i posted something last year to thank investor finance for getting a loan through for us when we hadn't had our 2 yrs ABN (they got us the finance to secure a development site) but then later on stuffed it up completely when we applied for construction finance. They put us in such a pickle and to make things worse their solution for us was to obtain funds through a private lender until we can get it through another way. They claim to be investors themselves but when we discovered what the stuff up was with our construction finance, it was something that they clearly should've been aware of if they were so-called experts.
For straight forward buy and holds then they're probably ok but the mob we dealed with were definitely not good.
We're in Adelaide so obviously people differ from office to office
Its really a personal decision and one you'll get lots of different views on depending on what strategy people prefer….some buy and hold and never ever sell because they're into capital growth, whereas others are in favour of turning a quick profit and doing lots of these over a period of time to make their money. You need to do some comparable calculations.
If your long term goal is to retire through property as the investing vehicle, then possibly in the scenario of subdividing, building and holding them as long time rentals may be a good option because you've presumably paid nothing for the land so your debt would only be on the building. Look at the rental market in that area and see what the returns are like which would help you in making a decision.
Need to take into consideration the finance side of things as well….whether you'd be able to finance whatever strategy you decide.
We've just gone through the not-so-nice task of sacking our property manager. We used Professionals but after less than 6mths of tenancy, we're up for another lot of letting/advertising fees…..of which last time costed us about $1000 before we'd even gotten a cent from the rental! I was not about to pay another 1 weeks lettting fee less than 6mths later. Anyway, cut long story short, after doing alot of research and number crunching last week, i've found that it was better for us to go with an independent company rather than a 'franchise' as we found the 'franchises' have alot more fees (letting fee, lease renewel fee, tribunal fees etc) involved.
Although its costing us money to pay a property manager to look after our properties, we personally wouldn't have it any other way because we're in the property game to buy back our time so the last thing we want is to be outlaying time managing them! but of course this is a personal choice.
Xenia is a well respected property manager in Adelaide…… i'd give Xenia a call and have a chat with her ([email protected])…don't have her mobile handy with me.
Last i heard John Donjerkovic has been arrested so no chance of you getting in contact with him!
As for the manual, the lady who wrote the manual with John i believe has rights to the manual and was still selling it ………..not sure about now but if you email me i can pass on her contact details for you to follow up if you like.
residential lend based on end val wasn't a prob with any of the banks….i think its a fairly standard for lend on end val to my understanding? They'll lend on new land value + 100% of hard costs.
we're registered for gst and we claim the gst every quarter through our BAS to help with cashflow….once we sell the homes we obviously need to repay this back to the ATO unfortunately
If you're building 18homes, this would definitley be the reason why you are having to go through the business lending path. Majority of banks do 3 or 4 max on residential before they start pushing you through commercial lending.
We bought 1 in Gilles Plains last year and are currently building 2 homes as well. For that particular one we went through Westpac for the finance and they were fantastic compared to the other banks we've dealt with. They lent us 80% of the new improved land value (ie. the value of the 2 allotments as if they had already been subdivided) + 100% of the building costs which is pretty much the norm with most banks except Westpac were better than the other banks because they lent us the money based on just council approval and didn't require deposited plans etc which alot of the other banks do want!
We got a lowdoc through westpac but only downside is you can only borrow in your personal name…i.e. no trusts/companies etc.
not sure that i've answered your question directly but hope this helps in some way??
Cheers,
Kim
p.s. Our blocks are approx. 330m2 each and the bank valued them each at $115K. Your estimated end valuation of $320K may be a little high given that there's only 1 or 2 homes in the area that have sold around that price and they were above average sized homes. The majority of them are high $200K's (if your block is situated in the PAE Council but if its TTG Council then there are no comparables whatsoever) so i'd work on worst case scenario rather than the $320K just in case….only a suggestion
Don't quote me on this, this is only my understanding but you can use a standard real estate sales contract (if you're going through a real estate agent) however, cooling off won't initiate until the form 1s are complete or in other words, unless you have your title reference details to complete form 1s, the buyer is bound to anything……..Alternatively, if the buyer is happy to waiver their cooling off rights, you can sign the contract as such.
If you're selling privately, you can get your conveyancer to write up a private sales contract.
we use intermezzo which is a neutral cream/beige colour….again goes with everything because it is neutral. Just go down to your local Solver paints and ask for a sample…if you think its too creamy than you can go half tint which is also very nice.
chalk USA is also similar and neutral but we use intermezzo in all our homes and have been happy with it.
We've had some serious difficulties with getting finance for more than 3 dwellings on residential terms so you're right about that….thanks for the post because it sounds like you've done extremely well on getting the rates down to 7.55% or 7.49% for first 12mths!
All i can say is 2 words when i hear that name and they are……"Bad News!"
I don't think i can give you 1 name of a JV who's been completely satisfied after having done business with him in actual fact, i can think of at least half a dozen who are chasing him for lots of owed money!
The guy has alot of knowledge and has the ability to convince you of almost anything but at the end of the day, you need to do your own due diligence on the guy and make your own decisions but from our personal experience, its unfortunately been a complete nightmare and we're considered as one of the lucky ones!
Thanks for sharing your recent success! I've heard from a few people NAB is an option as well but what we've found is it must really depend on which branch or lending manager you see because they all give different answers…..Go to 3 different branches of the 1 bank and we'll get 3 different answers to the same questions! Its soooooooooooo frustrating.
I think we'll investigate NAB further as a few people seem to think they will do what we want……….I'll check the LoDoc side of things as well Richard – not that i don't trust you but i just wanna see what they tell me.
Nah nothing if they don't sell…..we pay about 2% + gst here in Adelaide so i thought 4% was a bit rough! I'll have to get another agent to come through i think!
We've tried that. We even got a property manager to write a letter saying they intend on managing the leases once we sell. The bank still didn't believe because they saw on our credit report that we currently have several other 'big' loans which are obviously developments..
we're still hunting….can't believe its becoming this difficult?!
i think after reading the replies i’ve made up my mind…..i never really wanted to go down the auction path but the agent was very convincing with his theories!
Marc is right (well for SA anyway), in SA the bid is unconditional when buying at auction with no cooling off…obvsiouly isn’t the same in every other state. I think i agree with you though Marc, we have done our own valuation based on very comparable sales in the area so we know what the house is worth and the agent confirmed that today with his price guide. We’ll list a price range and sell it that way.
we’re from adelaide but we always book our accomodation through these websites at great prices.
anything within the CBD would be convenient (presuming the venue is within CBD) as there is a free city bus which circulates the CBD
Hope this helps!
Kim
ps. i haven’t stayed here myself but i did look into it about a year ago when i was looking for a hotel room for my hens night…..pacific international apartments on frome street in the city had 3 bd apartments for $180/night. This was the rate for the saturday night i requested a year ago so not sure what it is now but worth checking out if you’re looking at sharing.
We have an Adelaide Real Estate Investors Group that meets 2nd Tuesday of every month…i reckon this would be a great place for you to start…lots of networking opportunities (free to attend!). Next meeting is Feb 13th.
What Steve said about CGT is my understanding also.
We’re in the business of buying and selling also and my understanding is we don’t pay CGT because buying and selling property is our business. We pay income tax on the profits we make like any other business.
It wouldn’t make sense that if Joe Blogs who runs a fish and chip shop only pays income tax on his profits but because we decide to run a business which involves property, that we should have to pay income tax on our profits as well as CGT.