Terry, I think you might find that there will be a summary sheet in future versions.
I massacred Fudge’s spreadsheet and sent it back to him. Part of that included a summary, but we have to work on making it so that it works for everybody. Because Fudge’s strategy is quite not unique, but not ‘universal’, we need to have a think how to accomodate others who have a different strategy.
If you and anybody else want to give examples of what should be in the summary page, I’m sure Fudge would be more than happy to look at it.
At about the time my sister and her husband were buying a PPOR, my folks were looking to buy a house on the South Coast – their ‘retirement house’. I tried (in vain) to get my sister and her husband to buy the one down the coast, and my folks to buy the one they wanted up here.
Even did heaps of numbers (i’m a numbers person) for them to show how much better off they would be taxwise, and how much quicker they could pay the house off, but no, brother in law wouldn’t be in it.
Funny that the house my folks bought has gone up (conservatively) 250%, and my sister’s house almost 200%.
If you are serious about making an offer – get your finance pre approved, and you can make an offer with a quick settlement. Depending on the vendor’s needs, this may entice them to accept a lower offer.
If you live in it for 18 months as a PPOR, will the bank give you finance on an IO basis?
If you then go overseas and the rent = payments, why sell? In 18 months it could well be a bad time to sell, but if it can pay its own way try to keep it for a few years – until the market next turns up.
I would suggest that the first thing you do is sit down and write out a plan for yourself. Work out such things as the cashflow you want per week/month etc. Then work out how much equity you want, how much cash etc.
Then start talking to friends/family who might be interested in investing with you.
I think Pinky said ‘boss, we’re moving house on the weekend of ?? Nov, and it’s a real pain, and we’ve got all this stuff to pack and unpack, and, and, and. Would you do me a real favour and …….. absolutely refuse to give me the day off?’ Pause. ‘Thanks boss, I knew I could count on you. Now, can I have that in writing?’
The test of whether your property is positive or negatively geared comes from how much you get in rent versus the costs. It won’t matter as to what the value of the place is.
If the one above does sell for $159K that is good for you, but for the banks to value it at that they will want more evidence than just one sale.
The contracts could have fallen through for any number of reasons – lower valuation could be one of them.
As for 100% loan for you next deal, it depends how much it will cost. Assuming you do get a valuation of $160K for yours, the bank will lend a total of $128K without mortgage insurance. You can use the extra cash as a deposit for the next deal, but for the financing of it will depend on the purchase price and subsequent valuation.
Yes Pebbles, definitely try to hold for 12 months. If you sell for less than that it’s not acutally CGT, it just gets straight out added to your income. Ouch![]
I think that’s where we see the beauty of trusts!![][][}][]
Basically, the Taxman says you owe me $x (or more likely $xxxx[!])! You say – I don’t have it! You do not ‘own’ the assets in the trust, they are held for the beneficiaries (as long as you aren’t the only beneficiary). As the trustee has discretion (discretionary trust only, not unit trust) as to who gets ANY money at ANY time, you cannot count on receiving any income.
If you have to go bankrupt because you cannot pay the taxman (which is something to avoid if at all possible), then for whatever period, make sure that you do not get any distributions, as part of that income can be taken by creditors during the bankrupt (non discharged) stage.
In regards to the taxman deciding not to sue, and just ‘going away’ I don’t believe that he (it must be a he!) works like that.
The taxman will assess/audit you, and if they say you’ve done the wrong thing, they will impose a penalty. I do not believe that they care whether or not you have the money to pay it back, or if their penalties will send you bankrupt[xx(] (it is a government bureaucracy after all!)
They just say, pay up, and if you don’t, we’ll charge you penalties of 11 or 12% until you do. I’m not sure how long they then give you if you haven’t got it.
I hope I’ve answered your question, if not, post back.
Sorry Fudge, I pulled that table from there too, and when answering your query must have had stuck in my head the 43 part of the 43.5% medicare inclusive.[]
Hi C2, I will go and have a look. I had to type that response really quickly as my Dad wanted the computer, and I hoped to be able to come back to it before anybody else read it![]
OK, Found it, but must admit when I read it I didn’t think you were asking another question.
I was going to answer it here, but I’ll answer it in that thread for the benefit of others.
Towlie, it depends on what you want to achieve. If you are going to be buying lots of properties, I would seriously consider your structures – ie are trusts going to be good for you etc. etc.
If you have a discretionary or hybrid trust, you can both be beneficiaries, and decide who gets the income at tax time. You can also add any kids as and when they happen – makes it easier in the future!!
If you’re not ready to go the trust route, put it in your name – your positive properties should cover any loss (hopefully).
You could do Tenants in Common 50/50 if you wanted to as well.
Don’t forget yours Muppet – at 259!! And I think the 15 should be 51, or 52 now as Castle has obviously posted again.
You’re right though. It’s quite interesting that only senior (with respect to no of posts, not necessarily knowledge!) people have posted (with the exception of the ‘young at postings’ Shaun and Castle.
Hey Fudge, I bet you’ll find that you keep ‘improving’ your spreadsheet – I know I always do with mine. I’m quite disappointed when I can’t think of anything else to add!
Muppet, I agree, there’s nothing more frustrating than seeing people ignore the instructions people give on how to get hold of something.[]
With regard to Foxtel, I would consider paying the ‘install’ fee, which basically allows it to be wired up to your house – and stays with the house, but for the actual subscription – if the tenant wants it they can pay for it.
We have a unit in a block of 119 (actually it’s four blocks with a courtyard in the middle) and the quote from foxtel to make it accessible to individual units was something like $80K! Thankfully the body corporate agreed that not at this time!
Cheers
Mel
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