Leeanne75
As much as I would like to give you an easy answer, there really isn’t one. If there was some magic town/suburb where all property was positively geared then it would be snapped up pretty quickly wouldn’t it. It comes down to looking around, QLD has better opportunities than most states. Many people buying +geared at the moment are buying in rural towns. It is getting harder and harder to find them as this market keeps moving up. Sorry I can’t be more help, but the only way to track down a great deal is with a lot of research. Things like rental yields for area’s, migration patterns, housing prices for an area etc.
Apparently building figures released this morning show another increase, but it was mainly attributed to appartments not houses. I think there is still some growth in the market though not at the same speed we have seen over the past few years. Interest rates are tipped to go up half a % over the next year, I don’t think that will slow things very much. At the moment I think that is the only thing that is going to really put things in neutral a huge increase in interest rates, people who are in over their heads will have to sell up quickly and supply will be more in line with demand. I think the key to the market crash is interest rates *states the obvious* I don’t know enough about our economy to predict when they will go up in a big way but from what I read it won’t be for a few years at least. The equities market has also had a good turn over the past few quarters, I don’t know how many investors are looking at putting more dollars into stocks………crashy???
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Yeah I have believed for a while that QLD still has some growth. One of the valid points someone on this forum raised against it is the job market here. I do agree having moved here recently I know lots of newcomers looking for work, it is there but not as easy to find. Mind you that is just annecdotal *cannot spell* evidence, does anyone know the unemployment figures for QLD as compared to the national average. I couldn’t see anything up to date on the ABS site?
I don’t know if I am bored at work, I just use the quite times in the morning and lunch time to have a look at what is going on. I am pretty addicted to the forum so sometimes that is hard.
Oh yeah I work in IT also as a sys admin/manager.
I wouldn’t waste my time asking the vendor if it is a nice area etc, they can easily lie as they have a vested interest. In some contracts for sale it stipulates that the Vendor has to provide you the names of ajoining neighbours if you ask. I would certainly do that. Then rock up on a weekend and see if anyone near the place is out in the front lawn and are willing to have a chat. If you can pick the right type of person (old people are normally the best) then you can get all kinds of info as long as you are polite and don’t pry to much. I have found that if I say I am looking at buying the house people are more than happy to help.
With regards to making sure the property isn’t attached to neighbours property, that is a tough one and wouldn’t mind someone else fielding that, I am buying a house and land package and there are heaps of things in the contract about the Vendor having no responsibility if the fence isn’t on the property line etc, I am not sure where to start checking those kind of things???
Thanks very much Mel. It wasn’t for refinancing just trying to get an idea if my PPOR is good value. I will give them a call, thanks for the pest inspection contact also.
Hello,
On a slightly seperate but related topic. You can take a Contract of sale to most Conveyancing solicitors and they will review it for you at no cost (with no obligation to do conveyancing through them). You can do this before you sign it if you feel that you have time and are not confident with these legal documents.
I am not expert but I did until recently live in Canberra for 22 years. North Lyneham is certainly a good area location wise, but I think you would find it very difficult to get positive cashflow properties there at the moment. With regards to Canberra in general I would wait to see what the market does there it could be very close to its peak.
I think like most things it is a case of due dilligence. I am in a similar position right now with getting my PPOR, I went to see 4 banks before I spoke to a mortgage broker so I could see what was out there myself. Didn’t take long maybe half a day I would just walk into a bank and say I wanted to talk to someone about getting a home loan, most places were happy so see me a few scheduled an appointment for the next day. When I spoke to a broker I found him to be good and informative but seemed to disgregard certain products, I believe this is because he couldn’t get business with those lenders (or however the whole comission thing works for them). At the moment I am in a position where I will probably go with one of the banks I researched myself but still take some of the brokers advice with regards to product selection. I have a fridge magnet that for me sums up my outlook, it goes something like this “Do not believe anything that anyone tells you. Even if I tell you, do not believe until you discover it for yourself”[Buddah]. This is the first property I have ever bought so I have had to learn pretty much everything myself, some people are helpful with their advice others proclaiming to be experts when you investigate what they say it turns out to be wrong. I think the best advice I recieved on this forum to date has been to do your research, and that is with everything to do with property including your finance. The other thing I would say is when you get your loan don’t set and forget it, review it regularly look around and see if their is a better deal, most loans don’t attact a penalty for leaving after 3 years, if you are looking at a 8.5% interest rate certainly changing over when you have some more equity could save you thousands.
The option I am currently looking at is –
First year 5.25%, change over to another product @ cost of $300 (will save me approx $1700 in first year). I have also been able to negotiate the application fee being waved by negotiating directly with the lender, the broker was unable to do this.
Finally, best of luck.
I for one don’t think they should or will abolish negative gearing. IMHO any time the government fiddles with a market to change it’s dynamics they just make things worse….for everyone. The suggestion it could be better spent to benefit the community is laughable. I work in government and see money wasted every day that could better benefit the community. Since I am in a govt slamming mood [], have read of this I think it is a great article.
Housesonly, I live in QLD also, great place isn’t it []
Some of the reasearch I have read suggests QLD could move up another 10 – 20% by 2003, after that things could become more interesting again, I think Warren Buffet is the one who said 2008 is the year to look out for with regards to the baby boomers so look for them to come in droves. Your point about the job market is extremely valid I could not agree more. I quite often to go Caboolture and it amazes me the amount of shops and industry going on there, people appear to come from everywhere to work there, glass house mountains etc, I have never been able to explain what keeps it going??? I guess my main point was I think there is more chance of QLD experiencing growth before a fall (and perhaps a softer fall than down south) as opposed to Syd, Melb and Canberra. From speaking to my mortgage broker a great deal of the purchases he is making from external investors quite a few foreign so they really don’t need to worry about getting jobs locally. I certainly did not mean the QLD boom would never end of course it is cyclical.
I am more a newbie than an “experienced property investor” but from my own research and reading of this forum I would say hold off for the crash in Sydney, Canb and Melb. QLD still has some potential for growth due to it being a little behind, seachange effect and migration patterns but it certainly isn’t easy.
Since the release of Steve’s book this forum has attracted a great deal of newbie attention and most of them seem to like talking about positve cashflow property. They seem pretty excited like I was when I first read about the idea, but the fact is that there are not many around and you really need to know what you are doing. Sometimes I think this forum makes investing look easier than it is, investing is sustained hard work.
I would advise newbie’s to do their research before diving in. The more you learn the better your chances.
That was a great post, really informative and useful as I am also looking at the Trust/company structure with its various pro’s and cons. Can I ask where your information was sourced? I am wondering how useful you found wealth guardian to be?
Thanks for the tip Birdman I will check it out. I am looking at a couple of estates they are building in a North Brisbane suburb. One is mainly stand alones houses on small blocks, while the other is more the semidetached townhouse style you refer to.
Thanks for the responses guys/gals?? Point taken re: Government interference. I understand it has always been difficult to take that first step however I think the current figure is that housing affordability is at it’s heighest point in 13 years, so I think something can be said for the current market getting more difficult in my time (13 years ago I was in year 7).
Crashy your point about waiting and rent not being dead money is a good one, I am trying to plan an investment portfolio and shares/managed funds will obviously form part of that. However the share market isn’t particularly strong at the moment either (which often means it is a good time to buy up) and one thing that concerns me is that I feel it would be an opportunity missed to let the FHOG slip past me. Though I suppose that would be irrelevant if house prises fell 10% or so??? Of course when you put money into your own home you do increase your equity, putting it into rent puts it into someone elses equity.
To a certain extent I do agree with you Crashy. Certianly being lazy is not going to make anyone rich. One of the things I have picked up from my readings and conversations with wealthy people is that they all do work hard. But working hard is relative, they love what they do, whether it is buying property, trading/investing shares or whatever they have a geniune passion for wealth creation. They certainly do get their fair share of time to relax playing golf and the like but, working for them is not being a “sheep” it is dynamic and exciting. I for one would be bored out of my brains if I didn’t work for a living, but by the same token having the choice to work in an area that you are passionate about…well it doesn’t really sound like work does it?
Your situation sounds very similar to mine (except of the getting burnt part [] ) I was looking at maybe using the FHOG plus some of my savings to get my PPOR. Then using the rest of my savings to buy a place with an Interest only loan. I would use the Rent money to pay extra off my PPOR mortgage for a while, when the rental property increases in value (hopefully) then I would sell and use the Capital gains to buy property under a buy + hold method and maybe pay a little more off my home. That is how I am thinking at them moment anyhow, I am pretty young and still learning but that is just another idea I was looking at. Hope I have been of some help.
Just a quick note on CFD’s and dealforfree. I went to one of their seminars and the concept looked pretty good to me. But then again I am new to stocks so am trying to learn before more before diving in and using leverage. One point with regards to cost that doesn’t appear to have been picked up in this thread is that at the moment the ASX will charge you directly for viewing real time data through the dealforfree site. Apparently they are the only exchange in the world that does this and I think the cost is about $30 per month? Not a huge cost but just thought you should know. The CFD people certainly didn’t seem to like talking about it when an unhappy customer ambushed the seminar I was in. Dealforfree maintain that it is not a charge they are imposing on customers but that the ASX is, hence the bill comes from the ASX.