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I have to say, in this case, I am with Nigel. It seems these blokes have been selling in the slums – as for it being a "beat up" how much worse can it be than not being able to feed a family because you trusted these "profesionals" to put you into a good investment and then you find out you have been scammed big time.
These Johnson dudes are most probably liable legally – after all they charged fees for profesional service. Fancy paying someone to find you a dud deal – OUCH!
Theyd better hope they've got some profesional indemnity coverage.
As for why Westan has not been on this forum for a while thats got to be obvious!
Leo
Here's another side to the bloke. Not sure what to make of it.
It's not just Jenman who's anti these schemes, get a look at what the Barefoot Investor, Scott Pape, said in his column on the weekend. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22223202-664,00.html
After a long investigation by the Consumer Legal Center they have recomended that wrapping is banned.
I rememeber how Jenman got bagged when he knocked Henry Kaye. Now he gets bagged for knocking Steve but considering that Steve has allowed a post on this site hoping Jenman gets cancer – or some such remark, I dont think you can claim to be the white knights (excuse the pun) by a long shot.
I dont agree with all that Jenman says but I sure don't doubt his sincerity.
Leo
It depends who’s guaranteeing it. At that rate, it’s likely to be one of those meaningless worthless guarantees.
LEO
It’s a dead duck. So much for all the big bravo chest thumping that went with setting it up just a couple of years or so ago.
Time is the real test of the worth of anything and anyone.
Sad but true
Leo
Has anybody here done as well with property investing as Jenman has done with these VC’s?
According to the paper he paid $105,000 for one and then bought another for $185,000 – and today they are selling for more than a milllion each. Wouldn’t mind a bit of that mself!!!
Although he went and blew it by giving one (or both, not sure, it wasn’t clear) away. He’s gotta be nuts! So I vote idiot!!
And, how come the story has only come out now? Its been about seven years.
This link will take you to the UK scammer that has been targeting Ozzies.
This is how NOT to get involved in land banking. I reckon the best advice right now is to listen to what Mr Yardney says.
Cheers
Leo
From what you say, it sounds like they should be avoided completely. There is no excuse for abuse and the most common reason for it in situations like this is because someone has been caught out and that’s what makes them angry.
Anger equals scammer in my mind.
Thanks for having the guts to post your message with your real name. (Well, I assume it is! [biggrin])
Leo
The ABC Media Watch program is the WATCHDOG of what goes on in the media!!! If it really did do what you claim hundreds of other journalists would want to know about it. It would be a big story – not to mention the press council.
This does NOT seem as if you have “set the record straight”; it reads as if you got caught out.
It’s hard to believe that Channel 7 and the ABC and the mentorees and Jenman could all be wrong and you be the only one right.
Sorry, I really wanted to believe you, but your explanation doesnt stack up.
Leo
Hi Del
Let me see if I get what your saying – The ABC report was all lies – which means the mentorees must have become milionaires but lied to the ABC.
But you lashed out at the mentorees for being lazy.
Lazy mentorees with the ABC program that exposes lies being the real one telling the lies.
I get it.
Leo
Yes, Del, thats one opinion. There are other opinions though that he was lucky to escape prosecution in the same way as that other milionaire maker (Henry Kay) got charged.
Heres one explanation – called ‘Milionaire Make Believe’ which is hard to argue with…
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1081543.htm
Leo
Hi C@34. No reply from Jenman, eh? Looks like you sure managed to shut him up about w raps.
Leo
Richard
You have NOT given one word of reply to my question about why you use Jenman’s parent to criticise him.
Please tell me how Jenman has done sometghing wrong because of something a parent may have done when you bought from the parent 8 years ago.
Thanks
Leo
Hi Terry, This is a postive article; he says its good news for buyers which looks true – not sure that st eve would say a buyer not paying is an opportunity. Surely not? Id challenge him on that if i was ste ve.
And, Richard, you bought units from his parent and the parent did the wrong thing? This makes Neil Jeman bad??!! Surely, we can find something on him worse than what his parent did 8 years ago.
Come on lets get the anonymous posts going again because this latest article of his could do lots of harm to you and all the other rappers.
Off to work now. Gotta loan to pay.
Leo
And a bank loan to!
Why don’t u ask him yourself?
Amazing how, as ive said before, its so easy to goss and gassbag here and yet so few have the character to ask the person being gossed about.
Would you like someone else to send a message to Jenmen for you???
Hey, Neil, who do you like?
Surely that’s not so hard. But i guess its easier to just to put a post on a forum with an anonymous name.
Tut,
Leo
I heard this guy was on TV recently. Aparently a reporter did a big expose on him. Anyone see it? If so, what happened?
Cheers
Leo
http://www.investdrinks.org/landplotters.htm
This has some great info. Check the success (NOT!) rate of ELS. As they say: Cor, Blimey!
How strange that Hans would use Ed Chan to try to make Hans look good. Hans is much more credible than Chan imho.
Leo
Hi Rob
Your comment, “Richard, you can never be sued successfully by anyone for telling the truth or simply stating facts.” is NOT true, mate. Not even close.
Basic Law 101 teaches that it not enough to just state the truth; many huge payouts have been made against truth tellers. It has to be “in the public interest” as well as true – and even then there’s still no certainty that you’d win a big litigation case.
All this said, I s’pose those who use a code name can have some fun in places like this. In the end it’s S teve whod get busted. Some of the posts are great fun but I wonder if S teve’s wife knows their family home is at risk.
All this aside, I agree with Richard that the investors club is crooked and your a good bloke Rob.
Cheers
Leo
Hey Dr X
I think Jenman is sure getting under yourskin.
It makes me larf to see the way some of the people on this forum try to find fault with Jenman. “He’s making money from controvesy. He’s making money from franchise. Oops, he doesn’t have a franchise. He must charge investors. But how? Maybe its from his boo ks.”
So, how does he make his money? It’s all about money, money, money. Yes it’s got to be about money because that’s how we think here – right Dr X???
I agree with Kay, Jenman is hilariously funny, but not nearly as funny as watching some of you climb the walls or tear your hair out over him.
Ha!
Leo
