waiheke island for 100K in January, would be worth 250K now. No bull. 127 percent capital gains were documented in the last year, but in the bottom of the market the capital gain has been even higher.

foxton for 58K at that price CF+ve, would be worth 80 now

je ne regrette rien….

enjo, yeah yeah yeah yeah!!!

sooshie!!! you are going WHERE?????

cheers-
darkheadedfella

Carlos Spencer (the NZ all black star) once asked my friend out on a date. she turned him down as she was going out with someone else at the time -but that didn’t last, so needless to say she has been kicking herself ever since….!!!

emmm enjo –

you forgot the zero, that’s 5430….

re:
*little dark-headed fella*

-why do i have to be little? Ah, I know, because of the mini in my name.
can’t that be referring to the size of my property empire? and not my physical stature? I think of myself as ‘medium height’…please, enjo, reconsider your mental picture…

cheers,
Mini,

AKA “dark-headed fella”

or

“dark-headed fella of average height*

*hehe*

I guess that due to the many many references to my swedish hunk of a boyfriend, that’d have to be

“gay dark-headed fella of average height”

ROTFLMAO

(i’m sorry enjo….couldn’t resist….!!)

well muppet
maybe you should get the master franchise then?????
of enjo in NZ?

or get in at the top level of the pyramid or however it works?

mini

hey property888,

as to areas where you could be searching – well, NZ.!!!
don’t know if that was what you wanted to hear, but there it is!

If you look at realenz.co.nz for any areas that have properties for sale for under 50-60K, you should be able to find that they will as often as not be CF+ve. if you want the super-yields then look for structurally sound properties between 20 and 40K and redecorate them. You should then be able to achieve 20 percent- plus yields. including your renovation and maintenance costs.

due your due diligence *thoroughly*, just repeat the phrase ‘buyer beware’ after me….
what i am trying to say is that not every deal on the internet that is listed for a cheap price complete with sitting tenant is a good deal, even though you will fall over yourself with excitement when you see how many good deals there are (still.) But hurry.

Unlike Aus where people are saying ‘don’t buy now, wait for prices to drop’ i would say as far as NZ goes i believe ‘properties at the bottom of the market will never be this cheap again’ – even though price corrections may happen 1-2 years down the track in other sectors of the market.

cheers-
Mini

after reading ‘the one minute millionaire’ which gives a brilliant rationale about why we should tithe from no matter what one’s religious beliefs (that rationale in a nutshell, is that the book aims to create one million millionaires, who give away ten percent to the community. statistics prove that each millionaire crreates ten new jobs. so and if that happened – along with the charity of the million millionaires tithing – the book claims, that happening could change the economic future of the world. i love that thought! and it gives a good ‘non-religious’ rationale to the whole idea, if you happened to be not that way inclined.
and if you are that way inclined, well God says to tithe…and that he will multiply it….(westan you’ll be able to pinpoint the exact wording of this?)

mini

castle, something you said struck me – “I am seriously chasing financial independence, but I have soul searched, and would have to say that at the end of the day, I would be prepared to give it all up if that was what was called for.”

I like that a lot.

dino – !!!!!!! really does it say that!!! God doesn’t seem to have a very high opinion of wrappers, in that case, or even people who put money in the bank.

actually, my mother taught me never to lend things. just to give it to them. that the person asking needs it more than you do.

hi richmond!!! *weeeeheeee*

“the increasing dissent in Washington about how they went to war on the basis of a pack of lies”

totally!!!

!!!!!!!!

But I guess that’s what I mean about people finding out the truth too late.
I guess my problem is more with the wars and stuff. coverage of it, angles, selling it to the public as a good idea.

I’m not saying that the media (there’s that blanket term again, sorry, but i don’t know what else to call it – ) is all bad. i mean, we need it!
It’s obviously brilliant on a local and community level, like the hospital/cancer kids story you mentioned. it’s also easier to go talk to people about stuff for local issues than it is to check some facts that don’t add up with say George bush, or colin powell.

I also think ACA and TT have their place. I have this friend, she’s found out that – in a nutshell – there are laws to protect the public good -(from chemical poisoning) – they are being broken by corporations – they are not being enforced.

one of her best chances is to take all her evidence to TT or ACA and get the issue publicised. Many issues need publicity to get actions taken. However, of course (the catch 22) is that TT or ACA will only be interested in the story if it’s ‘newsworthy’ – i.e. sensational in some way.

ah well, on we go,

cheers-
Mini

PS
yeah interest rates, i don’t mind if they rise. Dolf De Roos bought his first property when interest rates were 27 percent and still made a killing in rent – because of course nobody was buying then…

hi again Richmond!!!

yeah i like your posts too!! and i also respect you as an intelligent person with whom i’m debating…hehe…

> The government does not control the media.

I didn’t say that??? but come to think about it, how does an Australian journalist get anything *other* than the US press release which arrives in time for the 6 o’clock news complete with pretty pictures? So they screen that.

“press secretaries always try and put their “spin” on things”

…they sure do, that much we agree,

“but I’m stunned to think that you believe we just swallow it hook line and sinker.”

i think there is a lot of swallowing going on, actually – not because people are stupid and gullible, but they are too busy to get any info from sources other than the tellie, most nights…

>There are often stories on TV and in the paper critical of >governments, be they budget blackholes that they have tried >to cover up, or general policy blunders that might have been >overlooked had it not been for a journo uncovering them.

totally. thank god. but notice the timing of those. by the time these journalists find out this stuff it is way after the event – months, years, decades! and it’s kinda too late.

>By the way, the media is very different here than in the US…

really?????!!!!! I don’t see much difference…i think it’s easier to see in another country than ones’ own.

>Aus is totally linked to the US.
ahm,,,, yeh…….

>I was shocked myself to see the blind patriotism shown >when I was there 12 months before Sept 11. Watching CNN and Fox after Sept 11, some of the angles taken in their stories >were a disgrace. I’d love to believe that people “think” more >when they’re listening to the radio, watching the telly or >reading the paper, but it’s a fact that a lot of people just >couldn’t be bothered, and will take whatever information >they’re fed as being set in stone.

this is the bit where i totally agree with you and tried to say exactly the same thing before.

>That’s not the media’s fault.

aaaaaahhhhmmmmm. *clears throat*
I don’t GET how you can say that! Who’s fault is it then????

>A lot of people are too busy simply trying to make ends meet >and look after their families to be worried with the “bigger >issues”.

yes……

“.. it’s a shame, but that’s the way it is…”

The biggest problem I have with your whole post is this sentence – to me, that’s a passive acceptance that we are powerless and there’s nothing we can do. But of course we can do stuff, absolutely, look at Erin Brockovitch types.
I think it’s brilliant that some people – investigative journalists included – possess the calling to go out on a limb and find stuff out for the enlightenment of everybody.

“I agree that things should be taken in perspective, and it’s a sign of a healthy society that things on telly or in print should be taken with a grain of salt. “

OK, now we’re back to agreeint!!

>However, I think, in this case, that your views are a bit >paranoid

who me, paranoid? *looks over shoulder nervously*
no seriously – I don’t like live my life in fear or anything, however I KNOW – not just believe – that in various ways, world governments are wanting increasing knowledge about the actions of their people. Whether that is just so that ‘terrorists can be apprehended before they strike’ or whether that’s the ‘fear’ reasoning given so we’ll all go for it, i don;t know – but check out these stories –

http://news.com.com/2010-1069-980325.html

and

http://news.com.com/2010-1071-979276.html?tag=nl

This isn’t conspiracy stuff, as far as i can tell, it’s just mainstream internet news.

>and that sweeping statements generalising the >entire media >(which is bloody big) are a little bit off the mark…

ok maybe I meant ‘the tellie’. ooops, that didn’;t make it any easier on you then, sorry…..

>we are not all unethical (some are) or liars (some are) or >puppets of higher powers (again, some are).

i agree. But I guess, I don’t like that it’s possible for even SOME to be puppets of higher power.

>As I said, I just don’t like simplistic, sweeping generalisations >of any sector,

no – me neither. but the trouble here is that because you are in the media yourself, in television, then you can differentiate between which channels, people, networks, programmes are good and which aren’t so good. whereas me, as a punter, doesn’t necessarily remember on which channel I saw the things I felt were totally biased and fear-mongering.

>That’s not to say you’re entirely wrong… we just have >different opinions on the matter.

i’m ok with that if you are!!
we partially agree then,,,,

>I alluded to before, what happens in the American media is a >whole different discussion to what goes on in the Australian >media, it’s like comparing apples with oranges…

I really think that Australia is buddy buddies with the US these days and lines are blurring more and more.

> I’m defending >the Oz media, or at least, some sections of >it…

yes indeed – your section, i presume,,,,and that;s OK….

>as I said before, I have issues with the crap that ACA and TT >cover)

can you speak of some of these issues?

cheers-
Mini

Hi Richmond,

> I can assure you there is no grand plan of supporting certain >political points of view that is happening (with us anyway).

i totally disagree, there always is – per country, if not exactly per station. The telly IS the voice of the government – this isn’t something i got off a conspiracy site either – this is what I have figured out after travelling to the US after sept 11 and seeing what they see on TV and the slant it was given, and also watching it on NZ tv too. shockingly biased – what they show, and what they leave out. And if you don’t KNOW what they leave out, you don’t know it exists….and most people only get their news from the tellie….so if it’s not on telly it didn’t happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and they show what they want to show to have the desired effect. Just know that (in NZ at least, and i’m sure it is the same in Aus) the government is concerned about the housing boom and WANTS people to start getting back into investing in the sharemarket and businesses – wealth creating things, from the country’s point of view. So they WANT to slow the market, so putting out a few press releases, edited quotes from experts saying the market will slow, and the resulting fear spread by the media, makes it happen.

To me that is all pretty obvious.

>True, some reporters can be classed as scum, but not all of >us in the media are… and yes, we depend on ratings, it’s our >measure of success, just like newspaper circulation, just as >sales measure the success of so many other businesses.

Yep, and…the media controls the music industry, by deciding what they will and won’t play, what they think their advertisers will like. The public only get to hear what passed through that bottleneck. that’s why people complain about the radio being bland and boring – it’s because only that kind of song gets through. you only get to hear about 1 percent of what’s released on the radio.!

>”The media” is not some headless beast trying to take over >the world,

no, but IF there was a headless beast trying to take over the world and they were a smart headless beast, they would use the media to spread lies and disinformation, in order to divide and then conquer…a la napoleon – hey it worked for years – the reason it works is because fear is so damn contagious.

ever played the game of risk? Sometimes i wonder if someone is playing risk with the world. One by one countries get made bankrupt and taken over…countries with resources buoying whole economies coincidentally have wars which they lose, and then the countries that needed the resources end up with them….

>narrow view point the media itself is too often accused of >having.

well, i’m afraid that….the news seems to be the focal point of the viewpoint du jour, and that always seems one-sided with a token ‘appeal for perspective’. I mean, perspective isn’t something we can take for granted any more –

so i’m always going to be one of those people who will ‘appeal for perspective’ – and take everything i read or hear or see on tellie with a grain of salt – and continue to read, ask questions, and THINK!

cheers-
mini