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Theoretically the loan will never be reduced unless you make the additional repayments – in practice the Io period is usually from 5-10 years so the loan reduces after that.
I don't have any chart you can use but the IO loan will always cost you less each week than the P&I loan. Money which can be used for additional investments.
lilyhutch wrote:Thanks Simon – like houses I suppose you can go for yield v growth? Just tossing up as I work out my investing strategy.Yep – exactly.
Besides dividends? Dividends are important.
That is like claiming that, besides rent, how does an IP help you?
Don't dismiss dividends. Some shares pay more than the rent on a Sydney property. Dividends can be fully franked to which makes the value jump.
Some managed funds paid in excess of 50% in distributions last year alone!
Besides – shares don't have additional costs and the buying and selling costs are much lower. Much more liquid too.
So using your example – a $500K house will probably get you 4% before management fees, insurance, rates, repairs, vacancies etc.
$500K worth of a stock yielding 4% will see more in your pocket plus the franking saves you considerable tax.
Do you have any more specific questions?
You are correct all except for the spelling. Dual is quite different to duel
Are you positive about your borrowing capacity?
Give Richard a call and ask him to run your figures. A good broker like him will have access to all sorts of products and might well have something up his sleeve to get you into a two bedder.
Worth a call anyway.
Xenia wrote:Mortgage Hunter wrote:Yes I do. I have a terrific relationship with my students and I like the good ones to come back.I do allow them to lock their room and leave it over the summer for half price, the ones that wish to move out I relet their room.
On the odd occasion when I haven't really wanted one back I have simply told them so. Think this has happened twice in four years?
I market to a niche market and it works great for me. I don't really like overseas students during the year. I find that I have more trouble with them than with the Australian students. Well my Australian students are a mixed bunch and look like international students. With my students it isn't just all about money and leases. They treat me in a friendly respectful manner and I do the same. I mow the lawns so am over their often and I go in for a drink every time and say hello – we usually end up chatting for 30 minutes. I chivvy them to tidy up and leave the odd $4 cake on the bench. I help them move in with my stationwagon and they invite me to their parties – the one I went to was amazing. They had laid cardboard over all the carpets – 20 yr carpets too.
Sometimes I take my dog and they all have fun with her.
Usually have them over for a BBQ in Feb each year. Sometimes some of them crew for me in my boat … which I sold recently.
Mine probably isn't a good business model but I love it, have a lot of friends and very little grief. I also believe that I get a higher return than most similar setups here and 60% of my kids want to return. Usually they leave over third year as they need to go rural for placements.
When things get back to normal here (building a new PPOR) I plan on replicating the whole thing. I reckon it will be 20% more effort for double the return.
Cheers,
Sounds like an ideal situation Simon, if it's self managed! Not practical if you are managing 65 of them
Yes not a businesslike arrangement at all ….
But I think I get more than just money out of it.
rejoice wrote:Pro – party central!
Con – we don't care!As a uni student and recently moved out of
a manic share house… I must say that rent
was always paid late if there was money left
over after constant drinking sessions, the
place was never cleaned, but hey it was
good times and we didn't break anything.Yep – there are student houses like that too. I would have lived in one of them if I had been a student !!
Cheers.
In NSW the contract has already been written by the vendor. You just check that you are happy with it and insert the agreed price and sign.
Ask here.
Talk to a broker.
Talk to a lender.
Colin Gowan wrote:OK folks I am looking for an extra income stream. Anyone who has one that actually works please let me know about it. No doubt I will be inundated and will have to sift through many. In about a month I will get back with the ones I have tried and those that actually worked. [email protected] Your friend Colin, Email [email protected] Mobile 0425201055 Skype Colin GowanYou mean those that you can make work?
Yes I do. I have a terrific relationship with my students and I like the good ones to come back.
I do allow them to lock their room and leave it over the summer for half price, the ones that wish to move out I relet their room.
On the odd occasion when I haven't really wanted one back I have simply told them so. Think this has happened twice in four years?
I market to a niche market and it works great for me. I don't really like overseas students during the year. I find that I have more trouble with them than with the Australian students. Well my Australian students are a mixed bunch and look like international students. With my students it isn't just all about money and leases. They treat me in a friendly respectful manner and I do the same. I mow the lawns so am over their often and I go in for a drink every time and say hello – we usually end up chatting for 30 minutes. I chivvy them to tidy up and leave the odd $4 cake on the bench. I help them move in with my stationwagon and they invite me to their parties – the one I went to was amazing. They had laid cardboard over all the carpets – 20 yr carpets too.
Sometimes I take my dog and they all have fun with her.
Usually have them over for a BBQ in Feb each year. Sometimes some of them crew for me in my boat … which I sold recently.
Mine probably isn't a good business model but I love it, have a lot of friends and very little grief. I also believe that I get a higher return than most similar setups here and 60% of my kids want to return. Usually they leave over third year as they need to go rural for placements.
When things get back to normal here (building a new PPOR) I plan on replicating the whole thing. I reckon it will be 20% more effort for double the return.
Cheers,
What is your longer term plan for the funds?
If you need it back from the redraw you can get it. But if you get it back for personal expenses then the new part of the loan wont be deductible.
You will not get much advantage having it in a redraw anyway.
Offset is better in all cases I believe.
Perhaps you could invest the money somewhere?
Real2 wrote:Theres a number of reasons why I don't like managed funds:
1/ You have bugger all control over your money.
2/ The overall value of your investment can fall, and yet you still have to pay tax on it !
Example
Opening Balance $300,000
Add: Net Income $10,000 (This is what you pay tax on)
Less: Capital Losses $35,000
Closing Balance $275,0003. Managed Funds have been known to engage in frequent "switching" of investments, just for the sake of charging more fees,
rather than because it makes good investing sense.Need I go on
No need to go on. I understand what you feel and I believe that it is true for you.
I have never had a Fund Manager switch investments – not even sure what you mean?
Also – if your property drops in value how is that different?
Control – I control plenty of my money. I also pay experts to control a good chunk of it. It works for me.
All the best with your goals.
Novo30 wrote:Thanks Xenia for the information I will check out the website.What about buying a house and renting it as a tenant lease, to uni students though. All my friends say to me there is a risk of them leaving around xmas and leaving me with a empty house. I guess this is same with all tenants right?
Novo30
I have 5 students. Some leave and some stay. Some leave and return in February.
Whatever rooms I have vacant are rented to Asian students studying English prior to their degrees starting. Plus I do any work needed over that time.
It works well for me.
I saw a presentation last night about a 100% loan for managed funds. Supplied by Macquarie Bank at a reasonable rate. The portfolio is capital protected too so that at the end of the term your funds can be cashed in for current value or original purchase price – whichever is higher.
As for funds which have historically returned a high amount see:
http://investsmart.com.au/funds/
or
There is no argument over which is better. Just like arguing over whether a Mack Truck is better than a Volvo Bus. Pointless as the parameters are different.
For those who fervently believe one avenue of investing is superior you should open your eyes as you are doing yourself out of a whole investing industry.
Cheers
Committing fraud will count against her more…
If your spouse has had the FHOG or owned a home before or owned any IPs prior to July 2000 then you do not get the FHOG regardless of guarantor.
You can buy an IP without jeopardising your FHOG entitlement.
So you should be fine.
But double check it. My website has links to each state's legislation.
A lot of well meaning people still believe that buying an IP means no FHOG ever – that is just wrong now.
Cheers,
yes.
As long as he doesn't own another home in the meantime.
At the end of 6 years he can resume living there then move out for a further 6 years.
Good eh…
happyjack72 wrote:Hi Simon,Thanks for that.
Yes, I think having an offset would be a great addition.
Can the offset have a redraw facility?
Or does it depend on the lender?Off set is just an account that you store money in.
You can deposit and draw as often as you want for no cost.