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Should have explained it better. What I mean by negative cashflow for equity is a renovated house on large block with future sub-division potential and lots of improvements going on in suburb. A property I purchased for $300,000 3yrs ago would be worth over $1million if I divided into 3 blocks. And my other property I bought 2yrs ago for $185,000 is now worth $400,000 and when I can subdivide it later this year it should be worth about another $150,000 – $200,000. So I’ve enjoyed the growth and would like to continue buying like this but cashflow and lending does become an issue. Thanks for your comments Marc. Regards, Linda
I was just wondering the same thing in my own circumstances and posted a similar question. My 2 properties are negative geared and should be positive cashflow in about a year. I have previously been advised by bank and financial advisor to go for positive properties to offset negative cashflow properties. Is that what you were thinking too Devo76? My bank has also said that they don’t take income from tax return into consideration so I am wondering if I should invest in a positive geared property opposed to positive cashflow property so I can buy more properties as I’ve already got plenty of equity.
We tiled over tiles and it saves a lot of money and looks great. When I told the tenants that lived there for 2 years they were very surprised. Regards, Linda
Try http://www.ato.gov.au Form is (Nat2036) ITWB. If you can’t find it give them a call and they’ll give you instructions on how to print forms. These were my instructions but they could be old: http://www.ato.gov.au, in top right search 2036, choose ‘5’ go. Link 2 (Nat2036), ITWB or print. Regards, Linda
Hi Gina, I found myself in a similar position recently also. I self manage my properties and approx 6 weeks before end of tenancy I sent a letter to my tenants telling them what the expected rental return was and what I would charge them, giving them a discount for being such good tenants. They do some of the maintenance and have made a couple of improvements out of their own money. I hadn’t raised their rent in 2yrs and I raised it by $40/week and they were happy because they know they are getting cheap rent. We’re happy with no vacancy, no workload of finding new tenants and only have to worry about major repairs at the moment as we’re a bit time poor. I’ll be doing some improvements myself in the next year and then hiking the rent up. I need maximum cashflow so the banks will let me buy more properties (as well as equity of course). So I wouldn’t hold back at putting the rent up if it’s due, and if it makes you sleep easier at night, a small discount. I’d also ask your property manager if a fan,etc would increase rental value before going through expense.
Hi Ben and Jodie, Where are your units in Perth? Where in Qld are you moving to? I’m from Bris, moved to Perth 8 yrs ago.
Thanks LA Aussie. Your always so informative. I really like Margaret Lomas too, but only wish I took her advice when I read her books years ago. I’m now re-reading them to get back on track. You can only have so many neg geared properties, till you run out of cashflow…..
How to Create an Income for Life – Margaret Lomas is a good read.
I have experienced this response myself from Perth experts in property. You have to trust your own instincts and work out your own investment formula. Good luck!!!!!![biggrin]
I would go for it. Don’t forget landlords and house and contents insurance. If you want to be ultra careful there is also an insurance for trades people caring out repairs on property in case of injury. Applies to WA but not sure about other states.
We’ve got 101 and 202. We paid about $300 for both when we attended a seminar about 8 yrs ago. I think it’s O.K although I couldn’t imagine sitting around with friends playing and after playing with husband once he finds it too boring. My kids love to muck around with the 2 games Age 5 & 8. I think by the time they get a bit older it will be very dated and not make as much sense. Have you tried looking in the newspapers if your a bit concerned about ebay for second hand ones – or try a WANTED ad? I’m sure there’s plenty around not being used.
I did this on first ppor. Can be treated two ways – (1) As a private nature – do not need to claim income (2) Neg gear. You will have to pay CGT on this portion when you sell though 2/3.
Here’s another perspective for you. An old school friend of mine got paid compensation when she became 18 from a car accident when she was 8wks old. She bought a house in a cheap suburb in Brisbane. Her mortgage was only about $30,000. She got involved with wrong crowd and wasn’t brainy at all. The last time I saw her she had rented out every room, including the lounge room to her new druggy mates. The smell of dust in the house was making me feel ill and this lovely well maintained house she’d purchased a year earlier had turned into a dump. I heard stories for a while about stolen cars in the garage, garbage bags of syringes coming from the house while I was getting phone calls off my old friend begging for money so her house wouldn’t get repossesed. I never helped knowing it would go on drugs. After some time it did get repossed. – Maybe a year or so later. She contacted me some years later and told me of her initial $40000 she put in she ended up losing it all plus owed the bank about $5000. At that stage she had 3 kids, said she was off the drugs but the father of her last 2 kids was on speed…….. bit of a recipe for disater. It’s a sad story but if you were to buy her house, I wouldn’t be feeling guilty.
Have also read, but would check with accountant, that you can move back in just before 6 years is up on ppor, then move out again and be eligible for another 6yrs.
Hi Wayne, if you had to sell any properties I suggested you sell the 3×2 as you have the most equity in it and could pay off most of your PPOR debt. I think if your looking at CF+ properties they may offset the CF- property that you keep. Another thing that I would consider though is capital growth. Is one block substantially bigger then the other? Is one block in a much better location? Is one property harder to rent than the other? Is there more depreciation in the bigger home? I would take these into consideration too. Write it all down. Good luck.
I’d consider selling 3×2 to pay off PPoR and keep 4×2. Rent will definately go up and you’ve alreading spent heaps on stamp duty. I think being coastal CG will continue to be good.
Bridgebuff, let me know how you go on your first venture. I’ve got two small development sites in Perth and still in process of researching and I need to wait for zoning changes to proceed. . It’s a lot more involved than I first thought but it’s getting easier. I’m planning on sub-dividing and selling vacant block as first project and second project developing and keeping as rental properties. Good luck with it.
Try Members Equity. Their lending criteria is stricter but I haven’t found any cheaper lending institution. You’ll have to talk through your plans with them to see if the suit your strategy. Unless your a high income earner in Executive position you don’t seem to be able to negotiate cheaper rates.
I would really love to hear some real life stories from investors who buy CF+ properties. And some stories from CF- investors and investors who have held a balance of both. It would be interesting to see how these different strategies have panned out. Please include dates, equity, cashflow and which states of Aus and other contributing factors. eg renovation, new infrastructure, zoning changes etc.
ATO website or talking to them are sometimes useful. Make sure you keep every receipt.