Not too many buyers have an understanding for gazumping, and how frustrating it can be, especially if it has never happened to them. It is really a form of “dirty pool” and unfortunately there is no law to prevent it, most of it is greed driven, and for the poor unsuspecting buyer, it can be very heart-breaking especially if they really had their heart set on the property!!
I know from personal experience what this is like, and how annoying it can be!!! Take heart though….Don’t let it bother you; there are other properties, and 9 times out of 10 you will find an alternative property that will make you glad you missed out on the last (gazumped) one!!!
Couldn’t resist your post; please feel free to email or PM me direct and I will gladly send you info on Frankston, as well as Mornington Penn.
I have been researching Frankston for many many months, and may be able to answer some of your questions, along with the invaluable information that has been offered already in here by those people who live and/or work in the area. People such as Yack (above) and/or Richmond would be ideal people to ask; as they know these areas from first-hand experience, and they’re lovely people to boot!!
Well lets see….ummmmm, well I own all my properties outright, owing nothing on them, so therefore I guess, I am a CF+ investor. But do I necessarily subscribe to that form of investing as opposed to negative gearing???, no!!
What I do subscribe to is, whatever works!!! Be it pozz or neg, as long as it gets you where you want; then who cares what you call it!!!
I felt it was my right as a poster to be able to ask this question, albeit it has been asked to death. I still find it surprising that clarification had to come from the boss, rather than the person to whom the question was directed in a separate thread, but hey, that’s cool I ain’t expecting miracles!!!
As I said earlier, I didn’t say these places didn’t exist, and still hold the opinion, that they are “rarities” (kind of like little precious gems). I don’t expect anyone to share my view, nor do I feel that it should take any number of posts to convince me otherwise.
For those of you who are prepared to venture outside your own backyards, I applaud your courage, determination and enthusiasm and rejoice in your success. Well done!!!
I am currently selling 4 houses one of which has a 2 year lease (only 6 weeks into it) that has a 8% return on the asking price. It’s in Victoria and I think (and the agent seems to agree) that it is fair market value. It’s even advertised on the net with an 8% return so they are there if you look.
(ps – this is not meant as advertising, I kept info to a bare minimum – if the moderators think it is please feel free to delete)
Hi Malachii,
That’s great [thumbsupanim] but FYI and anyone who cares to READ my comments:
I NEVER SAID IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE!!!
Apart from giving my opinion, the only other thing that seems to have upset anyone is that I felt posts should be carefully orchestrated lest they give the wrong interpretation. There was no malice intend to anyone directly or otherwise!
All the best with the sale; hope it’s a winner for you.
It is just a quick overview report from http://www.reports.rpdata.com.au which is a good starting point. As for research, having acquired 5 degrees during my academic lifetime, the word “research” is way toooooo much a part of my vocab!!! [laugh4] [laugh4] [laugh4]
Yes I agree, such properties are available, but they are not easy to come by, and no doubt as time passes, will become harder to track, but certinaly not IMPOSSIBLE. And of course, with the benefits of depreciation (an area which I know you excel in) higher yields are not out of reach.
However, these properties IMO are rarities, and when making such a claim, it is worthwhile (especially for the sake of “newbies”) to emphasise that although they are out there, they are not as common as one would like to imagine. BUT with a bit of effort, research (on and outside of net) anything is possible!!!
I understand what you’re saying Kay, and I am not disputing that. FYI, I am more than aware that this site is a heavily pozz geared forum; but thanks for the reminder!!
Anyhoo your comment gave me the impression that, yes pozz properties are out there (no argument there) “but if you want ……” so am I mistaken in thinking that your “but” (please, no smart comment was intended here!!!!) was rather an inference to neg geared properties???
Of course, 8% pozz is more than achieveable, but as I said, your comment implied this was likely for neg geared as well, and as such holds (IMO) no merit, as this is (again IMO) not realistic.
I will pass all of your comments onto my friend; I am sure she will appreciate your thoughts. I agree Sonja, how she does it is beyond me, but hey, good on her; she has done well!!!
Melbear, I agree some ALL of the Mortgage Brokers on here seem so helpful that I am sure should she decide to utilise a MB, I would push that she approaches one from here definitely!!!
Thanks again for all you imput; you’re a top bunch in here!!! [thumbsupanim]
I have made note of your replies and will pass on the relevant suggestions.
I tend to agree with Yack, that the probability is not good of borrow more money to finance her next IP, but then I am not a financial whizz and wouldn’t know where to begin.
I have reminded her that she needs to “shop around” and talk to different lenders, and at worst, consider selling one of the IPs if things get too tight. But she assures me all is good, and she will battle on, and that “if not now maybe later” she may be in a better position.
As far as her rents are concerned I can’t answer that, all I know is (according to what she has told me) the rents cover a fair chunk of her debts and her salary makes up nicely for the rest, but on 15-20K it has me beat!!!! [blink]