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    I really agree with StumpCam.  Make those extra dollars count and pay off that principle.  I've popped back onto the forums to test the general sentiment about property investment (and seems quite positive) to see if I should get another property, rip down the current one and build house/duplex/units or go into shares.  I wanted to know if the people chanting Australian property collapse is likely and if I would lose my equity.  If the worst did happen, at least I wouldn't be left owing the bank lots of money like those high and dry with interest only. But looks like that is not going to happen.

    My wife and I get paid directly into the offset account.  Each $1000 in that offset reduces the interest payment by approx. $0.20 per day.  That is $0.20 per $1000 per day being paid off on the principle.  Doesn't sound like much but we are up to $12 per day after 1.5 years.  More is paying off the principle that way than the P portion of P&I.  There's the motivation.

    I've been wanting that large TV for the last 4 years but can't quite bring myself to spend $4K when that's almost a $1 per day I would be missing out on.  It's quite sad, I think of everything that way now :s

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    If the offset comes with no monthly fees, I'd be going for it. 

    If you make extra repayments and then turn the property into an investment, you will be unable to get the extra payments out of the property without experiencing the wrath of the ATO.  While it is an investment, you want the interest payments to be as high as possible (for a given loan) so you can claim tax. 

    Having an offset will temporarily lower the daily interest you are paying while the property is not an investment.  As soon as you turn it into an investment, you can withdrawal the cash to increase the interest (and decrease your tax liability) and it causes zero problems.  The offset account is the same as earning the amount of bank interest; tax free. 

    I made the mistake when I first started of putting in 40% deposit when I bought my first house.  I should have had the deposit of 20% and put the rest into an offset account.  Now that the property is an investment, I can't get my cash out without incurring tax.  You live, you learn.

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    marg4109 is the most correct here.  Just one minor alteration, instead of 365 days per year, use 365.25.  Account for that leap year.  The banks don't miss this trick, neither should you.

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    I just got the floor here polished about 4 weeks ago.  I paid $25 per square metre.  There was a horrible glue that needed major sanding to remove.  All sanded, and three coats of a low gloss mono for $1700.

    Also, factor in the cost of staying in a hotel or elsewhere.  You cannot stay in the place for about 3 days.

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    Keep looking around. My partner and I just purchased 299K at macgregor – 3bed house, very liveable (first investment). We were actively looking for around 8mths – saw a lot of houses, units, land, etc. Prior to this time and during we had cash invested (as well as reinvesting) in management funds … earning about 20% plus capital growth – ended up with 110K. Not sure whether it is a squeeze but there are a few cheap properties popping up at the moment.

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