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    Originally posted by Redhaven:

    The agent said he gets people ringing up saying they’ll pay up to 170 for a place, but he rents them places for 120 and 130 because that’s all people are asking for them.

    Sorry, but methinks the agent is telling you some whopping “porkies” either that, or he is a total moron!!! Surely to goodness, if people were offering to pay as high as 170 and the landlord properties are being offered at 120/130 he would inform his landlords and tell them to “up the rents” to match. He is either bulls**ting you or the people are prepared to pay 170 but when they see what is on offer drop their prices because the IPs just don’t meet this higher price criteria. It doesn’t make sense. Something is outta whack here!!! [blink]

    As for the rental increase over the next 12 months.

    120K – 180p/w = 7.8% not to burst your bubble but that’s quite a jump for any area, not one I can see happening in the (immediate) near future UNLESS the supply of rental properties was so scarce and the demand so high that people not only OFFER 170p/w but actually pay it!!! That is, they have to put their money where their mouth is for me to be convinced that this scenario is likely!!!

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    Jo

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    Originally posted by Ambo72:

    It still keeps telling me that my username is already in use/exists. Never mind.

    This COULD be the problem.[blink] My suggestion would be log out totally, thus freeing up the “username” being inaccessible. Then, when you log in, when it gets to the box that asks whether you wish to move onto ACTIVE TOPICS or YOUR PROFILE etc, select your profile, and try it from that point.

    Fingers crossed.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Redhaven,

    First of all the differnce between the two yields is minimal.

    120K – 120p/w = 5.2% gross rental yield
    240K – 250p/w = 5.4% gross rental yield

    Hardly worth breaking a sweat over.[blush2]

    As for your “minutes from township” try to look at it in terms of kms, and yes it does have SOME bearing on values, that is, the closet to CBD/township the greater the value. But there may well be other governing factors, for instance, are the 240K properties nearer to parks, water, transport, more renters as opposed to owner occupiers??? and so on.

    It has nothing to do with “local mentality” and as such agents have little or no say in what the average person will and will not pay; if they don’t like the price, they will simply move on…PROVIDED of course, the supply is greater than the demand, and they (the renters) can pick and choose. Property investing is first and foremostly about supply and demand, and people’s attitudes toward certain areas, types of homes helps to set the trends which in turn influences the buying/selling and rental demand of properties.

    What do you mean by “wait for the overflow effect from these other townships”??? What do you expect to happen???

    I do agree with your notion of buying when prices are down, and yes sadly, it often is associated with yields (rentals) being down at the same time. But if you are into CG investing then buying and holding property in anticipation of future growth is always a good move, however you must not dismiss the mathematics behind it all; in other words you need to live, hence you have to determine whether you will invest in +CF or -CF.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Ambo,

    When you going into your PROFILE do you see the AVATAR box??? Have you selected one, that is highlighted one (make sure it previews in the box), then when all this checks ok, go down the the SUBMIT button and click to save it.

    Failing that, don’t know what you could be doing wrong.[blink]

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    Jo

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    Ambo,

    Bottom of the page, there will be a box entitled SUBMIT, click on it, and it is saved.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Thanks for explaining the SA = conveyancer term for me Scremin.

    I’m sorry but I am more confused now, than I was after reading your first post!!! [wacko]

    First you said:
    our first IP was suppose to go through yesterday.

    Then you said:
    they said it WOULD go through on the friday. It doesn’t settle until NEXt thursday.

    Am I missing something here?? [blink]

    Let me get this right:

    Settlement is not due till NEXT Thursday? BUT you were told it was going to go through “yesterday” right?? When is “yesterday”?? (Friday or Saturday)

    And if it supposed to go through NEXT Thursday how can it be late??

    I will ask again (forgive my being repetitive) but, IS THE SETTLEMENT DATE DOCUMENTED anywhere and if so, WHAT DATE is stated in same???

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    Jo

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    Geez Yack,

    Don’t be so “anti” fix it!!! [tongue] Sorry, couldn’t resist, you had that coming!!! [whistle]

    Scremin,

    I am confused here, can you please clarify a couple of things for me:

    1. What is a “settlement agent” is that another name for a “conveyancer”???

    2. Who set the settlement date originally??? You say “we” but as both you and the vendor are using the same SA which party did this???

    3. How have you been “inconvenienced” by this one day delay, that is, for compensation to be considered you need to establish, are either you or the vendor, out of pocket in any way??? Or this is situation merely an annoyance.

    4. Was a firm “settlement date” ever documented anywhere, and if so, what is the agents reason for the delay???

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    Jo

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    Hey Karl,

    Hate to tell you but that’s old news. You must not have heard enough as the article to which you refer caused an almighty uproar. This article was read and commented on by a poster from one of the property investment forums (SS I think) and of course it got Mr Jenman seeing RED. Well needless to say it was on!!!

    Here is a link from SS which will fill you in on the rest of the story:

    http://www.somersoft.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18729&highlight=Wraps+SMH

    Happy reading, there is some 70 odd posts to go through. BTW if you do a search, I believe there was a lengthy thread in here too running at the same time.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Hi Ambo,

    Go to your profile page, and near the bottom of the page is a box/section entitled AVATAR, go there select the one you want and when done re-save your profile.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Thanks Byronent,

    I have seen done a little research and apparently both SITE or SIGHT unseen are commonly accepted in the RE industry. My personal preference has always been for “site”[biggrin]

    Slaves

    Take a look at:

    Mount Morgan
    http://www.reports.rpdata.com.au/cgi-bin/vgmsg/RP_Reports/subprofile/rprepgenprofile-pdf.p?type=1&fromhome=1&rep=1&instate=Queensland&insuburb=Mount+Morgan&inpcode=

    Mount Isa
    http://www.reports.rpdata.com.au/cgi-bin/vgmsg/RP_Reports/subprofile/rprepgenprofile-pdf.p?type=1&fromhome=1&rep=1&instate=Queensland&insuburb=Mount+Isa&inpcode=

    http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/[email protected]/0/2619aaebcadda426ca2569ad000402ca?OpenDocument
    For starters, and mayble do a bit more research on both Mount Morgan and Mount Isa before you make any firm decisions.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Try the thread called “The investor’s club founded by Kevin Young” on this very site. Link below:

    https://www.propertyinvesting.com/forum/topic/12991.html

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    Hi Julian,

    Although I don’t have any experience with holiday property letting, I thought you might be interested in the snippet about Australians “Love Affair with Holiday Homes” as per this property website:

    http://www.iproperty.com.au/Content/Content.aspx?TopicId=3748

    BTW [thumbsupanim] it’s a great site which often has valuable bits of info, so it’s worth adding to your favourites and keeping an eye on periodically.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    Originally posted by Bradles C:
    I thought the Scoresby and the Mitcham / Frankston freeway were the same thing ??? [blush2]

    Sorry Brad, not thinking, you’re quite right THEY ARE THE SAME THING [blush2]

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    Brad,

    You got mail!!! [biggrin]

    See the links above in reply to Julie’s query.

    Also, I think you mean the FRANKSTON TO MITCHAM freeway???

    North Frankston is definitely changing, and yes it has some “colourful” types still, but the properties are relatively CHEAP, that is <200K; they will need work and alot of time will need to lapse before you see big growth. However, I firmly believe you will see growth eventually.[biggrin]

    The better choice pockets are Frankston South, Frankston (Central) and Frankston Heights.

    All the best, and again, sorry to hear about the split; always a sad thing to happen. Keep your chin up!!! [sunny]

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    Jo

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    So were Ashburton and/or Ashwood once upon a time, even more so than Frankston North is today. But you try buying in either of these places now, not only are prices better, but the calibre of residents has risen tenfold!!!

    Similarily, I grew up in North Fitzroy, and some of the surrounding areas at that time were “so-so” admittedly not “dodgy.” Nonetheless, I sold my home there years ago for just over the million dollar mark; not bad for an area my friends used to scoff at for being “full of wogs”!!! (please no disrespect intended, I am just quoting what used to get bandied around when I was growing up)

    I understand your point zippy and agree it is not the most desirable area, but I think if you do your homework and research Frankston’s future infrastructure plans (including the new marina, Frankston-Mitcham freeway, and new shopping centre plans) you will find “times are a changin” for the better[biggrin]

    Jo

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    The date you sell it!!!!

    And it also depends on WHAT you are building on it; if it is to be your PPOR then provided you live in it for at least 6 months, you will be CGT exempt.

    If you were to build a rental property on it, then you better hold onto it for at least 12 months in order to get the 50% CGT discounted rate.

    Cheers,

    Jo

    P.S. Use the SEARCH function on left hand side of the screen and type in CAPITAL GAINS TAX and you’ll get pages and pages of threads/posts re this very topic which have been covered over and over again.

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    Ditto both sentiments!!! [thumbsupanim]

    As for firefighters, yep I fully agree; after working with one of Victoria’s fire services I know first hand the dedication and hard work these men and women put in, in the hope of saving life and property, and at the risk of their own lives!!! [angel]

    Cheers,

    Jo

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    I would be surprised to see a huge variation on price values between Sept 04 and Jan 05.[blink] Even so, if it was a PPOR from the word go THERE IS NO CGT to be calculated hence no need for a valuation.[biggrin]

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    People make mistakes. Most people do their best to rectify them.

    And they have!!!

    The purchaser HAS done the MORALLY right thing!!! Which is great IMO.

    I don’t care what you think Yack re which of us is right or wrong, I’m not in it to prove either of us as correct.

    What I felt was uncalled for, was you implying I was “anti” fixing of the problem when I quite CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY said there was ONE option, and that was (again….) TO PLEAD (appeal, does that work better for you??) to the purchaser’s conscience.

    Which basically means YOU DIDN’T READ what I wrote. I at least had the decency Yack to actually offer to remove a post which I thought MAY have been upsetting to you, good to see you were so thoughtful!! [blush2]

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    Yack,

    May I suggest you go back and re-read my posts. I said quite clearly, that there was ONE possible way out to try and get the money from the solicitor at fault!!!

    I don’t know what makes you think I was “anti fixing” the mistake. I believe in doing the right thing (see, I have ethics) HOWEVER, you cannot right a wrong when your hands are tied, and legally speaking there was little option aside from plead to the purchaser’s conscience, which thankfully they possessed!!!

    Are you miffed because I showed you up re the caveat??? If so, I will gladly remove that post; it was not my intention to try and upset you.

    If that is not the case, then I suggest you check your reading glasses.

    Cheers,

    Jo

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