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  • Profile photo of mcwongmcwong
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    Yes, the $5K is on top of the fed. govt. first
    home owner grant $7k. Though, the Vic FHOB(onus)
    lasts for I think 14 months only, and it’s in the
    form of $$ for FHO to spend in any way one may
    like, even to buy something other than property!

    Profile photo of mcwongmcwong
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    I guess the debatable issue here is that I am not
    “selling” the subdivided lot to the family
    member, and therefore no real $$ involved in the
    transaction. So, I would have though for stamp
    duty calculation sake, the valuation requirement
    will still apply … but not the CGT issue,
    certainly not to me being the original owner now
    parting part of the property for $0 gain.
    In real term, not withstanding the CG, I am losing
    half the block materially, so my instinct tells me
    it should have been treated as a capital loss
    event for me ….[biggrin]I am hoping which will
    provide tax break for me in the future CG event.

    Thanks for all your replies so far!

    MCW

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    Considering myself a newbie in property investment
    the inputs here have been really good education
    for me.

    There is only one main issue that keep sticking
    out at the back of my mind stopping me from taking
    the next step in investing in more IP.

    All investments (stocks or IP) require capital $$
    to get into and for most it means mortgage/loan.
    In order to make the whole exercise work, be it
    -cf or +cf, the bottom line key factor is the
    cashflow! Just like running a biz, one could be
    profitable but without the cashflow as the life
    blood, it can choke survivability.

    Till this day, I have still not been able to find
    a good safety net to cover for income loss due
    to job loss in order to sustain -ve geared investment besides my own living.

    It’s great to have tax-break especially for high
    incomer earners, but I can’t help thinking of
    the reality if one losts his job & can no longer
    get the same level of income & cashflow to fund
    the -cf gap. It will surely have a big impact on
    the overall plan, won’t u agree ?

    Guess I am paranoid, but I have yet to find a
    strategy or system that could let me invest with
    peace of mind and not having to solely rely on
    the main income source as the cashflow to service
    the loan.

    Any comments on that ?

    MCW

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    Thanks for the reply, Dave.
    Any idea of a 3rd party company who can does a
    quality DD on potential wrapee, short of going for
    a realestate agent ?

    Thanks
    MCW

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    Hi

    I am newbie as well but my opinion is that, having
    to choose between paying ATO and the bank, I will
    choose the latter, ie refinance the IP1 to get
    access to its equity, provided it has some!

    CGT could be as high as 48.5% (but one-off) vs
    bank interest rate <10% though ongoingly. If you
    have other IPs that are already +CF, that may well
    cover off any short fall from the IP1 that is
    refinanced for purpose of getting access to its
    equity.

    I have interesting discussion on topic of this
    nature with various parties and the concensus
    seems to be that u need about 5 +CF IP to help
    you refinace another IP to access its equity as
    “free money” that can be used for lifestyle. I
    have no idea of where the number 5 comes from, it
    may well be just a reflection of individual’s
    situation I spoke to. But the more +CF IP one have
    the better off one can be that’s for sure!

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