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January 27, 2008 - 6:07 am
Less valleys the better, also less problems you will have later on.keep gutters to the outside of building none of this butterfly roof crapo or box gutters, 22 degree roof pitch (easiere to walk on the better.Mainly the less valleys the better ,as ridges are easier to cut in.Big flat roofs are the best with no angle cuts.
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January 17, 2008 - 5:40 am

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masterrel, crashy & oneplumber
I wouldn't have expected any other reply from the likes of you. Its like waiving a red flag, any opinions, be they positive or negative and guys like you will jump head first to defend your so-called reputations whether your're right or wrong, very predictable.
I work in the construction industry so my hours are anything but 9-5. You're not the only ones who claim to do irregular hours. I also owned a business for about 10 years and know the ins and outs of small business. In this free market, you guys can try and charge anything you want, whether to get get it is another matter.
I think apprentices are actually fortunate to get paid anything at all. When I was studying and workng to gain the required work experience to graduate, I was paid the grand total of ZERO dollars and was forced to live with my parents until I graduated. So welcome to the real word where everything is not laid out for you on a silver platter.
Why are you complaining anyway, that's the career path you have chosen, or maybe you had no choice because of your lack of sufficient brains cells to do anything else. Still it looks like your all making a good living.
And I don't hear anyone still claiming to be a battler?
I don't see where in my post I was defending my reputation ,but guilty of disputing being told what I should charge.And you hit the nail on the head its a free market so why whine about what other people are charging??? I agree their are heaps of high charging shonk tradies out there tough $hit.
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I think apprentices are actually fortunate to get paid anything at all
Hmmm yes brilliant statementwhy not create even more of a skills shortage so you can pay even more.
Bit rich talking down tradies I.Qs when your in construction and also in an apprenticeship.If you were in business then you should already know costs , slowdowns ,economic cycles etc all have to be factored in(maybe you ran your business into the ground??).Otherwise if its so easy and high paying go learn how to do it yourself.
Don't feed me that silver platter tripe I have the utmost respect for tradies that start their own business(actually anyone that starts their own business) its no walk in the park.
You can take this as being defensive or whatever flamebait you want to spit out.Watching the others try to explain things a million times to 9-5 mind-setters is getting old.As for being a battler yes a high % of tradies would be.The only thing I'm complaining about is clueless people like you whining.If you had a bad job take it up with dept of fair trading.At the least ,the tradie might not be able to renew his license and your job should be rectified by D.O.F.T at the tradies expense.You should do your homework well in advance anyway.
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January 16, 2008 - 6:03 am
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What's this nonsense about being charged $120 for a 2am callout – I was charged $230 for a Saturday night callout at 7pm. The guy lived 15 minutes away, he was actually in the area doing another job and spent a grand total of 15 mins at my place fixing an electrical problem. I knew I would have to pay around this amount, so it wasn't a surprise to me.
But lets put this in perspective, he probably did say half a dozen jobs that evening x $230 per job = $1,380 for a night's work. Yes, I know he has to pay for his overheads, say 30% (which are tax deductible anyway, he'll probably get back 40%), which leaves him about $1,000 with a large portion tax and GST free for cash jobs. That's pretty good for 6 hours work.
I don't want to hear anymore from these tradies whinging about how they are battlers, beacuse they're not. They're C.U.B.s (cashed up bogans).
By the way, I have no problem with someone, who ever it is, making good legitimate money, I applaud it and encorage it. But please, spare me the struggling working class battler bullshit, beacause it'ssimply not true.
Yes you must know exactly what its like to run a trade business Tell every tradies wife and kids how good they have got it.Yes you can become so rich that no one wants to take on an apprenticeship and work for the massive C.U.B wages you can earn.I'm sick of 9-5 sheeple telling me how much I should be charging when they have no concept of what it is to run a business.When construction slows down prices come down.Get your bargins then for major projects.
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October 10, 2007 - 8:06 am
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And why is that? Can you add anything other than calling me a tosser lol I think its very clear that the majority of tradies that have replied seem to have some sort of a complex
Actually most have explained why prices differ or are more expensive, or have agreed that there are shonks out there. I wasn’t calling you a tosser (just the statement you made) but you seem to be flame baiting the tradies. There’s a huge amount of people in trades who are terrible at their job. It’s your job to sift through them. Explain what you want and if the stuff it up, don’t pay. If you’re stupid enough to pay for a shoddy job or you don’t do your homework, or are too lazy to follow up, tough luck for you. I don’t go to the shop and buy broken goods and then be pissed off about it.Or I soon take it back if it doesn't work or is not right.Yet you are willing to pay $100 upwards and simply deal with it by flaming.It sounds like bruised ego to me.
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October 9, 2007 - 9:09 am
blogs wrote:
There certainly does seem to be a re occuring theme of the tradies being very 'sensitive' and overly defenssive. On one side there is an argument about sub standard work being provided and people being ripped off, and yet the tradies who all reply seem to ignore this totally and reply in defense of their self worth and right to make a living and that they are not second class citizens etc-seems to be some deep seated issues there fellas……therapy anyone??
Bit of a tosser thing to say.
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September 17, 2007 - 2:31 am
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I think tradies should be required to quote an hourly rate and detail a schedule of activities in half hourly increments as part of the quoting process. When conducting the work they should maintain a timesheet detailing their actual times and associated activities in half-hour increments to be compared against the quotation. If something unforeseen eventuates, then it’s a matter of negotiating with the customer for a change request.
This is how professional services in many white-collar industries operate, and at least this way you can compare apple with apples based upon an hourly rate and a schedule of works.
When I went through tafe for an apprentice course I was told the base price is usually materials plus 30% then add for any inconveniences its not as cut and dry as that as every job is different .Still , there is no excuse for shoddy work.But it should be reported or they will just keep doing the same thing.
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September 17, 2007 - 12:15 am
After my parents went bankrupt through a business they were running. And having to pay about $5000 month on a caveat loan we were desperate. After a bunch of mortgage brokers that wouldn’t know their head from their ass told us they could, then couldn’t help us I was at wits end. In the end we met a guy from sample and partners, yeah the fee was not the best but at the time I was glad to get the whole episode out of the way.These were the only guys that were willing to help at the time after seeing countless brokers and banks.
Theres a heap of better loans out there but given our situation this was the only one we could get.
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September 17, 2007 - 12:01 am
blogs wrote:
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Oh BTW for everyone who remembers me being glad to finaly find what I thought was finally a good tradie..I should have known better-he was a painter BTW, well after 5..yes thats right 5 bloody inspections where I had to have him come back for TOTALLY missing areas I gave up and got the paint brush out and finished it myself. Not to mention having to get the turps out myself to clean off all the over paint he got on my tiles, shower, kitchen, windows and even floors!!! But I shouldnt complain, after all I was paying him only $300 csh a day and he was doing me a favour by letting me pay him huh, and I did give him some beers at the start trying to be mister nice guy, what a joke-lets call it 6 times bitten, now foerever shy!!!!!
Did you complain to the dept of fair trading??
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September 11, 2007 - 11:42 pm
L.A Aussie wrote:
Sometimes the customer is nice at the start, but is a pain after the tradie starts work, and a lot of times the tradie will quote a high price if:
a) he is really busy and doesn't want the job, but will do it for a premium price
b) he thinks the customer is a bunny and he can get away with an over-quote
c) all of the above.
I'm not talking about the price they charge; it's up to the customer to accept it or reject it. I do realise this thread is more on the price issue, but my post was about the thread a few weeks ago.
I'm talking about the reaction by the tradie to the difficult customer, whereby they take on the attitude; "this guy's a pain, so I'm not gunna do a decent job; that'll show him".
This attitude is wrong, but according to many who have commented on this issue, it seems to be all too common. Cowboy tradies with unprofessional work practices and ethics.
You have no control over the customer's behavior, and it has no bearing on how well you do your job (at least; it shouldn't). The tradie should be able to do his job professionally and to a high standard, no matter how much of a pr**ck the customer is.
Yes agree, the job should be done to a high standard regardless.Most of the time this is the case with private businesses as the tradie will worry about his name being affected.Big Companies that hire subcontractors that they pay next to nothing are a different case.They are more likely to rush the job and not care
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September 11, 2007 - 5:09 am
Forgot to add http://www.bangitup.com.au/ . This site has trades that are recommended by people across Australia.
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September 11, 2007 - 5:05 am
L.A Aussie wrote:
Are we back on the customer's attitude AGAIN? I thought we had a gutful of that a few weeks ago with you and crashy.
Customer attitude is an external factor and should not have an influence on your professionalism in your job.
I worked in retail for 30 years, and if I had let the customers' crappy attitudes dictate how well I worked, I would have had a very unsuccessful business.
No it dicates how much tradies will charge you.If it looks like you are going to be a pain in the butt ,then the price will be high.
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September 7, 2007 - 5:31 am
Tradies have to cover insurance such as workers comp, public liability and also petrol, bits of material, travel time, licenses, GST, taxes and a host of other things. You’re an idiot if you think we should produce under qualified tradesmen. The have been trying to clear out the cowboys for years as they do more damage then good.Every job is different and a number of things can affect the price.
Did you get other quotes or just the one (try the web for locals near the IP)?
If it’s so easy and they make so much money why not become one?
Sounds like you want it done for nothing. There’s cheap tradies around, do your homework instead of having a rant.
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August 20, 2007 - 2:27 am
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MasterREL wrote:
You can protect shares with options or make extra income through writing options.Theres a lot of different strats.

O.K, now we're getting somewhere; how about some detail on a few of them.
I get plenty of detail about what a fool I am for mentioning yes, there is risk when someone asks, but it seems no-one want s to back up the pot-shot with some constructive advice about how to avoid that risk.
Simple put option over your shares (1 put option is 1000 shares), or cfd short over your shares and warrants. Put option is more or less a safety net you can lock in profits at certain strike prices (e.g. 15.00 ,15.50, 16.00) You pay a premium which varies according to how much you want to insure it for and for how long. Volatility will also play a part in the price of the premium. CFDS are just click and your away, pricey brokerage pricey to hold long. You can also write put, call options over your shares for income. But if exercised must either buy or sell your shares at the set strike price the options were sold at. The details are detailed and are probably easier to just find on the net with a goggle search.
This is a very simple explanation and there is a host of factors to take into consideration. Should really know your Greeks before diving in.
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August 14, 2007 - 6:12 am
You can protect shares with options or make extra income through writing options.Theres a lot of different strats.
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January 20, 2006 - 11:06 am
http://www.responsetoasicallegations.com.au/jenman.htm
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September 5, 2005 - 7:00 am
Terry bec in keira street wollongong.I think he looks after some of wollongongs bigger property players.Always check first though.
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March 1, 2005 - 1:00 pm
Actually he made all his money before he got into the seminar business. I thought the same thing till I saw a program on the abc. I think he is one of the few who actually did not gain all their properties and shares through running seminars. He also has a (among his other businesses)international business that is one of the fastest growing in the world.
He has better creds then the other spruikers.And seems to know his stuff.He made his money long before he started teaching.And at $10000 a pop I bet he wish he thought of it sooner.
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March 1, 2005 - 4:31 am
His course is about 10000 for 5 days. But after researching one of his testimonies (that is in a similar trade to me) I have to wonder if this could be a good kick in the butt to further my business.If the content is all rah rah and back slapping, Id give it a miss though
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February 15, 2005 - 10:06 am
If you do not nominate a principle contractor while you have work carried out on your home the onus then falls on you.Im sure I read this on a workcover site.I also heard union members will be able too head hunt for convictions and any fines paid will go back to them.
Its not carved in stone yet though.
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February 8, 2005 - 8:10 am
What happens when interest rates change, tenants leave or general real life stuff happens. Does anyone remember the late 80’s early 90’s.Are you trying to say find bargains in a heated market or buy anything at a high price??. Hey Spanky Ill sell you my house at a peak price.And then buy something else when a bit more air goes out of the bubble.Why pay top dollar?? So what if you are young.If you buy the wrong property it may end up costing you more.And would have been better off leaving your money in the bank.Just because you have years to waste does not mean you should be careless with them.Im not saying dont buy property but at least think about the investment not cheerlead property at any stake