Alexander, easiest way is to click on the Search button and type in your query.
But, as it’s easy
Take the rent, say $120 pw. Divide b 2 = $60. Multiply by 1000 = $60,000.
$60K is the price you’d want to purchase the property renting at $120pw for. Alternatively, if you bought a $60K property, you’d want it to rent for $120pw.
This is a really quick filter to find what properties return 10.4% rent v price. More research needs to be done to determine if it’s cashflow positive (other expenses need to be considered) and a good area etc. etc.
As a purchaser I would definitely push them to accept a lower deposit – and in fact have never paid more than 5%.
As a vendor, it depends how keen I am to sell if I will accept less than 10%. I haven’t yet accepted less than 5% though – not on a property that went on to exchange anyway.
James, trusts don’t actually pay tax. You can reduce the tax payable by distributing to beneficiaries on lower brackets.
There are heaps of advantages for trusts, tax minimisation and asset protection wise. For a really good, plain english explanation, get Dale GG’s Tax Battles and Trust Magic.
As has been stated, a disadvantage is that trusts do not recieve land tax thresholds, and no CGT exemption on selling PPOR. If you don’t plan on selling your PPOR, then of course, that isn’t a problem.
Shaun, Dolf has never had a job in his life, so no income to offset from wages.
If you concentrate on places with lots of depreciation, you can turn what is a positively geared property before tax into a negative one after tax. This means $$$ in your pocket, and no tax to pay. This could also help to offset other $$ positive places where there isn’t much depreciation.
Castle Dreamer, you can leave your PPOR for up to 6 years, and claim it as in IP, and depreciate and all that stuff that you’d do for a normal IP.
The beauty is that if you move back in within 6 years, there is no CGT, even on the depreciation that you claimed!! Beautiful.
I just finished reading Dale GG’s Trust Magic, and he talks about the 6 year rule in this. He says it used to be only 3 years. Why did it change? Well, the politicians (who else?) realised that at the end of their careers, they could get a lucrative diplomatic post overseas. These were typically for 6 years.
Sooooo, if the rules stayed at 3 years, they would have to pay CGT on their house when they returned home, sold it and bought a better one with all their extra dollars!!!! So as a group, they changed it to 6 years.
When I have signed contracts with $1000 deposit, balance is payable on settlement.
I think there is some clause in the contract that says ‘Should you fall over and the contract does not complete, you owe the remainder of the 10% as a debt to the vendor’ (of course, these are not the exact words, but you get the picture).
A deposit can be anything you negotiate – you could use your car, or boat, or bike etc. Agents will try and get as much out of you as possible, cos that’s where their commission comes from, and they are guaranteed of getting it if it’s in their trust account. Otherwise, it has to come at settlement through the solicitor, and if contract doesn’t complete, it’s harder for them to get it.
If you plan to sell one of the PPORs, I would definitely as a first point pay off the remaining loan on the other one. This is non deductible debt, and should be vanquished!!!
Then you have the choices to find +ve properties that will offset your -ve ones, or pay some off the IPs. If you can find good properties that are +ve, I would buy one or two or three of them (you could even put down larger deposits), and aim for cashflow from them.
If you have a long term strategy, and are willing to hold for at least 10 years, then you will ride through this end of the boom, and be into the next one. My strategy is that the more properties I have, the better off I am when there is growth – 5% growth on $1Mil worth of properties is $50,000. 5% growth on $200,000 is only $10,000. (That is the ‘predicted’ rate of growth in a down market). If your holding costs are nil, then more property is better.
Kat, all valid points on LVRs etc, but there’s no way I would recommend cross collateralising for many reasons that have been discussed on these boards previously.
Instead, a LOC/Second mortgage (same bank as PPOR loan and at standard rates) against the PPOR to use as the deposit. This will mean that there are two separate loans for the IP, but both are deductible and investment debt. It’s the purpose for which the money is borrowed, not the security.
Shaun, if you delay longer in selling your IP to the trust, chances are it will go up in value, and you will pay more CGT. And more stamp duty on a more expensive property. something to be very aware of.
As for your PPOR, that’s not a huge issue CGT wise, but is for stamp duty, and is if you are looking at renting it from yourself.
Just to clarify Rugbyfan’s point about Land Tax in ACT. There is NO threshold for anyone who has IPs. No matter what the value is, you pay the tax. They don’t add the values of the properties together though – it’s a levy on the particular property, no matter who owns it as IP.
Thanks for the explanations guys, but my point was that I found some cheap properties really easily, not that I want to buy any. I’m in Canberra, so not quite ready to venture North yet. I’ve got good friends who live in Yeppoon, and they won’t even give me helpful advice about Rocky, except that ‘it’s a hole’!!
A mutual friend did buy there, but had to do it all on her own, which was a bit disappointing as we had someone ‘on the ground’ up there.
Talk to all the agents in the town to check out the rental demand.
Also, I know that Steve’s book focussed on properties under $100K, but it’s my experience (and I spoke with a few agents this weekend in country towns – Gunnedah/Boggabri especially), and their opinion (and mine too now that I’ve seen some of these places) is that they are cheap places because they are cheap. Good tenants with halfway decent incomes can afford to be a bit more discerning, and only pay an extra $20-30 per week, to get a much better property.
Perhaps look for some that the purchase price is a little higher, and maybe newer, and go for some depreciation as well – you have the taxable income to wear some neg geared/pos cashflow places.
I would recommend as a first point of call visiting http://www.gatherumgoss.com and purchasing both the ‘Tax Battles’ and ‘Trust Magic’ manuals written by Dale Gatherum Goss. I rec’d them on Friday, and read them in two sittings.
Absolute must read for those wishing to use a trust structure, and also wishing to invest with other people also using trust structure.
Tony Robbins has made a heck of a lot of money doing other things. He runs about 9 different companies (I think), and took one public in the last few years, making $400 million in one day, as just one example.
If it was something like a TV that was easily ‘removable’ and had a definite shelf life, I would include it as a ‘gift’ to the tenant if they stayed for say, 2 years, paying an extra $20 or so per week. If it’s included in the house, I believe that you can depreciate it, so you also cover some of your costs this way.