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    Do people think that in this environment of rising interest rates and a more cometitive rental market, that 1 year leases are more and more common? I remember when 6-month leases were de rigeur, but I am certainly seeking one year leases these days- at least then, I can budget/plan for 12 months.

    Are other people pushing for 1-year leases too? Do you prefer 1 or 2 year leases? Would 2 year leases bother you because you cannot do a rental review after 1 year?

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    Desk Top- no job and no savings? You could sell your current IP and buy some cheaper ones with a bigger rental yield. Given that you’re living at home, presumably your outlays are minimal right now. As you’re not working, serviceability might (probably will) become an issue, if you don’t sell up the current IP and resease some cash.

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    wrappack said:

    ii) 100% vendor finance. If the vendor will lend you the money, you may not need a deposit
    iii) 30% vendor finance. Bank lends 70%, vendor 30

    Those are really good ideas, wrappack. But re getting vendor finance… presumably that would be suitable for those with no equity (who could use one of the other options), but my question to all is: isn’t it better to either have equity or a deposit? If a bank won’t lend you enough money, then isn’t that some indication that you are in over your head?

    What do people think?

    Also, re vendor finance, does it appear on your credit rating? And are the people providing the VF able to check your credit history? Wouldn’t this be ruled out by the privacy act?

    Another way to do the no money down thing is to go into a joint vewnture- think of the second person you’re in with as providing the deposit for you.

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    Simon (or anyone who can answer),

    Is the point of an IO loan that one can buy many more IP’s at the same time? Are the repayments less on an IO loan? If so, how much less are they, say on a $500 week loan?

    What happens when you have paid out the IO loan? Do you then have to pay a lump sum to pay out the principle? And how do people do that? Do they simply have to sell the IP to make the repayments? And if this is so, would this type of loan not be for people who wish to buy and hold for a longer perdio (like forever)?

    I’m aware that IO loans are really only for properties that might have substantial CG. I’m just wondering if people might let me know how they might suit the smaller investor who wishes to build the portfolio.

    Thanks!!

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    Thanks Admin- you rock!! Sorry for killing your fanfare though

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    It’s a great thing you’ve done Admin- chills the Forum right out :))

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    Yeah, you godda be quick sis- hehe.

    [whip]

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    sis,

    I don’t think IR rises are good for *anyone* who is investing in RE. Whilst it might make some people jump from their investment (those who have gotten in over their heads), even if you buy their properties, you are still paying higher IR’s on that mortgage. And we can’t just increase rents merely due to an IR increase- because the IR’s may go down against next month.

    IR’s generally remain stable though, sis- not up and down like a yoyo. Economic conditions are longer-term than that. the only real reason IR’s went up in their first movement recently was because people were spending more than was good for them :o)

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    James,

    Banks in sydney have also been loaning 80% LVR on apartments in sydney inncer-city too. I think it’s been thr highly developed areas- glebe, ultimo, Green Park etc etc. Those areas <10km’s from the city. But those areas have also done very well in terms of maintaining values.

    I think banks just wanted to slow down on the big spending. It was similar to them acting as their their own Reserve Bank- but instrad of raising interest rates, they just tightened lending criteria.

    Presumably, it’s the same situation in brisbane too in the heavily supplied inner-brisbane/gold coast areas.

    I haven;t seen reports of properties in Docklands at 100-200k below original valuation. I’ll have to look it up. Got a reference for it, James?

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    dreamer,

    Given that IR’s can go up every month [:(!] then I think it would be a good idea to factor in at least a few percentage points. Particularly if you’re looking at a 5-year budget.

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    georgis :)

    Wouldn’t that be a bit premature of banks to do a margin call? Is that actually legal for a bank to do anyway?

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    Well, a 1% interest raterise on a $1 million loan would be… ummm…. an extra $10k a year, or $200 bucks a week.

    Whilst we might not be *overly* concerned about interest rates, there would be few smaller IP investors who would be able to pay IR’s of ten years ago.

    I don’t think this means “crash” though. I think it means some people will lose everything, some people will lose out a little, and some people will make huge capital gains- in *whatever* market.

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    Originally posted by secretgnome:

    Also another thing to think about is you’d expect maintenance on 50k properties to be a lot smaller than that on a 200k property, so at least you’re not hit with a big bill all at once [:0].

    secretgnome,

    I have to disagree here. Newer properties (more exxy, negative geared ones) do not require the same level of structural maintenance as older properties. Let’s look at a 5 year old house or a 70 year old house. The latter *may* need restumping, rewiring, etc etc. Of course, not all old houses are in poor condition, but try finding a 50k house these days (mid/post boom) that doesn’t need substantial work.

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    fifi,

    I type into google.com.au “population decline NSW” or whatever… then all the studies will come up- including ABS info about which areas are in population decline.

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    See, my problem is…

    REIV says: REIV News

    12 month house market wrap
    The Age – 28 February 2004

    Melbourne’s residential property market maintained its upward trend with a median house price of $363,000 being recorded for 2003. This represents growth of 11.8 per cent growth since 2002 and a staggering 81.8 per cent growth since 1998.

    … whereas the above link on this post states:

    Median house prices in Brisbane have increased by 300 per cent since 1986 and around the country by 329 per cent.

    i have real difficulty with such differing statistics. I know one is ’96 and the other is ’98, but prices were flat from 96-98 anyway, so it makes buggerall difference.

    What gives folks? Can we believe Residex, CommSec, the REI’s? What about Matusik? homeprice.com.au? The ValuerGeneral?

    By the way, I thought the link was agood article 111111, but I have just read so many differing perspectives, it’s hard to be definitive.

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    Yes, and don’t we all live by a deficit? (as in owing money). Our micro level of living is no different in theory to a Government’s. Basically, if a govt has a deficit based upon good investments, then it is making the country money.

    There is nothing wrong with a deficit. budgets are all political – depends on what money is spent on.

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    You can buy the Nothing Down book on ebay.com.au

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    sis, where are you? Are we all gonna meet up and see Mel this weekend??

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    Thanks Shushar!

    Must be hard being a RE agent. given that even valuers get it wrong at times (look at some of the shonky inhouse valuations done on some apartments), it means RE’s now have to be valuers too! Think i’ll stick to my job :)

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    canneram :o)

    Out of little things, big things grow :) Perhaps if you make a bit of cash out of shares, you can buy RE again??

    Best of luk with it- I think we all love RE on this forum [:)]

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    Heya sis :o)

    How does your partner service $3 mill of debt? Rents mostly, or a well-paid job? equity doesn’t mean anything if you can’t pay debts.

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