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    Hi Jesse,

    Personally I like real estate to invest in, and positive real estate as I don't plan to sell, the capital growth (the price it cost to buy) 

    is not the most important thing.

    My advice is

    decide if you and your partner are going to live in the first house, if you do for 6mths you will be granted the

    first home buyers grant which could help with your deposit not sure where it sits but either way a few free K is better than nothing

    now set your goals realistically, you can't buy mansions straight away (unless you are completely loaded) and be positive geared

    positive geared is where a property Makes you some money to work out if a property is positive geared you need to know 

    rent value, landlord insurance cost, mortgage repayments, the cost of rates, agent fees of you aren't self managing, and budget a bit of money in for repairs

    or un tenanted weeks.

    i personal get the year worth of bills divide by 52 there's the cost weekly than I take 45 weeks of  rent and dived by 52 there's your income

    i use 45 weeks incase I have no tenants in the house for a few weeks.

    now the fun part finding a house ,  google is very helpful, you can search the statistics for the areas you are looking at (what percentage rents,

    works, widowed etc) 

    find an area you think would be great for renting out remember it needs to be closish to work. Normally an hour or two away from the city is best bet

    found that gem? But it won't be positive geared? Don't worry go look at it anyway take a note pad and night light, check the power points work, no leaks you can see

    find the faults and lowball the real estate with an offer that will make the property worth your time. And don't be scared to walk away.

    take into account settling fees, legal fees ect when you buy a house  ask your accountant for a list :-)

    talk to the agents in the area but before hand stop at the local shops and talk to them while you are going through checkout

    , ask them about the local gossip and what not

    questions questions and more questions is  the best thing you can do in an area you don't know

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    our rental is down the south coast of NSW, its a pain trying to find positive return rentals now as we seemed to have had a bit of a boom sad when i say boom i mean some of the housing commission areas have over doubled in price, as a local i know these prices are not worth it but it seems a lot of investors don't… or out of town first home buyers… (so much for Australians having financial difficulties) either way it has pushed our market way over…

    anyway if i can work out how to put photos up ill put some before and after photos to show how little we did but how much it improved the house

    as for self tiling from what I've seen and been told, don't attempt it if you have bad knees and back.. also remember to prep properly cause if you don't the tiles will probably fall off. 

    my partners uncle had a professional tiler (a mate of his) come in and tile for mates rates, in his kitchen got those nice clear glass ones along the wall… yeah,  3 weeks later *smash* about half of them fell off and cause it was off the books work the company didn't cover it through insurance so my uncle inlaw had to use his house insurance or fork out more money himself to repair it

    some times its better off to pay that extra if you can afford it, and know the company who do the job will be at blame if something goes wrong than risk it yourself, though ive never self tiled so i cant say if this is good advice or not lol

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    the only pro i could see with this is if you added an extra bathroom and turned the two door into an ensuite blocking the door not connecting it to the bedroom.

    but thats a lot of work just for a rental.

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    i think cladding old fibros is a great value adder, personal taste as it gives it a new life feel, i have a house ive been thinking of cladding for a while but i dont know a trusted "cladder?"

    i read an old reno book from about 2 years ago which claims cladding can increase the value by up to 30K im not sure if this is true but would like to know

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    Hi dreamingbig,

    we currently did minor reno to an ex housing commission house in a housing commission area, we plan to do more but due to advice from our accountant all work is done after tenants have begun leasing the house (other wise it isn't tax deductible)

    to begin with we put tenants in on the 1st and arranged with them for a painter to enter the day after,

    we also spoke with the evaluator and asked about flooring, the floor doesnt really change the value of the house dramatically you will basically get what you paid for back if your lucky, the best thing with flooring to do is choose a low maintenance floor  like tiles they cost more but  you never have to polish them and as someone above said if water leaks they wont swell and damage as easy.. plus they look nice if you ever want to sell, wooden and carpet floors can get stains and scratches all over them causing future buyers to shy away a bit

    as for the kitchen, we got the painter to repaint all the doors and clean up the handles, we plan to replace the kitchen soon but just dont want to blow over budget..

    to be honest we

    painted the house,

    repaired the fan in the bathroom (its lid kept falling off)

    cleaned the carpets (suprising they were in good condition but stunk)

    painted the kitchen face

    and installed a solar hot water system which was the most costly (coming to around $4,300 after rebates)

    placed about $50 of pretty flowers in the yard…

    total cost was approx 6K but the real estate said if the work was done before we signed on tenants we could have asked for an extra 30 a week and would have got it (not that we care the rent is already positive return), and the evaluator has increased its valuation by 25K

    we still plan on putting in a new kitchen and bathroom not for extra value but more for the ease of renting it out and maintaining the condition

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    hey Qlds007 thanks for your advice, would you recommend a company or professional i should look at talking with?

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    Hey N@than, its on the contract of sale, you agree that you will live in the house till the 7 years are up, but if the house goes on sale before the time frame is up than the new buyer must live in the house for a fresh 7 years. (some times they do it for 5 years and i have heard of them with 10 year obligations also)

    housing commission have been doing it in areas they wish to mix the classes of people better for example about 2 years a go they sold up 30% of the houses around east nowra with this clases on the contract the houses sold for 50-90k renovated (fresh paint, new kitchens and bathrooms fully fenced yards)

    we looked at a few houses back when they were for sale but the issue was not only the amount of time you had to live there and the fact that if you sold it you are obligated to restart that time frame for the new buyers, but the areas they normally do it in are really low return along with high abuse

    some of the houses clearly had squatters in them and a few we even seen used needles and drugs laying around the yards

    but the logic behind it is they will get home owners in rather than investors, as the home owners will "hopefully" raise the quality of the area and bring more jobs to the area

    in all honesty in the areas we have seen these conditions of contract, i personally wouldn't take up the offers unless i was childless, 7 years obligation of living there with your family is not something i want.

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    hey Weathjess, just wondering if you spoke with a particular group or person about your SMSF? if so do you mind if i know who?and forgive me but what is a US passive fund?

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    Hey Terryw, to be honest i have no idea who i should talk to about this, the banks seem to advertise the SMSF a lot so i assumed they might know what it involves…. seems not many of them do… we are thinking of talking with an accountant now as they might have more advice than the banks.

    do you Self manage your super and if so who did you talk with?

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    Oh we don't want to live in any of the smsf ips we currently have our family home and a few ip we are paying off with our wages/rental return.

    the issue is we are sick of losing our Super because we can't invest it exactly how we want, plus we pay a fee to loss it not to meantion the money is sitting there and we are aiming one way or another to have a few ip under our belt for retirement why not use it if we can

    but every one of the big banks I've spoken too have said no go without having 80k when I asked about multiple members one of them said "quote"  I'm not sure how it works with multiple members ….. Will be back at work next week I can book you in to talk to them if you want" that was westpac and the lady I was speaking too claimed when we first started talking she was the one who dealt with SMSF, the other banks didn't seem to have much input after they found out we only have 20-30k they meantioned about adding more to it but why would I want to do that with such a high risk of losing it while its currently managed by someone else??

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    this posted more than once (sorry) not sure how to delete the others

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    not to mention that it may have how many years you have to live there written into the comtract like the ex housing commission houses do in NSW (some times)

    they also may make it obligation to employee local builders

    so on the contract of sale you might have — minimum time of occupancy 7 years…

     must build through the following companies – ***** **** or ***** ****

    and if its like the HC houses in NSW with a minimum time of occupancy on there each time it sells before the time limit is up it has to restart (for example you live there 2 out of the 7 years and decided to sell, the buyer will have to sign a 7 year occupancy obligation) which would imply they arent a good resale home

    as you would assume the local builders would charge more for building a home than your mate down the road

    your house would depreciate in value while you live there

    the occupancy obligation would be off putting for investors so locals or those who want to move there would be your only possible buyers and most of them would know the land sold for $1 so they wouldn't want to pay much more (if they are smart…)

    than again it might not work like this lol

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    we have a friend in the real estate Biz and when ever we see a place we might like we ask him to find out if they are willing to sell, but we have found if they dont have it on the market and you ask they normally try and be greedy and ask for more than its worth :-(

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