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    Fair call… it has actually caught my eye, still doing due dilligence :p

    thanks for the heads up bardon!

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    I think i may have missed the boat for Latrobe Valley :(

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    Yeah recently saw that one… Margaret mentioned there was too much land available/being released for prices to move upwards anytime in the foreseeable future.

    Looking at rural victoria now for properties #3&4. Very eager to get a start there… any suggestions on where else to look? Find info on new infrastructure developments etc.?

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    From wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsham,_Victoria

    Services and attractions
    Tourism is not a major industry in the city, although it is near the Grampians National Park and the popular rock climbing destination Mount Arapiles. There is a tourist wool factory where it is possible to buy woollen products and view how top quality wool is grown in covered sheds.There is a walk along the Wimmera River, which is restrained by a weir, but the water flow is rather intermittent, due to a drought which also makes the farming industry harder for the farmers.

    Horsham Botanic Gardens, located by the Wimmera River, were designed by notable landscape architect William Guilfoyle.

    And only $15,000 population. Doesn't quite sound like a hotspot at the moment, and with mining would still be a single industry town???

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    Was recommended the following accountant in Sydney by a fellow investor. Sounds like the accountant has a sizable property portfolio herself.

    Keshab Pty LTD
    Munzurul A Khan
    (02) 9633 5511

    Anybody else here use them?

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    Hey,

    Hmm, other than property :p

    Travelling abroad, and within Australia. Have 3 overseas trips this year (a habit i'm attempting to curb), have been to over 20 countries in the last 4 years, long way to go before I hit 60 tho. Would love to do 6 months to a year in south america.

    …and scuba diving, tho the dives are few and far between, it's just too expensive in Australia unless you own your own gear.

    …and of course what started it all, community work, starting grass root activities within neighbourhoods for the benefit of the community.
    Tho sadly this has slowed down due to work taking up so much time :(

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    Hi, and welcome!

    There's a number of individuals on this forum with properties in Sydneys West who may be able to provide some useful advice :)

    First question, is this purely and investment? What are your goals/aims?

    My own personal experience has been the high cost of construction and current land values in the area make construction a poor investment at the moment. I am constructing 2 granny flats in St Marys and tended to find vacant lots with just granny flats were unviable and overprice by the seller.

    I have however found a good deal just last month, a brick veneer house with a second dwelling for $320k (all fees inclusive). Needs about $20k worth of work tho. It took a lot of stressful negotiating, I had to find a place for his mother who was the current tenant to live, thus the lower price (tho in hindsight could have bargained harder).

    My focus was on areas in close proximity to train stations, and other amenities, (St Marys, Kingswood, Werrington, Penrith etc) those areas ticked all my boxes, tho a few individuals have made great deals in places like Tregear etc.

    I have bought 2 properties there, now am being more aggressive on my bargaining for cashflow positive properties. I don't think i'll find those in Sydney's West due to the high volume of 'investers' there recently willing to pay what I would consider too much for a property.

    Am also keeping an eye on Camden, a friend of mine has over 20 residential and commercial properties there, tho his strategy is hard to copy, he loves it there.

    Regards
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    Chat to Richard Taylor (Qlds007). He is qld based tho not 100% sure where. He has a wealth of knowledge as can be seen from his posts on this site.

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    Hi

    Luke: Yes, I am building another granny flat and it is only being valued at about $1000/m2 well below the cost of construction. (found a much cheaper option, tho just funding it on my own now). I believe worst case scenario would have the property value being $30k under cost to complete option 3 and 4.

    Ian: Option 2 does seem to be the way to go, what do you mean by valuer just needs a door to consider them one house?
    Currently it is obviously 2 buildings, tho 2m apart. I’m thinking to brick around the second building and connect to first, 1 brick wide, install sliding door, tile floor in between and add material sunroof over existing wooden beams connecting both buildings. Thoughts?

    Thanks for the advice so far!

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    Hmm…

    Sounds long and painful :p

    Thanks for the advice everyone, lots of useful information. Never thought of rats and mice, this will be fun haha.

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    Is that 20% profit AFTER interest is paid?

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    Oh… just realised you self managed. They would likely not be using rental agencies.

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    Might be a dumb question…

    Did you have tenant insurance? Would cover an extra 8 weeks rent (12 weeks including bond).

    Perhaps the rental agency can check if he is renting elsewhere? (I heard they have a register to check records? – probably not)

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    Just settled on a place this Sat.

    6.5% returns before building Granny Flat. If you subtract the 20% deposit I used then am already over 10% return.
    Will work harder to find a true cash-flow property before end of the year :)

    So much to learn, so much opportunity out there!

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    From memory, I paid not much under $2000 for a 3 door mirrored built in a year or two ago all inclusive.

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    Catalyst wrote:
    Hi I tried to reply to your private message but your settings won't allow me to send you a PM. Please change them and I'll reply next time I get Internet.

    Hey Catalyst,
    You have someone in mind?

    Would you be able to PM me too, i'm looking for one myself.

    Regards

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    ozlat wrote:
    NHG – so continuing from my comment above… if i start by putting 20% of my weekly income into my etrade account and then invest $1,000 at a time… that would be a good place to start? i did have some success and failures with small cap stocks… would you recommend that since I literally have nothing to lose and everything to gain to get back into small cap stocks? or blue chips? or something all together different? and how easy is it to use those investments to get more money to invest into further investments such as property? if i was to get back into shares I would probably buy a subscription to one of their newsletters and follow their advice whilst also conducting my own due diligence… some of the publications they offer are: 

    Hey Ozlat,

    The common theme here is learn to save and create a steady cashflow. Learn about delayed gratification etc, Baby steps. Something to aim for really helps you meet your goals quicker, just make sure you don't loose sight of the end result your after.

    What is your aim? Financial stability?  A property to call your own? What do you need to do or know to get there?
    Perhaps use this period to learn more about investment tools and find what suits your level of risk vs reward, while saving money and as mentioned previously learning good habits.

    I had 'analysis paralysis' for 2 years before i made my first move in the property market, and still made plenty of mistakes :p One step at a time.

    JacM wrote:
    I have to admit, and I will upset some forumites by saying so…. that it does upset me that when newcomers come to this PROPERTY investing site to seek advice on investing in PROPERTY, that they are encouraged towards the stock market.  That is not the investment strategy they came here for and it is quite unlikely they have enough knowledge of how to make their money grow on the stock market.  I worry their money pile will reduce, and that yes, in many cases it would be safer saving furiously in a bank account…

    JacM,

    I completely agree stocks can be dangerous, I just sold up all my stocks last week and reinvested it into property. It sounds like Ozlat is asking about how to get on his feet tho, not about property per se.
    I personally used stocks to build up the deposit on my first property, tho it is not a 'strategy' i would recommend to everyone, I happened to have had experience with the stock market well before property even registered on my radar, now I much prefer property :). They are both tools to an end result.

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    Forrestville in Sydney,NSW. Near Frenchs Forrest.

    Drove past a few times, there's one area which has houses on a hill (backs onto Healey Way?), really bushy and a river runs right in front, close to city, Chatswood shops, etc. Stunning views.

    Just google mapped it, take a look from the bridge there, beautiful park underneath.

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    Bought a place with Property Secrets, although I'm pleased with purchase, I do feel I came out having paid to much without much support in bargaining.

    Was told I could just place a granny flat, I felt theirs was quite excessively priced, and undertook my own. Now that i'm in the process of building one, am having problems with council, tho it WILL go ahead, it is costing me $20k more than expected (and suggested by PS), fortunately I am purchasing a granny flat for a ridiculously one off bargain price which will still make it all worth while.

    I do vouche for the company if you are time poor, they won't send you broke and I did get a decent property out of it, however after learning from my experiences, eg. networking and researching, I have bought a second property that comes with a granny flat, 2 streets away for less than my original property. I will be even more agressive for the purchase of my third IP.

    Highly recommend the use of a mentor, tho this doesn't mean you need to pay for it. A lot of my 'mentors' have shared their knowledge with me for the price of a coffee.

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    Hi Richard,

    Purely out of curiousity:
    1. do they check credit rating for low-doc loans;
    2. if so, what is the benefit of a low-doc loan? for those who don't have initial deposit?

    Regards
    NHG

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