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    The other thing would be to have capital gains tax removed once you have owed the property for a certain number of years. That way we could encourage long term investing and help to provide for peoples retirement.

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    In 1984 Keating abolished negative gearing. The end result was the property market collapsed and they were forced to reintroduce it 12 months later. We need to encourage people to save there money, any attempt to change or remove negative gearing would be a disaster.

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    The fact that 60% commercial loans were not available to foreign nationals 112 months ago shows that market conditions have now changed. On the ground we are hearing about improved conditions and demand all the time. Remember that commercial buildings can be
    an apartment complexes with over 5 apartments. Now if investors were paying cash 12 months ago and today we can get 60% finance that means that cash on cash returns are far higher and should lead to more demand and more solid prices.

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    Hi Steve

    We are seeing the same thing in Orlando. there are some great opportunities around. The other thing that has changed in the last 12 months is that banks are prepared to lend around 60% on a commercial property. Plus the loans are non-recourse which means that the loans are based on the asset rather than the person borrowing. So that shows the confidence that banks have in commercial property. 12 months ago these type of loans did not exist for foreign nationals.

    There have been a lot of comments about the GFC being as ad as the depression. It is amazing to look at some of the figures however in 1940 7 years after the so called great deal the unemployment rate in the United States was still running at close to 15% only the second world war changed that rate.

    In my view there will not be a better place to put your money into real estate over the next few years. The fact that Steve is there should tell everyone what a great market this is.

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    Hi Jay

    I agree with you 100%

    I think value add is the way to go. There are always top quality commercial deals available. However as the market changes we have to keep up with that and offer our clients solutions

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    Since Rob posted this in 2012 we have established Property Know How USA

    I am currently in Orlando with Rob and a group of investors. Today we are putting together flip deals and commercial deals including apartment complexes. There are great opportunities in the united states

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    Jeff

    have you been on the ground in ohio and seen the deals there

    i am currently in orlando with clients

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    I am currently in the United States in Florida, there are still great opportunities here. However rather than just focus on cheap housing we look at high quality property such as apartment buildings and commercial buildings. You have to be careful what you buy but thats why it is important that you deal with the right people

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    Currently in Orlando Florida

    Great market here

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    donna shaw  0412 260758  although she is in Melbourne originally from California she is very good

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaIarcW477E

     

    Above is a webinar on a deal we did a few months ago. It was an office building for 1.42 million with $660,000 and the balance with vendor finance at 4.75% for 3 years. I really like apartments but this was such a good deal. We have a government tenant on half rent fr 12 months and need to let just another 5000 square feet out of 37,000 the building will then be returning 35% cash on cash. We are currently looking at a large apartment complex.

    With the above deal we put together a master LLC with partnership agreements and each individual had their own LLC. We own a property management company so we manage the property as well.

    Like you guys my first thing is to look after the client. I have clients wanting to do flip deals we buy from the bank and make them money. I am not concerned about the companies pulling out most of them target people without money. If I did not have a business partner I trusted 100% I would not be dealing in this market. If you deal with Jay or Engelo or my company you will know that we are transparent and have our clients best interests at heart

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    I was based in Texas at the height of the boom. There were opportunities to make money even in a market like that

    Now I believe that the opportunities are better than they have ever been. However they are different. I focus on commercial properties because you can borrow and therefore leverage. Even if there were cheaper 12 months ago  it mean means that your cash on cash returns are higher. Also most of the commercial loans are non-recourse which means the loans are based on the asset rather than the borrower. So if you have a 40% deposit you can borrow 60%. So investing in the United States is no different to anywhere else it is a matter of changing your strategies as the market changes. So we look ahead and see many other opportunities as the market improves.

     

    In terms of a lot of companies getting out of the US market why is that surprising most were only in it for the quick buck and were quite happy to sell there clients crap. Many people who have brought in America will have lost money many do not know it yet. Success in the American market comes down to who you are dealing with. There are very good people on this forum. I have a great business partner on the ground in Orlando. If I did not have 100% faith in my business partner I would not be in the market.

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    As I have mentioned most of the companies have been promoting to people without money. So if you cannot buy in Australia buy some cheap crap in America. Now that the dollar has dropped and many of these people have lost there money

     

    If you dont have $60,000 to $100,000 do not waste your time.

    We partner with our clients to make money and help them build a portfolio. In my view America is an exciting market to be in but you need a plan and vision and also you must be working with the right people on the ground.

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    I agree that the IRS are painful however it a matter of settle up the structures correctly. I do not agree with you about the US I think it depends on what end of the market you are looking at. I am mainly focusing on commercial property because the returns are there and with leverage are more attractive on anything you can buy in Australia.

     

    My own view regarding projects in Australia is that you have to look at bigger projects. With a 4 unit site you are always competing with other investors and small builders. Once you move to a 20-50 unit site the competition is not as large. Plus I raise capital to buy these sites which makes it easier to get funding. Even 2 years ago it was made to make smaller projects stack up.

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    Well Jay  I do not agree with you. We focus on Commercial property often with deals with upsides. Florida has fallen a long way and is rising. Even if it just goes back to normal levels. The deals we have been doing have been great. However we look for opportunities and not just off the self deals.

    In terms of Australia I think the market here is shaky, although in theory Brisbane looks good we have been trying to buy development sites but most seem over priced. In America the market has lifted off the bottom and with finance now available you can get some great cash Flow deals. Most of the marketing companies target cheap housing. So naturally when the dollar falls that market starts to fall. However i believe you have to look at quality deals. The fact that you can leverage will make a big difference.

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    Hi Steve

     

    Apart from the fact that you cannot click on the signatures I think the site looks great. It is clear to read. I think as you go along you will find easy fixes for the other things.

    In terms of Freckle I don think he ever says anything positive, so don’t think his view was in the majority. Frankly if he came out loving the site thats when you may indeed have something to worry about.

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    It clearly depends on how much money you have. However in the American market .you can only get private funding in houses under $100,000. Once we look at commercial property which can include apartment complexes we can look at 60% non-recourse finance which means that the loan is only on the asset at rates of around 5%. Now when you consider that the net returns are generally 10-15% . From the banks point of view they deem these investments to be less risky than a single family home and generally the capital growth will be higher as well

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    In my view if you are after cash flow you can not go past the United States especially as you can borrow around 60% as a non-recourse loan

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    I think what happens is that markets change. It is a matter of looking for the opportunities.

    I am finding that there are still great cash flow deals in Florida especially with commercial and apartment complexes where you can leverage by borrowing 60% on a non-recourse loans.

    Now although I agree with your comments on Brisbane generally when I am looking at development projects in many cases they are already over priced.

    In The United States you have a recovering economy and I believe that with commercial finance in place I think this creates new and exciting opportunities.

    Yes there is a little less interest however much of that interest was from people looking at the bottom end of the market I am finding that most of my investors are more sophisticated and can see the opportunities.

     

     

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    We flip properties but I do this in he United States not Australia

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