Heatherton had a reputation to being a slum/druggies area like Dandenong, but not as bad.
But image is changing – a big developer (Mirvac ??) has been building on all the land around the Kingston Rehabilitation Centre ( near Cnr. Kingston and Warrigal Rds – south of Kingston Rd).
The Kingston Heath Golf Course is next door. – Along Kingston Road. To the east it is market gardens and nursuries.
To the North, on east side of Warrigal Rd, there is a new Clive Peters Outlet plus others being built in between Bunnings and the South East Water / United Energy Depots.
This area is under the Kingston Council. I heard the other day that this Council has great things on its agenda for the next 7 years to improve the previously known slum areas within its Council boundaries and Heatherton is high on the list.
Has already started with the new developments.
The concept sounds great but I would be concerned about taking over a company owned by someone else. Even if you did all your due diligence there are still pitfalls. Several years ago I became aware of a situation where a company was taken over. Due diligence was done and everything came up clean, or so they thought at the time. So the deal went ahead. Some 18 months later the company and the new directors were served with a summons and ended up in the courts. The end result – lost the company and business, plus their own personal assets because personal guarantees had been given to the Bank.[].
I would never take over someone else’s company. You never know what is lerking in the background that a due diligence doesn’t discover.
Its like buying a used car – you are purchasing someone else’s problems.
If anyone is considering this type of investing for the purposes of saving Stamp duty, also think about the ultimate loss. In my book I’d rather pay the stamp duty than try to save it by taking over someone’s shanky/shonky company with $1m of assets.
What Stuart has said is correct.
Though I understand that if you borrow money to purchase your IP all the costs associated with the borrowings are spread over a 5 year period provided that the monies under the Mortgage remains owing after 5 years – that is you can claim one fifth of the borrowing costs each year for 5 years. These are usually the Bank’s application fee, valuation fee, stamp duty and regn fees on the Mortgage and any Solicitor costs for reviewing the Mortgage documents.
If you repay the Mortgage within the 5 year period – you still claim one fifth for each year and in the year that you repay the loan you claim the balance of the costs.
ie: Total borrowing costs are $500 – you claim $100 per year. If you pay off the loan in year 3, you would have already claimed $200, so in year 3 you would claim the final $300.
I hope I have explained this clearly and it makes sense.
No Section 32 is a common problem for us Victorian property investors. If the deal is good I get around it by telling the Agent that I am prepared to make an offer of $? subject to viewing S32. Have even offered to pay a $100 holding deposit so the Agent won’t sell or take offers from anyone else. If the S32 is not up to scratch then you can get your money back and walk away. But if it is okay then you don’t miss out on a great deal.
No Section 32 is a common problem for us Victorian property investors. If the deal is good I get around it by telling the Agent that I am prepared to make an offer of $? subject to viewing S32. Have even offered to pay a $100 holding deposit so the Agent won’t sell or take offers from anyone else. If the S32 is not up to scratch then you can get your money back and walk away. But if it is okay then you don’t miss out on a great deal.
If I had to make this decision I would keep the car, buy a property and then claim part of the car expenses visiting the property.
My Accountant told me that once you have your first property, you can then claim more of your motor vehicle costs for looking for other properties. Keep a log book of the kms you drive and at the end of the financial year take the total car expenses divide it by the total kms for the year and multiple by the kms travelled looking at properties = $ to claim on tax.
“What is more beneficial” depends on all your circumstances and goals.
I have read this as meaning that the property is a residential property with office facilities.
I understand for a business to run from a zoned residential area the local council have to approve and so do the neighbours. Parking becomes an issue – particularly if office is medical – patients waiting – cars parked in street space the neighbours use.
You would need to speak to local council to discuss their requirements to find out their requirements/views before committing yourself to this. If the council is okay about it make sure that you get to know the neighbours and talk to them about what you propose. Don’t let them hear it from someone else.
My experience has been that neighbours will agree to most things if you tell them first and they don’t hear about it from a third party.
To my knowledge a loss in any trust, be it Family Trust, Unit Trust or Hybid Trust cannot be distributed. The loss is carried forward for the next year.
What I do know is that if you have 2 Family/Discretionary Trusts and one makes a profit and the other a loss the Trust with the profit can distribute to the Trust with the loss.
Your Accountant should be able to give you the exact answer on this.
You are right. There was a post on this topic because I remember contributing an answer. I’ll be damned if can find it either, but I will keep looking.
The answer I gave before was along the lines of:
Yes, you can rent from your own Trust. I have been doing it for nearly 15 years. My Accountant set it up. You should discuss this with your accountant. As for the movie tickets well I’m not sure on this.
Saw an advert. in the newspaper a few weeks ago for 45 acres of land on the outskirts of Melb – Eastern Suburbs – Price: $900,000
Equates to $20K per acre.
Dad will need lots of $ if he wants to buy 900 acres.
You need to find yourself an Architect who lives within the same Council that your property is located. He/She will know all the Council requirements and will be able to give you advice on what is and is not acceptable for your block.
You can obtain some information from your Local Council, however whether you can understand what is means is another thing. It will talk about RES Codes and Overlays, plus vegetation restrictions which the Architect will be able to understand and will know exactly what the plain english version is.
The Architect will also be able to give you estimates of costs.
What State are you from?
In Vic. it is not a matter of just subdividing with out approval. Council still have to approve a subdivision regardless of whether you decide to erect buildings on the land. So you will still need the know the Council regulations and steps to take to get a Council permit.
Again an Architect should be able to guide you on this.
I pay Landlord Insurance premiums yearly. See details in early note about the amounts.
I haven’t heard of any Ins. Co. accepting monthly or quarterly payments.
I always try to meet the Tenants before settlement. It is amazing what information you can find out when meeting them – like what their situation is, what their plans are, what they might need to help them stay in the property (this is really important)
eg: They don’t have good TV reception – get a repair man to fix the antenna or they can’t afford to buy a sandwich toaster – doesn’t cost much.
Then suggest that you will do one or both for them if they will sign a lease and pay the bond.
If they have a problem paying the full amount of the bond in one hit, let them pay it by instalments by them paying extra rent for 5 or 6 weeks to cover the bond.
Tenants can be hard to get so look after them.
Also you can use the line “my Bank agreed to help me with finance to buy this property on the condition that I have a signed lease, so unfortunately I need to ask you to sign a Lease”
Make yourself the “good guy” and you should be able to get what you want.
Hey, I understand your gripes about Solicitors. I have worked in legal offices for over 25 years and can tell which ones are good and bad. The good ones will explain everything to you. The bad ones – well your comments say it all.
But using a Conveyancer ! – I don’t believe that a Conveyancer will be any better and a bad Solicitor.
This year have purchased 3 IP’s with Conveyancers on the other side – 1 still not settled yet. The other 2 wouldn’t have settled on the day if it hadn’t been for Hubby (a Solicitor by the way – and a very good one) who had to explain to the Conveyancers what was supposed to happen at the settlement.
The Conveyancers wanted to walk away from the settlements even before they had taken a seat and opened their file, then charge us penalty interest and extra settlement fees – all because they didn’t think or try to think about making sure the settlement would go ahead.
Their attitude was all wrong and were amazed that settlement actually went through. One comment was “this is the first time we have actually settled first time round” []
Plus there was absolutely no thought given by the Conveyancer for the parties involved in the transactions who were relocating to other properties and had all their belongings packed in a moving van.
The experience I have had with Conveyancers has always been bad – Section 32’s are usually defective and if the file is not plain sailing then the matter becomes all too hard for them and can’t resolve the problems. The easy road is taken. They can’t think outside the square so they walk away.
I’ll see if I can explain the answer you are looking for.
The Trust document should have 2 types of beneficiaries.
Specified Beneficiaries which is usually “the husband, the wife and any child or children of them”.
General Beneficaries which can be
1. parents, brothers, spouses, widows, cousins children and remoter issue and next of kin of the Specified Beneficaries
2. Any Charity
3. Any eligible corporation
4. Any eligible trust
BUT – 2,3 and 4 must be defined in the definitions section of the Trust Document.
If you have this in place then regardless of when you want to add a company or a new trust in the future as a beneficary you are covered under no. 3. and 4. without needing to alter your Trust Deed.
The good thing about a Discretionary Trust is that the Trustee has the discretion to distribute the income to whoever it likes within the names Specified Beneficaries or General Beneficaries.
If you are unsure about this you should speak to your Accountant and/or Solicitor.
My apologies – I certainly did not have any intention of having a closed forum session with Sooshie on this topic.
As Sooshie is a Moderator of this forum and she had asked the question I wanted to explain – discuss this topic with her and determine what was the best way of advising everyone on the forum how to go about making money from development and subdivisions.
As I said this is and can be very complex and hugh money can be lost if you don’t know what you are doing.
I was going to remain tight lipped because I thought that it was just me that had a problem with the game, but as others have made comments I have decided to make a contribution. I had played the game last year and was very confused then. But this time round I was totally frustrated even though I had a plan to follow.
I know and fully understand why there was only you and Dave selling properties – short supply – hence the long queues. However, the one aspect that I felt was not considered is that most people deal with RE Agents when buying property. There are usually no queues at the RE Agents door nor is every Tom Dick & Harry listening to what you are discussing with an Agent nor can they jump the queue as some people were doing during the game.
The game for me personally was the biggest let down of the weekend. I had been so looking forward to playing the game. I didn’t get to buy a property because I was jumped in the queue several times.[!]
I actually then stepped back and just viewed others in the room and was amazed at how and what people did. [] This was a lesson in itself.
I would certainly be interested in game nights if you decide to run them.