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    Qlds007 wrote:
    Then i would get the current PPOR revalued cancel the advance repayments and set up a totally separate interest only loan as deposit for the new IP.

    Richard ,

    Can you please explain this how will it work if i were to make a payment of $20,000 in my existing prop and then redraw for IP. Could you please explain this with some example numbers.

    Thanks,

    Losty

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    Jamie M wrote:
    Rory Breaker wrote:
    Hi Losty,
    An option is to pay down the PPOR as soon as possible then redraw with a LOC to be used as a deposit for an IP.  It will take time however.  
     

    Another way to acheive the same outcome would be to convert this loan to interest only with an offset attached – place any extra repayments into your offset account. You can than withdraw this money at any time at no cost and no hassle.

    Thanks Guys for your replies.

    Jamie,

    Jut to make sure i got this correct – What you are suggesting me is to change my current property loan to a interest only and if i were to have, say, $30,000 in saving in next 4 months, i put it in the offset account linked to my existing loan.

    If this is what you are suggesting, how will this help me getting a deposit for the investment property?

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    Jamie,

    Thanks for your quick reply.

    That means $41,000 – $15000 = $26,000

    That will increase the LMI by a certain amount.

    So, what it comes down to then is we have to have $26,000 in cash if we want to buy an investment property worth $300,000.

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    Only one reply ….i expected this will become a single post which would list every single possible thing that need to go in the categories.

    Hope to hear from more of property experts here :)

    thanks in advance

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    Any other comments/Suggestion please!

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    The savings are meant to be used for deposit on an IP we intend to buy. But reading through responses here, everyone is suggesting it to use for debt reduction.

    Not sure where the hard earned money is best to use for.

    Needs to evaluate it carefully !

    DWolfe wrote:
    Nup, not the bank. I was wondering if this was money that was there for some reason, like to pay tax, or for whatever reason hence the reason you haven't used this money to either pay down the cars, or as deposit for another property. It is good that it is in the offset it is at least doing something, but if you could be doing something better with the money, then you need to.

    Well 700k is great. So 700k / 25 years (minimum life span after retiring) = 28k a year. Some people may be happy with this, but after earning 200k a year then it may not quite cut it.

    Just saying, is all!

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    Thanks DWolfe for your kind encouraging words. BTW when you say $30k for taxman, what do you mean? Our bank do not charge any tax on this, AS FAR AS I AM AWARE. Might have to look into it?

    DWolfe wrote:
    Hi,

    Have to say I feel the same about my super 'bonus'. That $16k (yes that's right!) is going to get me what when I hit 65?

    I don't see having $45k owing on personal debt as the worst thing in the world, but I would look at getting a little bit of it knocked on the head because it will reduce your borrowing power.

    Is the 30k for the tax man?

    Set up some structures (please see good accountant who can talk you through everything) to protect your IP when you buy. Make sure you have minimized your tax etc, etc. Get some advice from a good mortgage broker (plenty on here). Get chatting to a solicitor about making sure you have a will, get life insurance. This is the basic common sense stuff.

    Read and LEARN everything you can about property investing, buy some magazines, some books, hang out here.

    You can buy something that has subdivision potential and really do nothing with it if you want. You may want to sit on the block (as long as it has a house to give you an income) for a couple years so that you can learn more about developing.

    Start doing something now as you will never regret it, and in the majority of cases information is cheap, mistakes are costly!

    Good luck let us know how you get on!

    D

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    Kim,

    Thanks for you calculations. These calculations hold true if we both are working to the retirement age or i happen to earn $200 k and my wife stops working after that. I guess with increasing family commitment, the numbers you have crunched may not be realistic unless i am missing something. Nevertheless it does prove the point of extra money in super goes a long way to your retirement.

    kum yin lau wrote:

    Hi losty, your case made me really look at the numbers.

    It's so simple it's almost idiotproof.

    $9000 p.a. = $750 p.m. x 2 = $1500 p.m.

    Accrued         interest          tax saved
    $1500            $6.25              $31.25

    $3006.25       $12.53           $31.25

    At the end of 15 years, the total accumulated is $744430.50

    That doesn't include the tax savings.

    Essentially, by each partner paying $130 – $150 per week into an smsf & not doing anything more except ensure it's in a high interest [daily rest internet acct will do it], by the time you're 50, you'll both have close to a million in cash.

    Is that so difficult if you're earning $100K each?

    KY

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    Kum,

    Thanks for your inputs and calculations.

    If i understand it correctly, your calculation demonstrate putting money can save tax.

    I dont fully understand your calculations ( i am sure they are simple to understand, but i lack basic knowledge). I will review them  and try to make sense.

    In the mean time i hope to see some healthy debate on this issue.

    Thanks,

    Losty

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    Danviv1,

    Once again a very valid point …!! That's why i am on this forum to learn where we stand and where to head in coming months. Thanks again for your valued input.

    Thanks,

    Losty

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    Hmm….thanks for the feedback guys….something which we must do now…will look into it …

    Is using a financial adviser is a good idea to plan our budget/ sort out loans n stuff? If so, can anyone recommend a decent financial planner in perth.

    Thanks,

    Losty

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    JacM,

    Thanks for your kind reply. See my answers below.

    JacM wrote:
    Hi!

    Firstly about this personal loan for the car.  What is the interest rate on that compared to the homeloan interest rate?  In other words, would it be better to pull money out of the homeloan offset account, or redraw on the homeloan, to pay out the car?  If this is possible and the rate on the homeloan is cheaper, and there are not big penalties for paying out the car early, maybe look into this to save yourself some money. –Yes the car loan interest rate is higher than home loan. But we own two cars with remaining amount of $45000 on them.

    Something else worth looking into if your household salary is high is: is it better to own the car, or is it actually cheaper to lease it on a salary-sacrifice arrangement, thereby saving on income tax? – I looked into it and got our accountant to advice. It doesn't save that much currently to go on salary sacrifice. His advice was to put more into your super to save tax than salary sacrificing the car. Another option is to have an IP. If it's a negative cash flow property, tax can offset some of it.

    Personally, I would address these two questions first.  I personally would probably look at knocking the personal debt on the head first, and maybe reducing the homeloan a bit more before getting another property.  Others would do differently. – Good idea, but needs to work out how.

    It is by no means "too late" for you.  You are very young with a lot of income-earning years ahead of you. – Thanks for the encouragement.

    Have you looked at your finances to work out how much "spare cash" there is each month after paying your mortgage and car loan and living expenses?  In other words, is there enough "spare cash" to take on mortgage repayments of an IP? – We have $30000 cash in savings. which sits in the offset account of our home loan.

    Do you have a spare wad of cash to use as the deposit of the IP?  You might find it tricky to use the existing property as security for the IP, because your Loan-to-value ratio of your home is still at 87%. – We do have spare cash at hand and like to use it on IP than buying things which we dont need.

    If you can  give us some extra info on your situation with the answers to the above questions, the knowledgeable folk that frequent this forum might be able to give you some more sturdy suggestions :-)

    Hope to hear back from you and others soon.

    Thanks,

    Losty

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