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I have just done a vendor finance deal for a new build in Melbourne, the rules are probably very different in Brisbane, but this will give you an idea of what to be aware of:
*Stamp duty being much lower on a new build really assists a wrap deal. You don’t need to charge nearly as much additional on the price to make the deal work.
*I was fortunate that at the time I was setting up my deal, the wrap client received an amazing $32k in FHOG, to use as a deposit….. however, in VIC this couldn’t be paid until the construction was completed.
* You are able to claim back the GST on the construction. Register for GST on a CASH basis. Since you aren’t getting paid for the house until the client refinances the house, it is free money.Here are the figures from my deal (note that I work for a bank so have access to deals that may not be available to others):
Land cost $140k
Build cost $205k
Total cost $345k
Stamp duty $3,700
Legals $1,000
LMI $3,500
10% Deposit $34,500
Interest during construction period $9,000Total cash required = $48,300 (LMI was added to the mortgage)
Cash returned = $26,000 deposit
GST = $18,000
Total cash back $44,000Actual cash down after build completed $4,300
Sale price to client = $365,000 + interest holding costs during construction ($9k)
Deal structured as Standard Variable Interest plus 1.5%. I get 0.8% off the Standard Variable Rate so I get a 2.3% margin on interest paid.
Client also pays for water, rates and insurance.
So from my $4,300 held in the investment, I am currently receiving around $12k per year benefit on the interest plus can claim the depreciation on the new building
Would I do it again? No. For the money I am getting I had to spend too much time and effort which could have been used on other projects.
Also be aware that if you have several of these that you need to be registered under the new national Consumer Credit Code as a Credit Provider. This may be costly.
This house in Seabrook looks like a steal. A whole lot of house within 20km of the CBD, well under budget.
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/VIC/Seabrook/?adid=2008318421
I have seen shows on tv where they have remodelled entire streets with similar themes and colours. They claimed during the show that it significantly increased the value of all the houses in the street (i.e. a renovated house in a renovated street was worth more than just a single renovated house). The theory should also work for a block of units.
The new positive reporting which is due to come out next year will work in your favour. Instead of just being able to see applications, they will have the ability to see how much you have actually borrowed.
It was done in the past few months in NZ. They raised over $1M for a $1m property
Great thanks Richard, helpful as always
I haven’t bought the software, but was at the conference and am an experienced trader. The presentation was all hype and little substance.
Of particular concern was no mention of the risks of trading and an expectation of continual profitability every month, especially in the follow up workshop.
The kind of strategies he was promoting can be obtained for free or for very low cost online.
He proposed that the green and red lines were demand and supply, but in markets like forex where I specialise, there is no demand and supply data recorded as there is no official exchange. They look suspiciously like moving averages.
I have seen people offering a lot more for a lot less money.
Places like The Rocks in Sydney have that potential in the corporate rental market as furnished apartments.
Also check with your lender what their minimum apartment size is that they will lend on. Some one beds won’t be lent on depending on the policy and size. It may also affect your LVR requirements.
Don’t buy in Surry Hills. They are selling the apartment I currently live in, expected sale at auction is 450-550k. It is one bedroom, 30 years old and not spectacular in any way.
Prices have just skyrocketed on land in these estates in the past year. I purchased 540 sqm and will have my house completed this month.
I paid $140k for the land and it would now cost $200k, if you could get hold of it.
If you look at the difference in cost between the purchase price from a builder for a complete house package and the cost to buy land in an estate then build, it appears to be about a $40k differential at the moment. (i.e. builder must have secured land at $160k that would now sell for $200k).
I think that on this basis that there could be some money in purchasing a house and land package, then onselling to someone else prior to completion. During the next few months, all the stock secured at a lower price from builders will quickly gain $40k in value.
Hi everyone.
WAs my first conference.
Really good and useful… Steve, koulizos (how many others actually put their rep on the line and tell you the best places to buy and his undersold product was under $40), carly, parkers, rolton, tax lien guy
most productive time of the conference… Peter daniels talking. I zoned out and used the time to form my business and property plan for the next three years. He seems to really polarise opinions. The people i was with loved him.
The hyped… Pat, but i would take relationship advice from him, it struck a chord with me and my worst presenter was bqhamas rob. If asic was there they would have taken his license. You can’t sell trading systems giving the impression that there is any certainty of returns. To have any credibility to sell a trading system you need at a minimum a 2 year audited trading history to prove that it works in live trading. His options trading strategy was presented as a certain to win solution with promises of amazing returns of over 100 percent and no disscussion of the downside of a leveraged trade wiping out your account if it went the wrong way. Last but not least asic would have a field day with him saying that 7 yr olds should be trading.
I was tossing up between results, rolton or carly. I was leaning towards rolton as in his main presentation he said he paid the costs and they shared the profit with the student. someone finally asked to confirm the profit share method in the workshop which was 80/20 in his favour. For those that were there i was the vocal person who said no i didnt think it was a fair deal. At least carly was up front about things and seemed much fairer to those she purchased from with genuine win win deals.
Many of the examples mark stated were. Clearly taking advantage of uninformed sellers that would have been devastated to find out how much he just screwed them out of when rezoning happened and the farm next door sells for twice the price 3 months later.Many people were ridiculed for predicting the GFC, some of the most notable are Nouriel Roubini, (AKA Dr Doom) and Peter Schiff. If you google Peter Schiff you will see many you tube clips where he is arguing his case strongly against other “so called experts”.
They are really strict on rules for deposit bonds.Was really unimpressed when I tried to apply.
The most competitive forex rates from a trustworthy company will come from Oanda http://www.oanda.com
I signed up under a package several months ago which included tickets to this event. It was also meant to include a separate forum for participants which has never eventuated. Really unimpressed about that.
I am also flying in from Sydney. Hoping to find out lots of great tips on building new developments.
One of the key reasons to hold gold and silver is in the event of economic collapse or near collapse. I’m not familiar with the site you mention, but having someone owe you real gold or silver is definitely not the same thing as actually holding the physical asset during a financial meltdown.
INTERNATIONAL EMPIRE wrote:What about what London has proven for the last 1000 years?Food for thought….
clkhoo wrote:The argument about doubling in house prices based on historical trends may not go on forever.Like everything else it's easier to grow from a low base, e.g. from $50K to $100K, but if its from $500K to $1,000K it is more difficult.
Imagine the next level of doubling from the current median of say $600K…we're talking about $ 1.2m, then what $ 2.4m?
Guess what level of repayments for $2.4m….does one's salary double every 7-10 years as well when one reaches the peak of one's career? Just look at average salaries and you'll know what I mean.
Yes, exceptions do happen, but they're exceptions!
Hi Eric,
You seem to have missed my refutation of the London property market doubling every 7-10 years for hundreds of years earlier in this thread so I will post it again.
mattnz [228 Posts]
April 24, 2009 – 11:11am
Joined: 30/12/2007
Thanks Eric,
At the moment in Australia the house price to household income ratio is very poor. If I earn $80k today and stretch to get into a $500k home now, who is going to buy it off me in 7-10 years for $1 million, and what will they be earning for the equivalent job? In 7-10 years after that, who will buy it off them for $2 million and what will they be earning?We need to be very careful looking at “historical data”. To me the past 30 years isn’t a long enough timeframe to anticipate what may happen in the next 14 years.
At your presentation you said that there was historical data stating that London prices had doubled every 7-10 years for the past 700 years. This is factually incorrect and it is easy to prove it.
Let’s say you could have bought your average family home in London for only 2 pounds 700 years ago. Based on only doubling every 10 years, that is 70 periods of 10 years.
The equation is 2^70 = 1,180,591,620,717,410,000,000 pounds. i.e. 1,180 billion billion pounds. There isn’t this much money on earth today, to buy that one house.
The easy credit availability of the past 30 years is not going to continue after the current crisis. Unless US money printing, trying to get them out of this mess creates very high inflation rates, it is hard to see prices doubling every 7-10 years any more.
I still see real estate as a good and worthwhile investment, but I don’t think the expectations you are setting in your seminars are realistic.Cheers,
MattActually, very few currencies are pegged to USD, such as HKD and CNY. The vast majority are floating.
If the USD collapses:
1. Gold and Silver skyrocket they are not fiat currency
2. Oil and other necessary high demand commodities also go through the roof
3. Other countries with similar policies (printing currency and significantly increasing debt) will also collapse at the same time by association
4. Shares are unlikely to perform well. During a catastrophic financial event, market uncertainty causes shares prices to drop, especially in USA as all foreign investors rush to get their money out of US stocks and into commodities as a store of value.Typically, during a crisis of any kind, currencies such as AUD and NZD perform poorly as money moves to less speculative economies. The most likely safer currencies in such a scenario are JPY and EUR as fund managers pile their money back into home currencies for safe keeping.
It is very possible that USD could collapse due to hyperinflation, according to some very respected analysts. I strongly suggest going to http://www.chrismartenson.com for his Crash Course which is excellent and interesting viewing.
Chris Martenson produced this information before the Global Financial Crisis. In the crash course he outlines some fascinating facts on fiat money, the US system for money creation and highlights the key issue of scarce commodities that will start running out soon, particularly focusing on peak oil.
My personal pick of the best performing commodity of the next 30 years however is silver. At the current rate of consumption,all known silver deposits will have been extracted in 30 years time. Silver could easily become worth as much as gold. It has special properties which are required in a number of industries, notably electronic components. There is no adequate substitute and given the tiny quantities in a large range of products, it is very difficult to extract to recycle.
If you want to bet on a USD collapse, buy physical silver in significant quantities and hold for the long term. Holding silver on paper won’t mean anything in a financial collapse.
I should also add that a company like that should be advising you on the best way to maximise your profit taking into account the following:
1. Build cost
2. End sales value
3. Demand for different construction types in the area
4. Maximising the number of units allowed on the site
5. Profiling who the target purchaser would be. (i.e. retiree, young family, yuppie etc.) This will affect what you would build on the site based on the demographics of the area.