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    Hi guys

    Thank you for the response.

    @ Benny: yes, we lived in property A from day one and even though we moved interstate and purchased property B to live in, we continue to nominate property A as our PPoR.

    @ Terry: Thanks for the links. Much appreciated. FYI – the timeline is as follow:

    2002-2010 – we lived in property A – our PPoR.
    2010 – moved interstate and bought property B to live in. Property A rented out but continued to be nominated as our PPoR.
    2013 – bought property C – rented out.
    2014 – property A sold. We are planning to nominate property C as our PPoR.
    2015 – construction is due to commence on property C
    2016 – hope to move in to property C!!

    It is quite a complex one. We’ve spoken to 2 accountants and they both have different views – Go figure! We have called ATO directly ourselves, and it seems property A can be exempt from GST since it was our PPoR and continued to be so, and it was sold within 6 years of being rented out.

    Cheers!

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    Hi

    Just sharing what we have learnt so far from our property investing journey….

    A good mortgage broker is very important.  You need one who responds quickly and thinks outside the square, one whose first answer to an obstacle is "how could we…." instead of a straight "No, can't be done". 

    Next, good accountant who is not only great at doing your tax return, but can help you structure your portfolio to the best tax advantage.  We have outgrown ours and currently looking for "the one"! :-)

    Fantastic property manager is your next best friend.  Keeping a good relationship is very important – you want them to have your best interest at heart!  Remember, they are also your ears and eyes to the property news in your investment area.

    Also, don't forget about legal advice.  You will need this when time comes for your contract preparation.

    Above all, you are your own best friend!  Seek advice where you need the expertise, surround yourself with experts, but don't be lazy.  Continue to self educate.  We find website forums (like this one) is like the bottomless well of knowledge – we learn new thing everytime we log in. 

    Good luck!

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    Hear Hear
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    Hi

    I will take a bit of precaution with buying IP in SA.  We have a few here and found that SA tenancy law is leaning very heavily towards the tenant.  Maybe we didn't get the right formulae but all our IP in SA is negatively geared.  ROI isn't that great.  CG may not be too bad especially for a property on the water.  But we definitely won't be purchasing anymore here.

    We have a property in the country area called Peterborough.  The tenant wanted to break lease and when we said no, he complained to the Housing Commission on a repair issue which we were waiting for a quote from a tradie (it is hard to get one up that area).  The Department  came and went through the whole house with a comb.  They wanted us to spend $50k on a $70k 50 years old house to bring it up to current housing standard.  For a rent of $110/week, it is an impossible task for us to do.  Even the council is supporting us on this, but no luck.  The rental has been capped and the house is now slapped as "Sub-standard".  We have a new tenant now who is very happy to pay more than what the rent is capped at but we can't so it is his lucky day!

    We've learned our lesson the hard way.  So just be extra careful on what you are buying especially when you aren't located in the area.

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    Hi Richard

    We have also done similar thing to New2Invest.  We had to redraw from our offset a/ct to put in 20% deposit for an IP, because the bank is only willing to loan us 80% or we'll be subject to mortgage insurance.

    Sounds like we've done a big No No as well?

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    We can’t locate him anymore. Looks like he is out of business. Now we know why!!

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    Yes, ouch it is!
    Which inspector are you referring to? The original building and pest inspector?
    Don’t know. Just ordinary building and pest inspection guy.

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    Thanks, Derek.
    We have started communicating with HIA. There are few options we are thinking of to resolve our issue. It’s just the repair cost could well be half the cost of purchase price.
    Certainly has been a real good lesson for us. Thank god it is the one and only lemon we had so far!

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    Hi guys

    thanks for the response.

    We had a building inspection done before we purchased which told us none of these issues. The guy is nowhere to be found now. We didn’t know about the septic issue. Over these last 4 years we weren’t aware of the problem. We are told the waste had gone to somewhere somehow but not anymore.
    It’s an old house in a country side. Safe to say the builder is long dead!
    HIA is our problem. They got involved without our knowledge. They have now gone through whole house for every little thing and told us we have one month to fix everything or it will be listed a substandard house with rent control regardless of the fact we weren’t aware of the problem and that we are willing to fix the septic tank issue immediately.

    We shall never again buy an old house in a country!!!

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    Thank you, Richard.  Will keep you in mind for our next venture!

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    Thank you, Richard.

    Yes, the redraw will be set up as a separate loan to our PPoR, so the interest can be deductible. The plan is once we move into the new one (in 2 years time), we’ll convert our current PPoR to be an IP. We have asked our mortgage broker, but the solution she came up with was either a 10% deposit with LMI, or a 20% deposit.  Hence our dilemma.  Perhaps we should have researched your service for options first!

     

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    Hi all

    Just a small input.

    I went to Dolf de Roos seminar, and someone asked him about Detroit.  He also said "not now" to Detroit, due to the car industry being the main source of income for the area.

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    I think we are probably better off renting for first 12 months. 
    If we decide we are happy with the move, then we can sell our current PPoR without paying for a CGT.  and purchase a new PPoR. 

    Thanks for the advice, guys!

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    Thank you!

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    Thank you, guys!

    It's always learning and more learning!

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    Thank you for the link.

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    If you are keeping the boat and motorbike for your personal use, I doubt you could claim their maintenance.

    If you say they were available for tenant's use, and turns out they weren't when you happen to be audited by ATO, then there will be storm on the horizon.

    If you can't afford to buy a holiday house, then you probably shouldn't.  If you want assistance in buying a holiday house by combining it as an IP, then go for it, but do it properly and above board.  I believe in a good night sleep. 

    I agree with Terry, check with your accountant. 

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    hmmm…..  not sure to say thanks or not 'coz now we are feeling gloomy!! 

    No, seriously, thanks guys.  Yes, we realise our mistakes.  It may be a bit too late, but we did wake up to it.  Not by anyone's advice, but only because we decided we didn't want to put all our eggs (loans) in one basket (lender).

    So, we have other IPs which are stand alone with different lenders.  Perhaps by lying low for a while and reducing our PPOR debt through offset a/c, we hope we could find another IPs which could also stand alone.

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    Yes, Terry.  We have already cried over it !!

    This happens in the days when we didn't know any better and depending on our mortgage broker who didn't advise us any other ways.

    We hope that we can still continue to build our investment portfolio based on where we are now.  

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    Thanks Terry.

    The IP which we sold was cross-collateralised with our PPOR.  SO when we release the IP, the bank did a valuation on our PPOR.  It came back at $500K.

    Originally we had a limit of $445K attached to this IP & PPOR.  The bank said their new DSR is now 69.17%, so we had to reduce our loan limit to $345K.
     

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