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The AV Jennings release is particularly interesting. I often see the media accusing developers of land banking. It is the first time I have seen them defining this as a strategy. There is definitely something wrong with the model when a business strategy is based on having 5 YEARS of inventory!!!
In any other business in any industry, having a stockpile of 5 years of inventory would be a surefire way to go broke due to its cashflow implications. Certainly not a just-in-time inventory system and not a sustainable business model.
It is no wonder that land prices are very high, all the key players buy up all the available land in the areas which are being rezoned and limit the amount for sale. It is similar to how oil cartels worked in the 1970’s to force oil prices up by 300%+.
It can still be done, just not in Australia, try USA.
Just looking at Genworth’s financial position and exposure.
In 2008 their share price dropped from ~$35 to $1.12 due to their exposure to the US housing market. The scary thing is their exposure to the Australian market is far larger and any significant drop here would almost certainly cause insolvency.
Of their 3.8 million LMI policies internationally, 1.4 million are in Australia compared with 1 million in USA. Given the much higher house prices in Australia, the dollar value exposure would have to be at least twice that of USA.
The whole purpose of LMI is to protect the banks. They are covered for the first 20% of any losses by the insurer. In NABs case this is Genworth Financial. It isn’t a bank decision, but the LMI provider. They need to keep receiving premiums to stay afloat and cover their costs, so they keep offering insurance.
It raises an interesting point though. The mortgage insurers are only set up to cover a few defaults, not for a market collapse. While the banks assume they are covered in such an event, I would be surprised if the LMI providers survived a significant drop in house prices. If the LMI providers collapse, the banks which have relied on insurance to bail them out of trouble in their risk modelling, will also face serious unforeseen issues.
Here is an article in which the chief economist at BNZ, fully owned by NAB advise that they recognised the NZ market was 30% overvalued in 2008 when the ratio of house price to wages were at a multiple of 6 in NZ.
In Australia they are much higher now, Sydney has a multiple of 9 and Melbourne 8. You have to wonder what NAB's economists are saying behind closed doors about how overvalued the Australian market is. If NZ was 30% overvalued at 6 times, Australia must be 30-50% overvalued by the same measure at around 8 times wages.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10705683
"The BNZ reckoned in early 2008 that house prices, then averaging about six times average disposable incomes, were overvalued by about 30 per cent. By now about half that overvaluation has been relieved, Ebert said, through declines in house prices and a "reasonable" increase in disposable incomes."
How many square metres are you willing to accept for that price?
My research to date has put Texas cities at the top of the list, San Antonio and Houston. Both large cities with inexpensive real estate. They didn’t go through the boom bust cycle anywhere near as much in Texas and has always been good value. For the size of the cities, their median prices are fantastic.
The typical complaint is actually that bank valuers undervalue properties, so that you need to put more of your own money in as deposit. I was advised by the builder on one of my houses not to go with one lender as their valuer in the area always undervalues, by like $50k on a $350k purchase.
On my last house that I purchased however, the bank didn't do any valuation, they just approved the loan.
I asked the same question in another forum, this was the response I received
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Just wondering if any locals can advise why Gladstone seems to be the only town in the region that didn’t flood. Does Gladstone ever flood?Gladstone does flood and the closest it came with this past rain was the area of Boyne Island.
Lake Awonga’s spillway feeds into the Boyne River which goes out to sea via Boyne Island.
The Calliope river, and to a lesser extent Auckland creek, don’t have a great deal of housing around them.
Boyne Island would generally only flood through a combination of a big high tide and the feeding of the Boyne river from the Lake Awonga spillway.
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Westpac’s economics team is expecting interest rates to increase. All RBA cares about is inflation targeting and the floods will cause produce prices to increase significantly, creating inflationary pressures.
I am about to increase the rent on my place from $360 to $420 per week. Fortunately I have a corporate tenant and it is fully furnished with everything they could need. There are very few fully furnished properties in Gladstone and strong demand.
If rents are going to eventually go sky high, then you need to keep up with the market. No point doing small increases once in a while, you will get left behind. If you want to sell at the peak of the boom, rental return will be a key driver of the value of the property.
I have noticed that while alot of stock just came onto the rental market, they are ridiculous rentals like $600 per week for a 2 bed unit. They are no competition for the existing stock.
Try finding him or his gf on facebook, I have found it is the easiest way to track people down. At least the bill is in his name, not yours.
Surprising to hear that the news coverage is actually less dramatic than the reality, its normally the other way around.
Insurance in areas which have just flooded is likely to be difficult to get, if not impossible. After all, which insurance company would knowingly issue a new insurance policy on a property which is likely to have 10s of 1000s of damage again in the next decade.
If you are looking at getting the upside of the mining boom, with minimal risk and has survived the flooding very well, Gladstone is definitely worth a look. I already have an IP there.
And compare it with this list of the cheapest cities to buy in.
http://www.statjump.com/lists/house-value-dp4c112tc.html
If you can find cities that have low vacancy rates and low prices, it could be a winner.
It seems that St George are now viewing rent payments as "savings" towards LVR calculations. It may be worth discussing with them, as you may find that the improved LVR means no LMI.
http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2010/12/23/loan-standards-drop-to-keep-the-bubble-afloat/
kong71286 wrote:A big thanks to all those that have contributed to this thread and shared their experiences so that we can all learn from anotherBeing in my early 20s and having only commenced work this year after graduating from university, I have limited experiences in investing, and haven't made many mistakes yet
I'd say my biggest mistake so far is what you guys would refer to as 'analysis paralysis' and letting family/friends, who care about me and think they know what's best to influence me
After many months of watching the price of gold/silver rise, and analyzing the financial statements and portfolio of mining companies, I finally took action last month by purchasing shares in mining companies I have confidence in. The fundamentals and technical for Gold/Silver were all there, but what finally triggered me to take action was the announcement of 'Quantitative Ease 2', which is basically a fancy name for 'printing/digitizing currency'
I strongly believe that Silver is biggest investment of this decade. Not only has it been a monetary metal for thousands of years, but it is also an industrial metal used in all sorts of applications (http://www.silverinstitute.org/silver_uses.php). I am so confident about Silver that I have invested all of my funds into Silver Bullion and Silver Equities, and with my portfolio increasing by 30% in the past month I am glad about my decision, and am excited to be able to participate in this great bull market
Good timing Kong, its those game changing events that you should be watching out for.
Also note that according to resource depletion charts I have seen, silver will be the first material to run out based on current consumption rates. Amazingly, known silver deposits will only last another 30 years!! It will run out before oil.
If it is in a new estate, there are probably additional covenants that the initial estate developers imposed that would prevent further subdivision. Have a look at your purchase contract.
Sorry I should have added, Steve McKnight the owner of this site also does developments these days.
Both Massland and Carly Crutchfield are always on the lookout for deals.They tend to heavily favour their own interests and profit, but at least you should walk away with a small profit rather than a loss.