I will be moving to melbourne with my partner, and she will be a pharmacist end of this year, I will have to make sure she got the job, becuse for me, i probably will start my own business in melbourne. I dont want both of us no income at the beginning.
my idea business probably will be a franchise food business or may be start my own fish and chips shop. still dont know yet…
my friend told me move to clayton (which i finish my study back in 5 years ago) i like clayton but the house is gone up too much and cant affort it..and the price is about 450k for 3/1 town house.. dont think will double up in 5 years..i would rather invest in between 300-400k as still have room to increase.
dandenong is still pretty reasonble, is a second largest city in melbourne right?? but not sure about demographic area.
Melton is pretty cheap…200k- 300k can get a house and land package. but the surronding area seem bit far.. and too far to city.
i might afraid that after first home grant finish end of this year..the property will start dropping…thats why the safer bet is between 300k house.
unless Australian dollar devalue again then oversea buyer have money to buy property in aus.
thats my though.
I prefer not too far to city area, my friends staying in carnegie and mostly will go out for dinner every weekend
I would think the landlord wont allow you to sublease especially student.
you wont know how terrible student is….. is not easy to find a good student and taking good care of the property and ended up you need lots of money to repair it.
You say you would prefer the south or southeast of Melbourne. Can you say why? Virtually all of the resources of the city are north+west of the Yarra River – commerce, entertainment, transport, hospitals, education, shopping, arts, etc – very few of these are out south or southeast. There isn't really a commercial hub out there (Frankston, Ringwood, Dandenong don't really cut it).
Cargill, you need to leave the west one day and have a look over in the East. You will then realise why the equivalent house in the east costs twice as much as in the West. Supply and demand is what drives up prices, and the demand is far higher in the East. People are not stupid, they vote with their feet and can see value in a better area, even if it costs a lot more. BTW, I can't imagine which resources you are referring to.
I havent really been to another side of Melbourne, but what i heard from my friends, there is too much industrial over there, and is pretty polluted. The market right now is pretty shaky, if without first home grant, i cant imagine how is the property market react.
How is economy in melbourne ? is that really bad??? I am in perth, but i cant feel is in recession, every one here still spending but may be not wasting anymore, only spend what they want to buy : P
the most curcial figure is umemployment rate, if the rates is keep going up, it surely not good for property and possibly property price will continue to fall….
Just think logically, if umemployment rate rise, ppl cant afford to pay mortgage, and will fire sale the house and move to cheaper surburb.
and tanent will start moving into cheaper area. just like US market right now,
So what I believe those 300k range will be safe, but not for those high end property, will continue to fall.
I am a business owner in Perth, but I dosent feel like is going to have recession, Business still running well and actually the order is starting to pick up.
so I believe this quater will be much better than last quater. Just finger cross ><
We are much better position than US market as we have very strict regulations.
so do you think Reservior good? compare to west heidelberg…
I am still finding the property about 300-350k range and preferably house or unit (not apartment) as i think it will hole the value even market crash or recession.
and i aslo believe with those range of price, it is achievalbe to get double in 7 -10 years. (as you see lots of houses now is about 500k) inner city might up to 700k-1M now… for the houses..
if i buy something 500k today let say 3 beds room….it is pretty hard to get 1M in 7 years. unless they double up the salary as well….or new migrant.
I would suggest you that dont sell your property, if all of your property is positive cash or litter out of pocket money (unless your property hits very high value like 3 beds room (approx 600-700k) then is okey.
like one of my friend who bought a very big house in clayton and nice area fro 350k.(approx 5/2) .many years ago..now they sold for 800k last year.
I dont believe that property will up to 1.6M in 7 years as the afforbility so it is good time to sell.
Hi Yarpos…..how many property do you have??? u seem to know a lot of stuffs : )
I am still searching to buy though….but problem is i am not in melbourne… : ( and gonna buy it unsight property.
my budget would be approx 350k but at least getting 350 a week…otherwise just paying too much nagative gear…
and you told me to find the property within 10km..and i only can find is west heidelberg and Reservoir… but I heard Heidelberg West is pretty old area and not much property for sales.
and Reservoir…i have no clue…
but i believe if i buy something close to train station, that should be okey i guess, but still need to do more research.
The area north of southern rd, between the creek and waterdale road was the olympic village for the 56 games. Unfortunately now, it's a loooooong way from it's former glory…
If I were you I'd be sticking to the area bound by bell street, southern rd / murray rd, oriel rd and Liberty Parade.
Check out the other side of Bell Street, in what is now Ivanhoe, to see whats being done there. It may take a few years, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in W. Heidelberg, starting with that pocket. There is a fairly high sudanese refugee population in the area as of late though…
They're talking about changing Bellfield to Ivanhoe, so that will bump prices up there and force people the other side of bell street. If you can afford bellfield I'd be looking there… Not quite as dodgy as w. Heidelberg and with better potential IMO. Close to the hospital you may be able to rent it to a couple of nurses or something… Check out the areas bound by Banksia street, waterdale road, bell street and Liberty Parade.
Good luck!
There is nothing much for sale in Bellfield
the area i am looking at is 7 SOUTH CRESCENT. have you been that area? basically is just for student accomdation..i am not sure how is LaTrobe university, and i am located in perth thats why i cant actualy inpect the house by myself..
the reason i choose student accomdation is for me to generate more cash flow. if i dont like the house, i can demolish the house and built two town house if is possible as the Land is approx 650sqm.
how about Reservoir area? any good?
any area that is about 300k-350k range house and within 15km to CBD?? as i dont have much capital to invest and dont want to pay too much nagative gear property
I dont think I would buy in Frankston again (unless we stumble on a great deal) as we already have a place there and as I said I think it will quiet down again now. I am happy to hold the place we have there. If you use the search in these forums you will find plenty of debate on the Melbourne east vs west topic, not all rational and usually just about entrenched positions and biases. Parts of Melbournes west are industrial, parts very livable places…..same for east. Melbourne is now about 70kms across , its dumb to generalise. A lot of people judeg based on what they can see from a freeway.
Your objectives to me say inner location. You can still get a reasonable apartment within 10k of the CBD with good transport access afor 300k. I think that is pretty good in a city this size and I doubt it will last too much longer
Re waiting: Timing as always an issue. Ask your self what would you need to see in a few months to feel comfortable. Would you actually do something then or will you just wait another few months etc etc. There are many reasons to do nothing e.g the market had gone down so I will wait to see if it goes lower, the market has gone up so now I cant buy where I wanted to or am I buying at a peak?
I think there is value to be had here , but finding it from Perth would be difficult unless you are over often or perhaps engage a buyers agent. Others here may have ideas to help a search if you decide to go ahead.
Hi..what area you would buy in melbourne??? any recommendation?
i need to get my full contract..it seem to be missing some part..need to get it from agent… i think i can put up my rent at least 6 month but no less than 3 months….the contract term is based on market value
Am I right in assuming that you're not using a PM.?
You might think about getting yourself one as a good one is worth the money I think. I have an industrial property the next suburb up from you, Mulgrave, and would be happy to recommend my agent who is just terrific. Very efficient.
If you're interested I can private message you the name of the agent and my PM.
Cheers Elka
I am not familiar with PM, and how actully use PM to help me. but is different to let them manage my property rite? because what i though the Commercial property is much less hassle than residential property as the tanent pay everything.