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Hi Chris- you can only claim 1 PPOR at any one time. So if you move into a new PPOR, your old PPOR is no longer covered by the CGT exemption. Hoever you don't have to decide which one to call you PPOR until you sell so you can decide which one to call your PPOR when it comes time to sell to get the best tax outcome.
If you could claim more than one PPOR people with multiple properties would just say they have moved from house to house and never pay CGT which is ridiculous.
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LukeThe most common and usually most suitable structure is to hold the properties in a discretionary trust witha corporate trustee. You can have the beneficiries named as any future spouse and future children, as well as your mother.
You could also have your cousins, uncle and aunt named as secondary beneficiaries but I would be reluctant to do this at this stage. If you do become super successful and want to share your wealth with these family members then you could name them in future trusts but it is your decision really what you want to do with your money.
There are also clauses that exclude any future ex-spouses of your children, and maybe even ex-spouses of yourself to give added asset protection but whether or not these clauses stand up up in a court if there is a dsipute is another question.
In any event, it is best to see a well qualified and more importantly experienced lawyer and accountant to set up the trust or any entity you use. You could DIY for cheaper but this may end up costing you a bomb if it is not done propertly.
It is probably also an idea to talk to a mortagage broker to make sure you can borrow money to buy the properties using the proposed structure.
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LukeYes, I have subscribed too. It doesnt seem like a bad program but will see how it goes and whether it runs out of interesting things to say. Michael Yardney has lots of audio programs too- if you go to his website http://www.propetryupdate.com.au you can usually sign up for some free programs and he emails you new ones every few months.
I like listening to these things on the way to work- it gives me soemthing to think about as I chug over the Narrows Bridge in Perth on the bus.
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LukeYep I would call your solicitor quick smart. Just because you do not produce a Section 32 doesnt mean that the contract is void- if you haven't even attempted to get one then that would give you no grounds to try to cancel the sale. Also from the purchasors perspective the settlement date on the contract is correct- it was written in the contract and you signed it so it is done and dusted.
Probably not a good idea to sign your property away without being 100% sure of everything but I suppose there is no point harping on a lesson learned.
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LukeThat is extremely cheap. If you can build for that price then you are doing very very well. does that include all services connections, bathrooms, and building from scatch? And are you building yourself or using a builder?
I would expect to pay about $1500 – $1650 / m2 if you are using a registered builder. 60m2 is not a very economical size to build.
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LukeJosef wrote:Hey Mate, There is absolutely no benefit in having an offset account if its your PPOR. You should be able to have a redraw facility on your home loan which is pretty much the same thing. The only benefit of an offset account is for investment properties as this offsets the interest you pay on your home loan and still gives you a tax break from your property if its negatively geared. Not blowing my own trumpet but I deal with these accounts and open them up for clients on a daily basis. Having said that having an offset account on your PPOR won't hurt you but there is no real benefit.O my, I am glad that you haven't given me advice then!
Yes I agree with AaronC- you never know what you are going to do in the future.
At least by putting all of your money if an offset you have options- you can move money from an offset account into your loan to usea as redraw without any tax consequences but you cant simply move money from redraw into an offset account.
This comes up so often on this forum- accountants and mortgage brokers must be tearing their hair out.
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LukePutting the money in the offset account would give you more flexibility. You should put the money into an offset account because if you have a situation where you need access to the money (e.g. new car, medical emergency) then you can withdraw the money without any tax implaications. Whereas if you pay it into your loan, the redraw is counted as new borrowings and so you may have issues down the track if your PPOR becomes an investment.
Of course when it comes time to purchase the new IP you can just withdraw the funds from the offset, pay it into your PPOR loan and then set up a loan split and redraw the funds to maximise tax deductions.
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LukeAaron_C wrote:As a general rule, new properties are not good 'investments' because you are paying retail price for a product. Do you see people who shop at Myer making money by on-selling the products they bought? Of course not. Developers make money by buying land cheap, building for cheaper than what you can build for, and charging you retail price for both land and building. Not that that's a bad thing – but as long as you aware of it.Well put Aaron- this is the reason why I will never buy a brand new house as an investment. Someone has already extracted as much profit as possible by buying the land, building the house and then selling it at a premium to you. I dont think there is much profit to be had after you by a new house or townhouse.
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LukeDid you do any research on what you would probably be able top build before you purchased the property?
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LukeLook on the bright side- you have managed to pay off $70k in 18 months, and only owe $100k on an investment property. There are plenty of people in worse positions than yourself!
I am sure a good mortgage broker can help you out with your future loans and structures to make sure you are being as tax effective as possible (of course tax is not the reason for investing, but you may as well structure yourself to be as tax effective as possible).
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Lukeluke86 wrote:luke86 wrote:Sorry, the last sentence of that paragraph should have said:
The interest on the original $100k is tax deductable as it is for an investment property but because this is counted as new borrowings, the interest is NOT tax deductable as the purpose of you reborrowing the $200k was not for investment purposes.Bad day. It should have said:
The interest on the original $100k is tax deductable as it is for an investment property but because this is counted as new borrowings, the interest on the $200k that you redrew is NOT tax deductable as the purpose of you reborrowing the $200k was not for investment purposes.
Note to self- proof read next time.
luke86 wrote:E.g. 1) You owe $100k on your investment loan with another $200k sitting available as redraw. You withdraw $200k to buy a house to live in (not an investment) bringing your loan balance back up to $300k. The interest on the original $100k is tax deductable as it is for an investment property but because this is counted as new borrowings, the interest is tax deductable as the purpose of you reborrowing the $200k was not for investment purposes.
Sorry, the last sentence of that paragraph should have said:
The interest on the original $100k is tax deductable as it is for an investment property but because this is counted as new borrowings, the interest is NOT tax deductable as the purpose of you reborrowing the $200k was not for investment purposes.Putting money in an offset account will save you money when the time comes when you need a sum of cash for personal expenses. If you pay the money into your investment property loan, you would need to redraw the money from the loan to pay for your new car or new house to live in. Because it is redrawn, this counts as new borrowings. As the money is for private use the interest will not be tax deductable.
E.g. 1) You owe $100k on your investment loan with another $200k sitting available as redraw. You withdraw $200k to buy a house to live in (not an investment) bringing your loan balance back up to $300k. The interest on the original $100k is tax deductable as it is for an investment property but because this is counted as new borrowings, the interest is tax deductable as the purpose of you reborrowing the $200k was not for investment purposes.
E.g. 2) You owe $300k on your investment loan and have $200k in your offset account (same as example 1 but you have paid the extra money into an offset account instead of into the loan). You take $200k out of the offset account to buy your new house to live in. The interest on the entire $300k loan balance remains tax deductable as you have not reborrowed the money for personal use, and the reason why you have this $300k loan is to buy your investment property. This saves you $4200 per year compared to example 1 above, assuming marginal tax rate of 30% and a interest rate of 7%. This really adds up in the long term!!!!
Best to talk to a finance broker like Richard to make sure your structure is correct and to ensure your structrue is correct for all future purchases.
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LukeStop paying money off your mortgage and put it in an offset account instead would be a good start.
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LukeAlso interested in this queston. Although I am not going to do it in Whitehorse Coucil, I have heard stories of people squeezing more units onto a block of land than they should be able to accoriding to council rules by having a draftman who knows the system and produces clever designs.
Or are these stories stretching the truth and coucils generally have sets of rules that can not be bent or broken no matter what?
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LukeI have heard via the forums that NRAS properties are hard to finance and so will be hard to sell- not good for investment property.
Also they are only for tenants, not for people to buy as a PPOR- also not a good thing for investment property if you are searching for capital gains (as people who are buying a PPOR will pay a bit more to secure a property they love).
After considering these things, I would not buy a NRAS property. Although some people have and are currently happy with the decision so I suppose it depends what you are looking for.
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LukeHi Cameron,
I am having a stab in the dark here and do not mean to be rude- the reason why your property has not sold is because you think it is worth more than it is (because it is yours and you have an emotional attachment to it) and not many people will pay more than a fair market price for a property. Maybe it is because of a bad advertisement or presentation but I doubt it.
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LukeHi Danev- If he is building a largish block of units then it might be best to sell and take the profit. You have some leverage in the negotiations as your block of land is worth a lot to a developer if they already own the adjacent properties. If the proposed building is a large multistory development then it will decrease the value of your unit, as not many people want t live in the shadow of one of those.
If the units are relatively low density (ie. detached one or two story townhouses or units) then it probably won't reduce the value of your property that much so you could hold on.
One thing you could consider is whether you could put the proceeds from the sale to better use and make larger profits than if you held on and waited for capital gains and rented the property.
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LukeWhy will you be without electricity? Just get the electricity account transferred to your name for the 4 weeks or so it takes to do the reno and then have the new tenants transfer it into their name when they move in.
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Luke