have only car insurances and contents insurance. I also have a life insurance policy through my superannuation. My husband is reviewing his.

    Can you please explain what IP, PPOR is? I have no idea!!!!

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    I do have one question right now.

    My father died four years ago. He owned a small but invaluable property (and also another property that he sold on vendor finance) that he had left to his five children. We've been wrangling with his solicitor to transfer the estate to my sister as executor. This is just happening now.  There are small regular payments for the vendor finance property being made to the solicitor. The story behind the sale of this property is a long one and I won't go into that right now.

    Apparently the small property is in the name of the solicitor and to transfer it to us would incur some expenses. I'm not sure what or how much though. I'm not even sure (and neither is my sister) of all the details of the whole estate as we are still not in possession of all the details)

    If the property was to be transferred to his children, in their names, what would it mean for me? Would I still be eligible for the first home buyers grant? I'm even ignorant to how all this works. Is it better to leave it with the solicitor who perhaps holds a trust fund or something.

    Any clues for me who is clueless?

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    Hi everyone
    First of all thanks for the feedback and the replies. I appreciate the honest answers you've given me.

    I realise my circumstances are not unlike a lot of others. It's just a matter of sorting through the myriad of information and trying to make sense of it. There is a lot out there and I will continue to do my research.

    I have done budgets and expenditure lists etc and really don't have a lot left to play with or save. Our combined net income is only around $55000 and when raising two children that money doesn't go a long way. Without including anything considered non-essential we spend sometimes more than we make. We don't take holidays, don't eat out, we go to the movies so rarely you could say almost never. We just manage to pay the rent, buy food, maintain and run our out of date but trustworthy cars, pay education (public school) and child care fees, utilities, insurances and that's about it. We, unfortunately have to run an overdraft facility (around $4000) in order to meet our expenditures. I often review our insurances and other expenses to ensure I'm getting the most out what I'm paying for.

    (This is not a sympathy plea, just an overview of our situation)

    I pretty much know where each and every cent we spend goes and how it's being utilised. I have kept books that recorded every cent we spent over a few months and there really was no room to move and we rarely buy anything that is unnecessary.

    Fortunately however we don't have any car loans or other loans (aside from the overdraft facility).

    My husband works full time (he's changed career in the last four years and is slowly working his way through the process and is on his way to bigger and better things) and I work part time on a casual basis. I realise I could work full time but there are many disadvantages to doing so, the biggest of which would be to my children. The cost of childcare would eat most of my wages away anyway so I can't justify working full time to pay for childcare.

    I have goals and each time I think we're getting somewhere some unexpected expense pokes it's ugly head out and we're back to square one.

    Anyway, I have many more questions and will have to wait until I can write something that makes sense at some point when I don't have a small toddler running around distracting me.

    I would like to reply by email to those who invited me to do so. And will follow up as soon as I am able.

    I would love to invest in property, or better still, own a stable home in which to raise my family. One I can call ours and stop paying for someone elses.

    Thanks again for your friendly advice.

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